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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 17:35:28 GMT
I really like this episode. It's funny, cheeky, has good character development and a twisted murder that punches you right between the eyes once it's solved. The scene in morgue where Julia "can't imagine" giving up their children and William responds, "Everyone has their story" hit me like a lightning bolt. Is William so hard on Dory because he's angry with Dory's choices or is Dory's situation causing him to realize that while his own childhood could have led him down this road he was, in fact, very lucky? William also seems to exude a good deal of contempt for the parents of street kids...directed at his own father perhaps? Julia seems heartbroken over Pip's murder and wants to take Dory under her wing. I find it interesting that William was actively discouraging that. Was he trying to protect her heart or was he saying "you had your chance at motherhood"? I find it interesting William was so suspicious of Dory, too. Was it intelligence/insight into Dory's character, or was William somehow drawing from his own experiences - either when he had exploited the good will of adults, or when the chaos of being an orphan had disrupted relationships and led to a broken heart? Ouch for that "you had your chance at motherhood" sentiment - but you could be right there. William is hardly perfect and has been known to be a bit petty. The issue of Julia's abortion and choices grinds at him just as it does her since it affects the future they could have had together. I have to point out that believing a child should behave/make the same choices as an adult is a very Asperger's way of thinking. Dory was a very good manipulator...pyschopathic or sociopathic?? This whole season was an angst-fest for William. Ergo it's Snacky's favourite season of MM?
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 3:04:55 GMT
I have to point out that believing a child should behave/make the same choices as an adult is a very Asperger's way of thinking. Dory was a very good manipulator...pyschopathic or sociopathic?? This whole season was an angst-fest for William. Ergo it's Snacky's favourite season of MM?Season 4 was AWESOME!!! William's first instinct was to protect Julia, but it seemed weird that he had no instinct to protect Dory - i.e., he didn't attempt to bring Dory any books to read. I think he would have done this with other street children. Compare how he treated Alwyn. So he either sensed something was wrong with Dory or that something was threatening to Julia about this situation. Maybe he just presumed that since Julia couldn't have children of her own that she would leap at the chance to mother *any* child, so William might have gone the extra mile to create some distance in order to set a professional example for Julia and to try to prevent her from developing an attachment toward a child she couldn't keep...a child that was still a suspect in a murder in his mind.
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 4:13:50 GMT
Just watched this again but missed most of it thanks to some other heated political discussion going on with eclair. Pouting because this is a great ep, and I didn't want eclair to miss so much of it. Only thing I have to add is that I did watch this ep with a keener eye on Julia's maternal instincts kicking in, and I did notice that line where William mentions everyone has their own story. Perhaps he never saw such a cuddly side of her, and he wanted to be coddled by her a little, too? Maybe he's also wondering if Julia's planning to adopt with Darcy, and why she couldn't have considered the same possibility with him? Perhaps he just has some free-floating anger where Julia and children are concerned because he associates that conjunction with Julia leaving him?
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Post by lea on Jul 29, 2015 4:52:49 GMT
Another ep a day! 1. Tess Moffatt and George would probably get on well! I can imagine them discussing zombies, vampires, and the like 2. When you first watch the episode it's not very odd that Dorrie wanted to see Pip's body as you don't know he was the killer. It's fairly twisted, though. 3. I always wondered if Julia wanted children or even liked children all that well. This episode is what makes me think that she would make a good mother and somewhere in her is a desire for them. 4. I'm not a big fan of the campaign side plot but that Right The Ship poster is absolutely priceless. I love it! 5. I could definitely agree with past discussion in this thread that William was just being a bit salty with the whole Dorrie/Julia situation as this was the underlying cause of him being rejected.
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