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Post by barbarama on Feb 24, 2015 3:51:17 GMT
alright I may add an irony smiley then , but the fact that I say it saddens me isn't enough?
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 3:55:07 GMT
How sad that it's come to this after we all (except snacky) looked forward to the wedding. haha, this makes me sound like such a curmudgeon! But it was only because I didn't trust trhe writers *or* the audience to survive post-wedding long. :/
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 4:00:48 GMT
alright I may add an irony smiley then , but the fact that I say it saddens me isn't enough? I'd just go ahead and post your comment. I think it expresses what we all feel - there was no "romance within marriage". I do believe part of the problem was letting Helene go to film Heartland, though. The writers should have doubled down on the honeymoon period, and they will never get another shot at that. Unless they want to write some webisodes to fill in that period. Hmmm...
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Post by Hodge on Feb 24, 2015 4:00:53 GMT
How sad that it's come to this after we all (except snacky) looked forward to the wedding. haha, this makes me sound like such a curmudgeon! But it was only because I didn't trust trhe writers *or* the audience to survive post-wedding long. :/ I have to admit that I was dubious about the wedding though I didn't see how they could come up with believable ways to keep them apart any more.
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Post by Hodge on Feb 24, 2015 4:07:13 GMT
Well, I cared for it about as much as I was expecting to...which is to say not very much. ...but I always seem to find these faith episodes to be rather dull. Dang, I hate to see my gut feeling about faith eps confirmed - especially when I just spotted a brilliant deployment of William's Catholicism this weekend in Crime & Punishment. Will be 4 hrs before I can watch the ep so pls spoil away! lol @ barb regarding Julia and William being better off if they had lived in sin. I bet PM could handle romance better if he stopped referring to them as Murdoch and Ogden! I watched C&P last night but can't think of the scene you're referencing.
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 4:57:52 GMT
@hodge - the scene where William delivers the burn to Giles by grumbling people should say he's out to pray because that's all Giles thinks Catholics do!
That's the way to introduce faith in drama - as a direct source of conflict.
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Post by Hodge on Feb 24, 2015 5:03:40 GMT
@hodge - the scene where William delivers the burn to Giles by grumbling people should say he's out to pray because that's all Giles thinks Catholics do! That's the way to introduce faith in drama - as a direct source of conflict. Of course! I'd forgotten about that.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 24, 2015 5:09:45 GMT
Well even though I liked seeing George & Edna because they are super cute I'm not holding my breath for the passion being brought in storyline between William & Julia, yes it was good that she served as a sounding board for William in this episode but for crying out loud they have been married less than 6 months and they look like they've been together for 15 years already!!!! I do not want MM to become a romance but the same amount of tender scenes we had in season 7 would have been appreciated. I don't know if that is how Peter Mitchell perceives romance between a married couple but if that's the case William & Julia should have lived together in sin Clearly it is how he perceives romance in a marriage. That's why he's divorced.
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 5:21:56 GMT
Regarding where William developed his rigid approach to law - IMHO, this doesn't need explaining. It's a general male tendency - indeed any in public life to pride in upholding abstract "reason", "science", "statistics", "law", and the "impersonal" over the messy realities of the private, the local, the personal. MM has only drawn attention to how Victorian Morality magnified all these tendencies as men sought out modern bureaucratic careers. When women sought such "public" careers, they received the same training vi academia and business practices, and they adopted the same persona. ( though numerous articles have been written on how women "feel like a fraud" when they take on this professional persona).
Anyway, the far more interesting story for me is how William transcends the urge toward dehumanized abstraction of justice. I like to think of this as a hidden arc of MM that enables William to become more of a whole person than many of his male colleagues. I particularly like how this happens at the birth of psychotherapy and the discovery of the "unconscious" (including Jung's anima symbolism). Not that I want to see William become "feminized", but I do think one of his most engaging qualities is his alternative to American "macho" manhood. William starts as an"everyman" and seems on a quest to become more integrated and humane.
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 5:28:49 GMT
Happily at no point did Yannick Bisson and Peter Outerbridge cancel each other out. - Tanya Lemke
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 5:39:47 GMT
would also lift William's burden about his drunk of a father. Perhaps he fantasized the priest was his real father Um, I think we're going off on a tangent....again. This is a moot point now that the episode aired, but how would speculating on the issue with Father Keegan be a "tangent"?
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 5:52:01 GMT
William & Julia should have lived together in sin Clearly it is how he perceives romance in a marriage. That's why he's divorced. Hot romance tip: call your lady love by her first name!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 24, 2015 6:12:54 GMT
Clearly it is how he perceives romance in a marriage. That's why he's divorced. Hot romance tip: call your lady love by her first name! They rarely do in Castle which was always kinda strange and even more so now that they are married...but at least Marlowe is adding some shippiness in most episodes!
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Post by Hodge on Feb 24, 2015 6:21:39 GMT
Clearly it is how he perceives romance in a marriage. That's why he's divorced. Hot romance tip: call your lady love by her first name! PM seriously misjudged the audience this season. I can see trying to keep them apart to increase tension but they're not actually apart and there's no tension, no angst, just frustration. There are only 3 eps left, I hope there's some romance in the remaining ones.
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Post by snacky on Feb 24, 2015 7:52:40 GMT
Hot romance tip: call your lady love by her first name! PM seriously misjudged the audience this season. I can see trying to keep them apart to increase tension but they're not actually apart and there's no tension, no angst, just frustration. There are only 3 eps left, I hope there's some romance in the remaining ones. It might have actually worked if the "apartness" had been explained in some way. Given how new the concept of the "professional" woman was, and how William is probably secretly chomping at the bit for that adopted son, that could have seriously created some tension. The one accidental move in that direction - where Julia abandoned William for dinner with Dr. Bajjali, was quite effective in that regard - without Julia even being present!!!
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