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Post by Hodge on Mar 9, 2015 16:57:58 GMT
I really do hate to say this once again snacky but how many of these events took place in CANADA let alone TORONTO? Whilst some of them may get a passing mention don't expect to see an episode devoted to them. If you want to speculate about what events may be brought up in MM look at CANADIAN history! Hey they could have done the train wreck - the honeymoon was in Manhattan!!! It's very hard to dig the Canadian history out of world timelines, and I'm not familiar with Canadian history at all. But if I post general events, there's always a chance it will trigger someone's memory of a connection. For instance, if I had included Sherlock Holmes stories (I left them out since Sherlock Holmes is already integrated into the show in various ways), that might have triggered someone's memory of an actual visit by Doyle. Same thing with my list of stage divas - they toured extensively! I'm sure some, if not all, of them hit Toronto! I read about 3 of them in a memoir of San Francisco. But online timelines just mention their country of origin. Canadians don't advertise their history very well. You have to look at specifically Canadian websites. Try .ca as a domain name. Also always put Canada in your searches. It's out there, just not obvious. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 9, 2015 16:59:30 GMT
Some of these were quite beautiful women. Too bad that wouldn't be true today. We seem to have a warped idea of beauty these days. Photography was just taking off as an art as well, which makes you realize what we've lost with camera phones and selfies. I hate camera phones, I always take my camera places I may want to take photos. I've only ever taken two selfies and that was because my daughter was in them with me. They were my first and last! |
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Post by snacky on Mar 9, 2015 17:03:14 GMT
Hey they could have done the train wreck - the honeymoon was in Manhattan!!! It's very hard to dig the Canadian history out of world timelines, and I'm not familiar with Canadian history at all. But if I post general events, there's always a chance it will trigger someone's memory of a connection. For instance, if I had included Sherlock Holmes stories (I left them out since Sherlock Holmes is already integrated into the show in various ways), that might have triggered someone's memory of an actual visit by Doyle. Same thing with my list of stage divas - they toured extensively! I'm sure some, if not all, of them hit Toronto! I read about 3 of them in a memoir of San Francisco. But online timelines just mention their country of origin. Canadians don't advertise their history very well. You have to look at specifically Canadian websites. Try .ca as a domain name. Also always put Canada in your searches. It's out there, just not obvious. Another annoying thing is that MM doesn't use the big history they have. I'm still grumpy that Canada's role in the Anglo-Japanese treaty didn't come up. That was a game-changer in world history and more or less determined sides for WWI and WWII. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 9, 2015 17:04:26 GMT
Hey they could have done the train wreck - the honeymoon was in Manhattan!!! It's very hard to dig the Canadian history out of world timelines, and I'm not familiar with Canadian history at all. But if I post general events, there's always a chance it will trigger someone's memory of a connection. For instance, if I had included Sherlock Holmes stories (I left them out since Sherlock Holmes is already integrated into the show in various ways), that might have triggered someone's memory of an actual visit by Doyle. Same thing with my list of stage divas - they toured extensively! I'm sure some, if not all, of them hit Toronto! I read about 3 of them in a memoir of San Francisco. But online timelines just mention their country of origin. Canadians don't advertise their history very well. You have to look at specifically Canadian websites. Try .ca as a domain name. Also always put Canada in your searches. It's out there, just not obvious. Well "narrative history" is in these days, and that entails a lot of drama. One of the cool things about Canadians is they aren't big drama queens.  |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 9, 2015 17:07:37 GMT
Canadians don't advertise their history very well. You have to look at specifically Canadian websites. Try .ca as a domain name. Also always put Canada in your searches. It's out there, just not obvious. Another annoying thing is that MM doesn't use the big history they have. I'm still grumpy that Canada's role in the Anglo-Japanese treaty didn't come up. That was a game-changer in world history and more or less determined sides for WWI and WWII. But could they come up with a suitable mystery/murder around it? It's got to lend itself to a story as well as just being Cdn. history. Would people be interested in a mystery around the Anglo-Japanese treaty? There again I'm not interested in vaudeville but I watched that ep and I'll be watching the wrestling one as well. I guess I've answered my own question. |
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Post by lizmc on Mar 9, 2015 21:26:26 GMT
Last summer I did a post with a timeline for 1902 to show all the events that MM could cover this season. With all the talk about Christmas, I realize that the season crosses into 1903! D'oh!  I still think it was a major fumble that MM didn't work with that famous Manhattan train wreck since it involved the change-over from steam to electricity, a big debate about the safety of mass transportation, the sensationalism of disaster and gruesome death in the Yellow Press and a major Trial by Media, and even an opportunity for William to get involved in the trial of a train engineer where the cards of Sentiment were stacked against the cold hard facts of Science. Writer dudes - how could you not squeeze every last historical drop out of this!!!  Welllll, anyway. For the good of our future speculation, here is a starter 1903 Timeline from Wikipedia. Feel free to add interesting dates from other comments in the sources. I really do hate to say this once again snacky but how many of these events took place in CANADA let alone TORONTO? Whilst some of them may get a passing mention don't expect to see an episode devoted to them. If you want to speculate about what events may be brought up in MM look at CANADIAN history! One of the biggest issues I have is that Canadians have not told their own story.......now we are starting to produce some good television that does just that.....it is important that programmes like MM continue to tell OUR story from the Canadian point of view. That is what makes the series unique.
Off my soapbox now.....
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Post by Hodge on Mar 9, 2015 21:44:38 GMT
I really do hate to say this once again snacky but how many of these events took place in CANADA let alone TORONTO? Whilst some of them may get a passing mention don't expect to see an episode devoted to them. If you want to speculate about what events may be brought up in MM look at CANADIAN history! One of the biggest issues I have is that Canadians have not told their own story.......now we are starting to produce some good television that does just that.....it is important that programmes like MM continue to tell OUR story from the Canadian point of view. That is what makes the series unique.
Off my soapbox now.....
I've always felt the same way. Part of the problem is Canada has until 'recently' been under the British banner and not quite thought of themselves as separate and more importantly, JUST AS GOOD as any other country, including Britain and the US. Time to start shouting out just how great this country is! This is one of the reasons I like MM so much, it's unashamedly CANADIAN! |
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Post by snacky on Mar 10, 2015 1:26:16 GMT
All the good cloak and dagger happens around treaties! National security! Let me hold that soapbox steady so you can climb a bit higher and your voice will carry.  btw, I gave my Mom a book about Canadian culture/history for Christmas along with the current DVDs. The subliminal messages are working.  |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 10, 2015 1:44:25 GMT
All the good cloak and dagger happens around treaties! National security! Let me hold that soapbox steady so you can climb a bit higher and your voice will carry. btw, I gave my Mom a book about Canadian culture/history for Christmas along with the current DVDs. The subliminal messages are working. Interesting there's a book on Cdn. culture seeing that most Cdns. don't seem to know what it is ... other than it's not American. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 10, 2015 2:23:13 GMT
Interesting there's a book on Cdn. culture seeing that most Cdns. don't seem to know what it is . There were a few to choose from, though most did take a humorous "Canadian rant" approach. My Mom has a side of the family from Quebec, though, and she's very interested. She's taken at least 2 trips to Canada in retirement. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 10, 2015 2:54:41 GMT
There were a few to choose from, though most did take a humorous "Canadian rant" approach. My Mom has a side of the family from Quebec, though, and she's very interested. She's taken at least 2 trips to Canada in retirement. Most Cdn. culture stuff is humorous. We don't take ourselves too seriously! |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 16, 2015 22:26:27 GMT
Canada-1903 via WikipediaEVENTS March 22 - Because of a drought, the U.S. side of Niagara Falls runs short of water March 1 - Henri Bourassa's Ligue nationaliste is founded March 25 - The Alaska Boundary Dispute is settled in the United States' favour April 29 - The Frank Slide, The most destructive landslide in Canadian history, kills 70 in Frank, Alberta June 1 - Richard McBride becomes Premier of British Columbia, replacing Edward Prior June 19 - Regina incorporated as a city June 24 - Ignace Bourget Monument unveiled July 1 - Ray Knight builds the Raymond Stampede rodeo arena and rodeo grandstands in Raymond, Alberta, which are the first ever built in the world. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 16, 2015 22:46:02 GMT
Canada-1903 via WikipediaEVENTS March 22 - Because of a drought, the U.S. side of Niagara Falls runs short of water March 1 - Henri Bourassa's Ligue nationaliste is founded March 25 - The Alaska Boundary Dispute is settled in the United States' favour April 29 - The Frank Slide, The most destructive landslide in Canadian history, kills 70 in Frank, Alberta June 1 - Richard McBride becomes Premier of British Columbia, replacing Edward Prior June 19 - Regina incorporated as a city June 24 - Ignace Bourget Monument unveiled July 1 - Ray Knight builds the Raymond Stampede rodeo arena and rodeo grandstands in Raymond, Alberta, which are the first ever built in the world. Unfortunately nothing around Toronto.... |
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