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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 23, 2012 19:00:04 GMT
One thing I did find funny was how at the end while William/Julia are passionately kissing in the middle of the ball, and Brackenreid, George and Emily stood around them but didn't give them a glance. As far as all them are concerned Julia is a married woman so it's hardly normal for her to be sucking face with Murdoch in public lol. I guess because they all thought they were meant to be together, and Emily kind of said early in the series she didn't think the marriage would last, they just didn't care and were more interested in the fireworks. yes, this was hilarious! first she shows up in a fairly scandalous dress (at least for her), then they start making out in front of everyone and they just ignored them like it was the most normal thing in the world! xD BUT All I can say about this ep is YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! ;D and also, like others have already said, so glad Brackenreid isn't leaving and that the time machine wasn't real! i was guessing drugs of some sort were at play but i was wondering how those questionnaires could be of use if drugs were involved. i guess i didn't think of hypnotism cuz i didn't want Roberts to be a baddie! i guess he's never gonna be on the show again, unless he gets successfully melted. but basically Julia is taking his role over so i can't see him coming back. and if she's gonna do psych profiles, i think they'll be spending even more time together than before!
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Post by catymurdoch on May 23, 2012 19:17:02 GMT
There surely were lots of kissing enough to fill out all those missing scenes from season 5. It's always very passionate when they are together unlike when she was with Darcy. I actually wonder how long she stayed with Darcy. Do u think they married like one year ago? because if it is the case then William didn't really have a girlfriend for that amount of time except perhaps Anna when she came back for a bit. Julia must have been really unhappy during all that time because she was unhappy from episode 1 to last night episode, really. Anyway, when I heard it was Chritmas and then New year's eve, I thought then that they will end up kissing because this is what u do on New year's eve and because of the new century, it was an even bigger moment, so William and Julia had to kiss on New year's eve. I wonder what William thought when he first saw Julia in her red dress entering the ball. Surely, he must have been puzzled about the fact she was turning up at the police ball and not be at a party with Darcy. I wonder what went through his head? The beginning of the scene when they started to talk was funny because Julia was trying to joke and then was making a speech about profiling with William until he stopped her to find out why she was really here. I don't think he could believe his ears when she told him she was not with Darcy anymore. U suddenly could see him more happy but he had to make sure and made her confirm it before he pulled her to him to kiss her without hesitating. Nothing will stop William now. He is gonna make sure he won't loose her again and I think Julia will do just that too, hang on to him and being very professional while working with him and very passionate while together in their own space. I can't wait to see season 6 now and do we actually know if Helen is available full time? I hope she is if she is supposed to profile with William. I can't wait to see their partnership at work but I am sure they will be great just like the first 3 seasons at the morgue. Julia was always professional when in the big room but when she was in her little office by the big room, she was more flirty so I expect to see that kind of scenes too. Obviously, it won't happen at the morgue now. I don't suppose she will have an office at station4 but will probably be at William's office lots and outside with him too. I would love to see very professional between the 2 of them and passionate and flirty when they finish work or in between if the time allows it.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 23, 2012 19:25:52 GMT
yeah, the amount they made out, made up for the crappy eps of this season and the whole forcing of the George and Emily relationship. ooh, yes, i'm looking forward to those flirty scenes again. i was quite hesitant to believe the ending had actually happened cuz there was a large possibility that it was simply in William's imagination. Hence, the kind of riske outfit she was wearing, saying everything he wanted to hear and everyone simply ignoring their make-out session. If it hadn't been for the scene with Darcy, i would have definitely thought it wasn't really happening. however, i still couldn't breath easily until the credits started rolling and even then i wasn't entirely sure whether to believe that that had actually happened! xD
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Post by catymurdoch on May 23, 2012 19:30:29 GMT
One thing I did find funny was how at the end while William/Julia are passionately kissing in the middle of the ball, and Brackenreid, George and Emily stood around them but didn't give them a glance. As far as all them are concerned Julia is a married woman so it's hardly normal for her to be sucking face with Murdoch in public lol. I guess because they all thought they were meant to be together, and Emily kind of said early in the series she didn't think the marriage would last, they just didn't care and were more interested in the fireworks. yes, this was hilarious! first she shows up in a fairly scandalous dress (at least for her), then they start making out in front of everyone and they just ignored them like it was the most normal thing in the world! xD BUT All I can say about this ep is YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! ;D and also, like others have already said, so glad Brackenreid isn't leaving and that the time machine wasn't real! i was guessing drugs of some sort were at play but i was wondering how those questionnaires could be of use if drugs were involved. i guess i didn't think of hypnotism cuz i didn't want Roberts to be a baddie! i guess he's never gonna be on the show again, unless he gets successfully melted. but basically Julia is taking his role over so i can't see him coming back. and if she's gonna do psych profiles, i think they'll be spending even more time together than before! U know, to start with with I don't think Julia and William realised that everyone was gathering by the bay window to go outside and watchn the firworks. They were just in their little world and probably could not see anything else than themselves and even when they looked at the fireworks for a few seconds, and started making out again, they went back to their little world and I think the others knew that they were in their little worlds and didn't want to break their happy moment. it was funny though to see William and Julia kissing like that in public in front of so many people but at least , they have a good excuse. it was New year's eve and a new century after all.
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Post by murdochic on May 23, 2012 19:51:15 GMT
It almost broke my heart at how nervous Julia was to tell William she was single again. Her nervous babble and how she said she didn't expect anything from him and they could just work together, poor woman was scared he didn't want her anymore. I loved how William looked like he was almost crying when he heard Julia and Darcy had parted. And then he said she was his future. It was long overdue for him to let go of his inhibitions to finally show and tell Julia how he felt. It had always mostly been her having to do that in the past. Even people who hate them still must have been thinking 'about time they worked it out'. It's been in the making since 1893/94 (I can't remember which of those the pilot movies started in). This was years in the making and both characters are well into their 30's now. It's time to let them have a life together. Though I don't think it will be all plain sailing. They still have the marriage and child issues to work through, and I think the Ogden's may disown their daughter for the scandal her divorce will cause in their circles.
I have to say that Helene has been great all season showing her unhappiness with body language, hitches of the voice and looks regardless of what her character said to the contary. You've been in no doubt she was never happy with Darcy, her whole life had become a sham. She was only happy when she was around William. Darcy isn't a stupid man he obviously saw how withdrawn and unhappy she was everytime she had been around Murdoch. And she was never telling him when she had been, not until after the fact. That was obviously when he realised she didn't love him. I would have more sympathy for Darcy if he hadn't spent every scene in S5 he had, up until his last, trying to change her. Which is why I love W/J so much, because like I have said before they love eachother for who they are and not who they want eachother to be. Faults and all.
As S6 is on a new channel and it's a new century it is a very fitting time to take W/J to a new phase of their relationship. Them finally being a longterm couple and all that entails. It will make S6 different and interesting. Leave the angsty romance to G/E from now on. The baton has been passed to the new pathologist/copper combo. Julia will be the resident profiler, psychiatrist and doctor. With her being William's partner it also allows chances to fit her into episodes that might not need a profiler, she could also assist Emily in those. She is back to being a useful character which she spent much of this series not being once she quit the morgue.
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Post by catymurdoch on May 23, 2012 19:54:59 GMT
One thing I did find funny was how at the end while William/Julia are passionately kissing in the middle of the ball, and Brackenreid, George and Emily stood around them but didn't give them a glance. As far as all them are concerned Julia is a married woman so it's hardly normal for her to be sucking face with Murdoch in public lol. I guess because they all thought they were meant to be together, and Emily kind of said early in the series she didn't think the marriage would last, they just didn't care and were more interested in the fireworks. yes, this was hilarious! first she shows up in a fairly scandalous dress (at least for her), then they start making out in front of everyone and they just ignored them like it was the most normal thing in the world! xD BUT All I can say about this ep is YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! ;D and also, like others have already said, so glad Brackenreid isn't leaving and that the time machine wasn't real! i was guessing drugs of some sort were at play but i was wondering how those questionnaires could be of use if drugs were involved. i guess i didn't think of hypnotism cuz i didn't want Roberts to be a baddie! i guess he's never gonna be on the show again, unless he gets successfully melted. but basically Julia is taking his role over so i can't see him coming back. and if she's gonna do psych profiles, i think they'll be spending even more time together than before! I didnt' think that Julia could be taking Doctor Roberts's role but yes, looks like she is. Will be very interesting and a bit more fascinating for Julia. So, I suppose she gave up her clinic or may be hired someone to carry on the work up there and she will pop round to make sure everything is alright in between her profiling and kissing Murdoch .lol
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Post by catymurdoch on May 23, 2012 19:59:47 GMT
Well said , murdochic.
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Post by hannikan on May 24, 2012 3:09:05 GMT
I just got to see it know after doing another interview. I feel like I've been through the wringer. I liked the episode, of course, but I do have some mixed feelings about some stuff. Like what they did with Dr. Roberts' character. They must have needed to get rid of him in a hurry. Since Darcy told Julia to be with who she wanted to the same night as William and Julia kissing in public, there surely will be some fall out. They couldn't possibly have been divorced yet. I fear that Darcy will drag them through the mud in court. He sounded amicable about parting but that could easily change when the results are public. He will probably be resentful. But at least William and Julia will be together. And like murdochic mentioned they will have some challenges getting married once she is divorced due to William's religion. He doesn't necessarily need to convert but they couldn't get married in a Catholic church/by a priest. They'd have to get married in a Protestant church or by a justice of the peace. And then their marriage would not be recognized by the Catholic Church, which would cause William some pain. I liked how the time travel was handled afterall. I was worried but it was good. Except for turning Dr. Roberts into a sort of bad character. I'll have more comments after I watch it again.
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Post by shangas on May 24, 2012 8:56:39 GMT
I always expected that they would do an episode based on the dawn of the 1900s. This was a very good episode. A bit disjointed in places, but otherwise very enjoyable.
I liked the story with Dr. Roberts. That was very sad, but also touching at the same time. It was very interesting and moving.
Julia & Darcy...that's interesting, but difficult. As I explained in previous threads, no-fault divorce did not exist at the time. The only way they could legally get out of their marriage-vows is for either of them to commit adultery, or for Darcy to drop dead. The whole thing regarding religion is totally over my head, so I won't mention it.
I very much liked the whole thing with William and Julia. I think it was very touching and sweet. Hopefully there'll be an episode in the future where they get married and possibly have a child, or adopt one, if Julia really can't get pregnant.
The bit with Dr. Grace and George was interesting. I'm not sure if I like it as much as George & Ruby Ogden, though.
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Post by hannikan on May 25, 2012 3:22:50 GMT
Yeah, I'm not sure how to think it will work with the fact that there was no-fault divorce yet. I think Darcy will probably make accusations against Julia that she was either unfaithful or that she did not obey him when he asked her to put aside advocating birth control. I don't think it will turn out to be amicable even though it looked that way in the moment we've seen so far. Even though she she could never be accused of being unfaithful by our standards today, the fact that she kissed William in public before actually being divorced would probably be cause for Darcy to claim she was unfaithful then. He could also claim she never had any intention of committing to the marriage because he knew she'd always held feelings for William. In that argument, maybe they could get an annulment instead of a divorce. Then it would not be an issue with the Catholic Church because to have it annulled is to declare that the marriage was invalid.
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Post by murdochic on May 25, 2012 12:27:03 GMT
Just kill Darcy off and problem solved. I hope the writers do that.
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Post by lilmon on May 25, 2012 12:39:31 GMT
I liked the eppy very much but I don't want to repeat everything you have already said. I'm happy for William and Julia and it is good that William finally stood on his feet! Just one small remarque: unfortunately,the exact turn of the century is 1th January of 1901, not 1900. But this is usually a common misknowledge so I suppose that many people were expecting the turn at the night of 1th Jan. 1900. I'm looking forward to seeing S6! Have you seen this video so far? It's very funny! (William in the future...) video.citytv.com/video/detail/15477...0000/episode-1/lilmon
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Post by kaybee on May 28, 2012 2:31:33 GMT
It's taken awhile to get past my sheer enjoyment of this episode. First I really appreciate what the screenwriters did...not knowing if the show would get picked up by somebody else they gave us an episode to end the season that would have been an appropriate ending to the series- one which wouldn't create permanent angst.
I loved the fake time machine story because it allows you to see what William really would wish for in the futureand it enabled him to believe in a future with Julia.
I was disappointed that Dr. Roberts turned out to be less than a good guy but given his diagnosis and family history it was believable.
I am still stunned that Darcy gave up Julia so easily although I'm sure it was in part a matter of pride for him as well as a realization that their worlds really don't mesh well together. (Although how he could ever have thought they could is beyond me).
I can see lots of potential difficulties ahead for them(W/J) with divorce or annulment...religion...and just the basics of different financial situations.
Loved the final scene esp. how nervous Julia was about telling Wiliam that she and Darcy had parted. Also thought how very ironic how she had changed dresses from the serious matron dress she had for Darcy to the absolutely gorgeous and risque red dress she wore for William.
Finally I still can't understand those who say there's no chemistry between William and Julia...the screen sizzled with the two of them. I hope Helene Joy will be available for the whole series from now on. Even the episodes without her that I enjoyed (and there were some) were less enjoyable for me than those with her.
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Post by hannikan on May 28, 2012 5:12:49 GMT
Yes, that red dress! Wow!! Yes, that vulnerability in her telling him that she and Darcy had parted was great. And William's reaction. He was just stunned with happiness. I agree with you about their chemistry. I can't believe some people don't see it. But each to his/her own! There was a very short write up about filming in Brantford, ON that showed a photo of William and Julia sitting together. I don't think Darcy will give her up easily (although it looked that way in this episode). I don't mean romantically necessarily but that he will make it difficult for William and Julia because of what has happened. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes villainous in S6. After all, we didn't see it coming with Dr. Roberts...
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Post by Lucy on May 28, 2012 8:27:16 GMT
Perhaps Darcy meant for her to be with her friends rather than with Murdoch? Oh but she said they had separated... I don't know I hope they have but that could be interesting next season
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