|
Post by lovemondays on Nov 15, 2014 6:29:12 GMT
I cracked up when Emily drove away with Brax and Jackson and there was poor Henry saying "But it's MY car". As much as we complain about the mystery shortfalls in this ep, there was some great character development to go all the way around. Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery.
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Nov 15, 2014 6:30:55 GMT
As much as we complain about the mystery shortfalls in this ep, there was some great character development to go all the way around. I'm wondering what Slugger Jackson's 'old lady' would think of him buying a car with the bro's. I think everyone's forgotten that he was married when first introduced. Say what??? That never even hit my radar! What episode was that?
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Nov 15, 2014 6:32:29 GMT
As much as we complain about the mystery shortfalls in this ep, there was some great character development to go all the way around. Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery. But if you don't have 'characters' solving the mystery what's the point in watching? There are enough shows out there where the supposed characters are so uninteresting it's not worth the bother. They may as well wear bags over their heads and talk in monotone if they're not going to have some interesting quirks etc. Surely it's not just about the mystery but also the way the interesting characters solve the mystery.
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Nov 15, 2014 6:35:16 GMT
Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery. But if you don't have 'characters' solving the mystery what's the point in watching? There are enough shows out there where the supposed characters are so uninteresting it's not worth the bother. They may as well wear bags over their heads and talk in monotone if they're not going to have some interesting quirks etc. I agree with you. I was just saying that IMO, in the mystery fan camp, the plot comes first and character development second.
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 6:47:49 GMT
I am fed up to my back teeth with shipping . What direction would you be interested in? The suffragettes arc through the whole season. George and Henry seem to be on better footing. From the latest trailer it seems like George is pursuing a case that William has nothing to do with!?! I honestly don't know in which direction to go right now. All this shipping has gotten me dizzy . They should keep Emily the whacko scientist eager to stretch science to new boundaries. I want to see her work more closely with the Inspector and go places with him. They look great together and I think they will make the best couple in the show. I can see her driving the Inspector crazy whilst he figures out how to take care of this growing child who speaks a totally foreign language . If not, I'll take an ice bath and someone come get me when The Great Detective returns!
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Nov 15, 2014 6:48:11 GMT
But if you don't have 'characters' solving the mystery what's the point in watching? This.
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 6:49:46 GMT
You're grinding your teeth at the wrong enemy. There's no point at hating shippers: that's what other fans do, especially when they are invited to do it by canon evidence in the show like characters kissing and courting. The people to be ticked at are publicists who try to create shipping where none exists, who whip up shippers to the point of "fan entitlement syndrome", or who try to create factions and set them against each other. Those practices are pretty much doomed to backfire eventually. That said, I'm going to ignore my own pomposity and happily continue to ship . Now how did I know that the gnashing of teeth will not deter you ?
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 6:51:36 GMT
I lol'd so hard when George kicked the tires of the Bro Mobile even though that was probably as cliche as him losing the ring in HMM. Like Emily, George is gaining some character, too - besides just that of comic relief and William's wingman. A few people here have noticed that George is Rico Suave in that suit. I think Henry is actually the funniest here. And it's even funnier when you realize he didn't get to drive the thing the entire ep...must have been so ticked off after winning the station house pot. Poor Henry! He always gets the short end of the stick.
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 6:54:12 GMT
</div>I bet Henry will be the one who eventually learns to fix that car. He looks the geeky one in the trio.
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 6:57:34 GMT
It's looking more likely it would be this than Emily hanging out with a non-white although there was a bit of talk about a "foreigner" visiting MM at some point in the future. Lillian might be from somewhere exotic like New Zealand... That's foreign enough for me .
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Nov 15, 2014 7:09:22 GMT
</div>I bet Henry will be the one who eventually learns to fix that car. He looks the geeky one in the trio. He better - he also looks like first one to wreck the car!
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Nov 15, 2014 7:10:50 GMT
Poor Henry! He always gets the short end of the stick. Except when it comes to women. That Emily thing was an anomaly. Because Emily is a sapphist.
|
|
|
Post by ziggy on Nov 15, 2014 7:10:53 GMT
As much as we complain about the mystery shortfalls in this ep, there was some great character development to go all the way around. Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery. I agree that character development is important but not at the expense of the mystery in a "mystery show". This was the Manhattan ep and I said it was better written than the others before it this season. It was light in mystery but it was acceptable seeing that the honeymoon was going on and it was generally fun time. When you have 18 eps to do, it is good to throw in a couple of the light and humorous ones like this especially if you have really good mysteries with substance in the others. It can't always be serious and dark. But I doubt they have any interesting mysteries coming up this season.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Nov 15, 2014 7:12:10 GMT
Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery. I agree that character development is important but not at the expense of the mystery in a "mystery show". This was the Manhattan ep and I said it was better written than the others before it this season. It was light in mystery but it was acceptable seeing that the honeymoon was going on and it was generally fun time. When you have 18 eps to do, it is good to throw in a couple of the light and humorous ones like this especially if you have really good mysteries with substance in the others. It can't always be serious and dark. But I doubt they have any interesting mysteries coming up this season. What was your problem with the Waterfront eps?
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Nov 15, 2014 7:16:05 GMT
As much as we complain about the mystery shortfalls in this ep, there was some great character development to go all the way around. Completely agree here, but I doubt it's enough to satisfy the non-shippers. I think all 'sides' agree that character development is important but the non-shippers would add that it can't be at the expense of the mystery. And I think even the shippers here are agreeing that the shipper fan service of the "wedding/honeymoon" did come at the expense of the mystery. I think that should just be accepted as a fait accompli with good reason, though.
|
|