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Post by brinybay on Nov 7, 2016 16:54:43 GMT
In season 9, "Barenaked Ladies" episode, Julia has an office phone with a handset instead of the usual candlestick phone. They're jumping the gun on technology, that kind of phone wasn't around until at least the early 1930s. It is a bit of a "mutt" phone. It's listed in a 1930 catalog, but the handset that's used in the show is from the 1940s. I believe at that time they are in the year 1903?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 7, 2016 20:25:05 GMT
In season 9, "Barenaked Ladies" episode, Julia has an office phone with a handset instead of the usual candlestick phone. They're jumping the gun on technology, that kind of phone wasn't around until at least the early 1930s. It is a bit of a "mutt" phone. It's listed in a 1930 catalog, but the handset that's used in the show is a different brand from the 1940s. I believe at that time they are in the year 1903? Your comments intrigued me, so I had to look it up. You know 'cause I'm nerdy like that and these things interest me. I did find something similar with the Ericsson Skeleton Phones that date from the 1890's, but it's not quite the same. So I'm going to look closer at her phone next time I get a chance. www.telephonecollecting.org/Bobs%20phones/Pages/Skeletal/Skeletal.htm
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Post by brinybay on Nov 8, 2016 6:05:55 GMT
Your comments intrigued me, so I had to look it up. You know 'cause I'm nerdy like that and these things interest me. I did find something similar with the Ericsson Skeleton Phones that date from the 1890's, but it's not quite the same. So I'm going to look closer at her phone next time I get a chance. www.telephonecollecting.org/Bobs%20phones/Pages/Skeletal/Skeletal.htmIt appears to be a Stromberg-Carlson 1177 (1930s), but with a 1940s handset.
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 8, 2016 12:11:28 GMT
In season 9, "Barenaked Ladies" episode, Julia has an office phone with a handset instead of the usual candlestick phone. They're jumping the gun on technology, that kind of phone wasn't around until at least the early 1930s. It is a bit of a "mutt" phone. It's listed in a 1930 catalog, but the handset that's used in the show is from the 1940s. I believe at that time they are in the year 1903? Huh. I knew there was something off but I couldn't put my finger on it. It's common for the prop and set departments to fudge the timelines but they rarely go this far. I wonder why they decided to bring in a new phone when they had a perfectly appropriate candlestick phone already?
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Post by Hodge on Nov 8, 2016 14:07:30 GMT
Huh. I knew there was something off but I couldn't put my finger on it. It's common for the prop and set departments to fudge the timelines but they rarely go this far. I wonder why they decided to bring in a new phone when they had a perfectly appropriate candlestick phone already? Have to admit I thought the same but then decided they may have had this type of phone then as there are a lot of things that you wouldn't have expected to be around at the time. Has anyone noticed if it's still there? Not sure if we've seen morgue office scenes since this one.
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Post by brinybay on Nov 8, 2016 17:30:25 GMT
Huh. I knew there was something off but I couldn't put my finger on it. It's common for the prop and set departments to fudge the timelines but they rarely go this far. I wonder why they decided to bring in a new phone when they had a perfectly appropriate candlestick phone already? Have to admit I thought the same but then decided they may have had this type of phone then as there are a lot of things that you wouldn't have expected to be around at the time. Has anyone noticed if it's still there? Not sure if we've seen morgue office scenes since this one. We haven't watched the next disk yet (that episode was the last on a Netflix disk) but probably will this weekend. I'm an antique phone collector and I sometimes often drive my wife crazy when I stop the disk to get a closer look at a phone, or at least make a comment about it.
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Post by synapse on Dec 1, 2016 6:44:51 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone!
I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still.
There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 1, 2016 7:21:31 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. As far as the wires go when it came to the rocket the wires were for specific things, with the bomb the wires were connected to a battery, disconnecting either would work. MM doesn't seem to have a bible, unfortunately, so there are many inconsistencies and contradictions.
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Post by synapse on Dec 1, 2016 7:33:53 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. As far as the wires go when it came to the rocket the wires were for specific things, with the bomb the wires were connected to a battery, disconnecting either would work. MM doesn't seem to have a bible, unfortunately, so there are many inconsistencies and contradictions. I guess you're right, although, as far as I remember, it did not matter there either. As you well said, there are inconsistencies that cannot be avoided, but they still make for interesting chat with other fans.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 1, 2016 21:26:33 GMT
As far as the wires go when it came to the rocket the wires were for specific things, with the bomb the wires were connected to a battery, disconnecting either would work. MM doesn't seem to have a bible, unfortunately, so there are many inconsistencies and contradictions. I guess you're right, although, as far as I remember, it did not matter there either. As you well said, there are inconsistencies that cannot be avoided, but they still make for interesting chat with other fans. The first wire he pulled on the rocket set something off that's when Pendrick shouted to pull the other.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 2, 2016 10:39:40 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. You and me both. I cannot stand the fact that by some miracle Mrs. Kitchen has become a good cook. Part of the humor about WM staying at her boarding house was the terrible food she prepared and now she is a great cook. Drives me crazy. Don't they have continuity people reading the scripts to catch these things?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2016 13:08:06 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. You and me both. I cannot stand the fact that by some miracle Mrs. Kitchen has become a good cook. Part of the humor about WM staying at her boarding house was the terrible food she prepared and now she is a great cook. Drives me crazy. Don't they have continuity people reading the scripts to catch these things? What if Mrs. Kitchen is supposed to represent "mother" and now that he's gone, he views her cooking with a rosier view. Don't get me wrong, it bothered me at first too, but I came up with this headcannon to explain it away.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2016 16:09:56 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. You and me both. I cannot stand the fact that by some miracle Mrs. Kitchen has become a good cook. Part of the humor about WM staying at her boarding house was the terrible food she prepared and now she is a great cook. Drives me crazy. Don't they have continuity people reading the scripts to catch these things? Perhaps she learned how to cook in the intervening years. I don't think they do have continuity people, there have been too many contradictions over the course of the show. I've learned to let it pass.
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Post by synapse on Dec 3, 2016 0:54:51 GMT
I knew something was way off in that episode! Well spotted with the telephone! I am usually more bothered by inconsistencies over time. Remember how in season 7, ep 1 (Murdoch ahoy) William finds the bomb in the hull, and Brackenreid asks "how do you know which wire", and he says "it doesn't matter" (which is true), but somehow in season 9, when he has to go into that launch tube to disarm the bomb on the rocket, he has to ask Pendrick which wire? It does make for a comic relief, with Svetlana saying "the blue one, no red, no blue", or whatever... but still. There is also that time he corrects Brackenreid (he does that a lot in the first 2 seasons, pedantic Murdoch) about the correct meaning of "begs the question", yet there is another episode where he himself uses it incorrectly with disappointing nonchalance. I suppose it's because the writers of various episodes change, so I can swallow that pill, but I'd wish for more consistency. You and me both. I cannot stand the fact that by some miracle Mrs. Kitchen has become a good cook. Part of the humor about WM staying at her boarding house was the terrible food she prepared and now she is a great cook. Drives me crazy. Don't they have continuity people reading the scripts to catch these things? I know, right? Or the first season, that episode with the drugged dogs, where his dad was a suspect, Murdoch is explaining to Crabtree about idiot savants, but somehow amnesia hits him, and by season 4, the Dead End Street episode, he seems to have no idea what that is when Julia explains about idiot savants. Ugh.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2016 2:30:45 GMT
You and me both. I cannot stand the fact that by some miracle Mrs. Kitchen has become a good cook. Part of the humor about WM staying at her boarding house was the terrible food she prepared and now she is a great cook. Drives me crazy. Don't they have continuity people reading the scripts to catch these things? I know, right? Or the first season, that episode with the drugged dogs, where his dad was a suspect, Murdoch is explaining to Crabtree about idiot savants, but somehow amnesia hits him, and by season 4, the Dead End Street episode, he seems to have no idea what that is when Julia explains about idiot savants. Ugh. Let Loose the Dogs was written by Jean Greig & Cal Coons, Dead End Street was written by Carol Hay who wasn't on the writing team in the first season. Perhaps she didn't know that William knew about idiot savants.
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