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Post by catherinefremin on May 2, 2011 0:37:53 GMT
I know they're not married, but even back then, an engagement ring (like today) should be worn on the ring finger of the left hand. Julia's ring was on her right hand...
Cheers, CF
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Post by hannikan on May 2, 2011 0:47:54 GMT
Yeah, you said wedding ring instead of engagement ring. We understood what you meant though.
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Post by catherinefremin on May 2, 2011 1:02:45 GMT
Oh...my bad
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Post by Lucy on May 2, 2011 8:55:43 GMT
It's cool It would be a disaster if they were already married!!
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Post by snacky on Nov 30, 2014 6:27:18 GMT
I wonder if when Julia was talking about how quickly William would forget Arlene's crush on him - she was thinking that he forgot about Julia the minute he got on the train to Buffalo. (even though he gave her a rather disconcerting look of longing in the morgue while she was "playing with a heart").
This is the episode where Julia informs William that some women want "uninhibited romance". William is surprised by this.
Comment from the peanut gallery: Julia missed her chance in TGM!!!
In which we discover William apparently never tried his hand at poetry and/or love letters...
But he is curious enough to try to read Dracula over Julia's shoulder...
William has plenty of chances this episode to discretely look away from flirtatious school girls. Also he bats some love letters away from George, who is tempted to sniff them for perfume, lol.
I find it interesting that Julia was about to leave Arlene with William: I wonder what she thought was going to happen - or what she wanted to have happen? Is she curious to see if this young girl can arouse William's passions in a way that she couldn't?
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Post by lea on Aug 1, 2015 4:00:19 GMT
Another ep a day. I am excited to watch this episode. I'm sure we all know why 1. I laugh so much every time William practically slaps the papers away from George's face after he says "The secret life of teenage girls..." Not to mention later when George essentially does a power point presentation on vampires. 2. William is definitely getting uncomfortable listening to these girls talk about their meet-ups! And oh my goodness that Arlene girl, she was completely hanging on William at the crime scene. Also I think you may be right about Julia leaving Arlene with William. Perhaps was curious if there was finally someone who might be able to light his fire. 3. There was quite the pause when Arlene asked Julia about true love. No doubt thought of William and felt bad for doing so. 4. After reading Dracula Julia was reaalllyyy into William. (It was cute when she got startled) So much tension between those two not including that end scene! 5. Before they went to that fantasy they were certainly crossing a line there! They may have taken things farther than the animal husbandry conversation. If it weren't for the whole Darcy situation that fantasy would have totally happened! That must have been torture for William. Having to go about his life after that. Now I'm getting all riled up about it. Ugh, these two. I didn't think I'd get so much out of this episode! Heh.
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Post by snacky on Aug 2, 2015 20:10:58 GMT
5. Before they went to that fantasy they were certainly crossing a line there! They may have taken things farther than the animal husbandry conversation. If it weren't for the whole Darcy situation that fantasy would have totally happened! That must have been torture for William. Having to go about his life after that. Now I'm getting all riled up about it. Ugh, these two. Since William hasn't read Dracula (or has he?), I wonder what his fantasy was at the minute. This episode competes with The Murdoch Identity as one of my favorites of all time - super-layered! Those people who "won't watch season 4 under any circumstances" at least need to watch this ep. Someone once suggested a fic (but I think is worthy of an episode) where Arlene comes back as a stalker.
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Post by lea on Aug 2, 2015 21:15:42 GMT
5. Before they went to that fantasy they were certainly crossing a line there! They may have taken things farther than the animal husbandry conversation. If it weren't for the whole Darcy situation that fantasy would have totally happened! That must have been torture for William. Having to go about his life after that. Now I'm getting all riled up about it. Ugh, these two. Since William hasn't read Dracula (or has he?), I wonder what his fantasy was at the minute. This episode competes with The Murdoch Identity as one of my favorites of all time - super-layered! Those people who "won't watch season 4 under any circumstances" at least need to watch this ep. Someone once suggested a fic (but I think is worthy of an episode) where Arlene comes back as a stalker. Arlene back would be great! Ha! & yes this is a wonderful episode. Are there really people that refuse to watch season 4? I complain about watching it sometimes but I'm mostly joking
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Post by snacky on Aug 2, 2015 23:15:22 GMT
Since William hasn't read Dracula (or has he?), I wonder what his fantasy was at the minute. This episode competes with The Murdoch Identity as one of my favorites of all time - super-layered! Those people who "won't watch season 4 under any circumstances" at least need to watch this ep. Someone once suggested a fic (but I think is worthy of an episode) where Arlene comes back as a stalker. Arlene back would be great! Ha! & yes this is a wonderful episode. Are there really people that refuse to watch season 4? I complain about watching it sometimes but I'm mostly joking Some people find it too traumatic to watch because the writers might have ended the show with Julia marrying Darcy. IMHO it ties with Season 3 with some of the all time best-written psychologically deep episodes. If you look at the episodes where we draw our deep analysis of William from, a lot comes from Season 4.
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Post by lea on Aug 3, 2015 0:22:27 GMT
Arlene back would be great! Ha! & yes this is a wonderful episode. Are there really people that refuse to watch season 4? I complain about watching it sometimes but I'm mostly joking Some people find it too traumatic to watch because the writers might have ended the show with Julia marrying Darcy. IMHO it ties with Season 3 with some of the all time best-written psychologically deep episodes. If you look at the episodes where we draw our deep analysis of William from, a lot comes from Season 4. Absolutely! We took so much from season 4. It really would have sucked if it had ended with her marrying Darcy... but it didn't! And those two love each other so much more after all of that anyways.
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Post by snacky on Aug 3, 2015 5:54:44 GMT
Some people find it too traumatic to watch because the writers might have ended the show with Julia marrying Darcy. IMHO it ties with Season 3 with some of the all time best-written psychologically deep episodes. If you look at the episodes where we draw our deep analysis of William from, a lot comes from Season 4. Absolutely! We took so much from season 4. It really would have sucked if it had ended with her marrying Darcy... but it didn't! And those two love each other so much more after all of that anyways. IMHO, even Season 4 illustrated that Julia had made the wrong choice the entire time. And William was repeatedly tempted by ideas of Julia: as his mistress, as his vampiric victim, as someone he must learn how to communicate his true feelings to. Murdoch in Wonderland was brilliant even if Julia did marry someone else. I choose to believe that the writers knew that the show would be renewed one way or another and that the matter would resolve somehow. If not in the series, there would be a movie that would fix it.
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Post by lea on Aug 3, 2015 7:12:35 GMT
Absolutely! We took so much from season 4. It really would have sucked if it had ended with her marrying Darcy... but it didn't! And those two love each other so much more after all of that anyways. IMHO, even Season 4 illustrated that Julia had made the wrong choice the entire time. And William was repeatedly tempted by ideas of Julia: as his mistress, as his vampiric victim, as someone he must learn how to communicate his true feelings to. Murdoch in Wonderland was brilliant even if Julia did marry someone else. I choose to believe that the writers knew that the show would be renewed one way or another and that the matter would resolve somehow. If not in the series, there would be a movie that would fix it. Oh for sure! You could see her disappointment and longing all season long. I'm sure there had to be an alternate happy ending if it would have been cancelled. Surely...
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Post by Hodge on Aug 3, 2015 14:42:26 GMT
IMHO, even Season 4 illustrated that Julia had made the wrong choice the entire time. And William was repeatedly tempted by ideas of Julia: as his mistress, as his vampiric victim, as someone he must learn how to communicate his true feelings to. Murdoch in Wonderland was brilliant even if Julia did marry someone else. I choose to believe that the writers knew that the show would be renewed one way or another and that the matter would resolve somehow. If not in the series, there would be a movie that would fix it. Oh for sure! You could see her disappointment and longing all season long. I'm sure there had to be an alternate happy ending if it would have been cancelled. Surely... Perhaps not. The S3 alternate ending is on the DVD's but there's no alternate ending for S4.
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Post by lea on Aug 3, 2015 15:00:26 GMT
Oh for sure! You could see her disappointment and longing all season long. I'm sure there had to be an alternate happy ending if it would have been cancelled. Surely... Perhaps not. The S3 alternate ending is on the DVD's but there's no alternate ending for S4. They must have been really confident about season 5 then! That would have been the worst series ending of all time.
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Post by coolbyrne on May 8, 2017 10:29:41 GMT
I think the best line of perhaps the entire series is "Have you given it to the detective, yet?" Perfectly placed double entendre!
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