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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 18, 2014 19:36:03 GMT
From what I've been told, yes. It doesn't have to be a solitary activity-people openly read sex manga here on the trains. I've been told it's relaxing. Relaxing to the men, and probably seriously uncomfortable to the women sitting next to them, hahaha. Wouldn't William be embarrassed if he started, say, blushing in public? Oh, I don't think he's about to start openly leaving his "materials" around, but he would have a look at pretty, scantily clad girls in the privacy of his office. Bonus: if anyone walked in (as George did), it's for the case, of course! |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:38:31 GMT
We live in a different era where people don't get the pox and lose their noses or so easily end up with babies they can't take care of over a little roll in the hay. It's easier to be promiscuous today. That's why all the Bible-thumpers and Church Ladies across middle America are scrambling to deny women abortions and birth control: they want to make sure there are "consequences" for having sex so they can force marriage on people. But people-especially young men-don't always think with their big head. Hell, young women too for that matter. I've worked with them-I would know. Whatever, it's fun to debate.  Unfortunately I didn't study this time period at all. In fact I avoided to the extreme because the mutton chop facial hair styles gave me the squicks. I've been surprised MM can pull off a show of that era, and I'm still attracted. Anyway, I'd like to get a better handle on the historical context. In movies the men are always getting it on with dollymops in dark alleys, but in the highbrow literature that's been passed down *that I know of* both men and women were highly pressured to save themselves for marriage by religious forces (with some medical back-up). But it was a secularizing time, and the young could blow off those religious forces. Novels were written about bohemian types with mistresses. There was a sensibility of romantic love which might lead to couples getting carried away. There was also a counter-literature of women's wisdom about rakes and philanderers: women weren't stupid about being seduced, and men weren't stupid about being stuck with a family they didn't want. This is what I get from the literary point of view. But I've done very little actual historical person-on-the street sort of reading, so I'm curious about that. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:40:26 GMT
Watching Loch Ness Murdoch, until I have to turn over to watch the local boy in Dr Who. Anyway I guess the person who thought MM was clean didn't pay attention when they were in the water. Firstly William wishpers something scandalous to Julie and then Julie says something is touching me, William didn't think she meant his foot. William laughs like Julia is being naughty, but he clearly loves it when Julia is naughty. If the dead body hadn't intervened, I bet that scene would have progressed to skinny-dipping. |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 18, 2014 19:40:28 GMT
Watching Loch Ness Murdoch, until I have to turn over to watch the local boy in Dr Who. Anyway I guess the person who thought MM was clean didn't pay attention when they were in the water. Firstly William wishpers something scandalous to Julie and then Julie says something is touching me, William didn't think she meant his foot. OMG! I didn't think of that! Really? **adds to list of scenes to rewatch and analyze** That's the ONLY thing I figured William was thinking at that moment. Right after Julia said "something is touching me", William said "Julia!?!" because he knew that HE was touching her. |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 18, 2014 19:43:06 GMT
Watching Loch Ness Murdoch, until I have to turn over to watch the local boy in Dr Who. Anyway I guess the person who thought MM was clean didn't pay attention when they were in the water. Firstly William wishpers something scandalous to Julie and then Julie says something is touching me, William didn't think she meant his foot. William laughs like Julia is being naughty, but he clearly loves it when Julia is naughty. If the dead body hadn't intervened, I bet that scene would have progressed to skinny-dipping. **sigh** my thoughts (hopes and falling asleep dream that night) but ever the slave to keeping us wanting. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 18, 2014 19:43:34 GMT
OMG! I didn't think of that! Really? **adds to list of scenes to rewatch and analyze** That's the ONLY thing I figured William was thinking at that moment. Right after Julia said "something is touching me", William said "Julia!?!" because he knew that HE was touching her. I can't believe I missed it! Well, thanks for confirming it. We goddesses must help one another out.  I would also also like to remind you that William is not wearing a tie around Julia in this scene. 'Nuff said.  |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:46:21 GMT
OMG! I didn't think of that! Really? **adds to list of scenes to rewatch and analyze** That's the ONLY thing I figured William was thinking at that moment. Right after Julia said "something is touching me", William said "Julia!?!" because he knew that HE was touching her. Yes, that's what I concluded, too. Here's the scene so FallenBelle doesn't have to rewatch the whole ep (it seems really dark, though). |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:48:39 GMT
That's the ONLY thing I figured William was thinking at that moment. Right after Julia said "something is touching me", William said "Julia!?!" because he knew that HE was touching her. I can't believe I missed it! Well, thanks for confirming it. We goddesses must help one another out. I would also also like to remind you that William is not wearing a tie around Julia in this scene. 'Nuff said. He's totally afraid to come out of the cocoon cabana, though. He feels a lot safer with water as a buffer, I guess.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 18, 2014 19:49:01 GMT
But people-especially young men-don't always think with their big head. Hell, young women too for that matter. I've worked with them-I would know. Whatever, it's fun to debate. Unfortunately I didn't study this time period at all. In fact I avoided to the extreme because the mutton chop facial hair styles gave me the squicks. I've been surprised MM can pull off a show of that era, and I'm still attracted. Anyway, I'd like to get a better handle on the historical context. In movies the men are always getting it on with dollymops in dark alleys, but in the highbrow literature that's been passed down *that I know of* both men and women were highly pressured to save themselves for marriage by religious forces (with some medical back-up). But it was a secularizing time, and the young could blow off those religious forces. Novels were written about bohemian types with mistresses. There was a sensibility of romantic love which might lead to couples getting carried away. There was also a counter-literature of women's wisdom about rakes and philanderers: women weren't stupid about being seduced, and men weren't stupid about being stuck with a family they didn't want. This is what I get from the literary point of view. But I've done very little actual historical person-on-the street sort of reading, so I'm curious about that. Semi-related: But does anyone else wonder what the deal was with Julia's college lover? Did he get her in the family way and promptly wash his hands of the matter? This might explain why she has had abandonment issues. I say had, because like many a psych student, she healed herself. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:50:05 GMT
William laughs like Julia is being naughty, but he clearly loves it when Julia is naughty. If the dead body hadn't intervened, I bet that scene would have progressed to skinny-dipping. **sigh** my thoughts (hopes and falling asleep dream that night) but ever the slave to keeping us wanting. I doubt that was the only hot day of the summer. *eyebrow waggle*  |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:51:11 GMT
Semi-related: But does anyone else wonder what the deal was with Julia's college lover? Did he get her in the family way and promptly wash his hands of the matter? This might explain why she has had abandonment issues. I say had, because like many a psych student, she healed herself. She doesn't seem very healed to me. Or was she healed when she came back from Vienna...? |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 18, 2014 19:53:14 GMT
LNM is one of my fav eps. It was cute, funny, nudging upon the fantastic and best of all...a bit pervy!! Thanks for the clip snacky. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:53:36 GMT
Relaxing to the men, and probably seriously uncomfortable to the women sitting next to them, hahaha. Wouldn't William be embarrassed if he started, say, blushing in public? Oh, I don't think he's about to start openly leaving his "materials" around, but he would have a look at pretty, scantily clad girls in the privacy of his office. Bonus: if anyone walked in (as George did), it's for the case, of course! After all the times William has virtually ripped the "titillating" evidence out of George's hands because he was looking at it a bit too fondly, this strikes me as a bit unfair. |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 18, 2014 19:55:10 GMT
Unfortunately I didn't study this time period at all. In fact I avoided to the extreme because the mutton chop facial hair styles gave me the squicks. I've been surprised MM can pull off a show of that era, and I'm still attracted. Anyway, I'd like to get a better handle on the historical context. In movies the men are always getting it on with dollymops in dark alleys, but in the highbrow literature that's been passed down *that I know of* both men and women were highly pressured to save themselves for marriage by religious forces (with some medical back-up). But it was a secularizing time, and the young could blow off those religious forces. Novels were written about bohemian types with mistresses. There was a sensibility of romantic love which might lead to couples getting carried away. There was also a counter-literature of women's wisdom about rakes and philanderers: women weren't stupid about being seduced, and men weren't stupid about being stuck with a family they didn't want. This is what I get from the literary point of view. But I've done very little actual historical person-on-the street sort of reading, so I'm curious about that. Semi-related: But does anyone else wonder what the deal was with Julia's college lover? Did he get her in the family way and promptly wash his hands of the matter? This might explain why she has had abandonment issues. I say had, because like many a psych student, she healed herself. Julia told us herself in Shades of Grey...she "had no desire to marry the man". It was another case of Julia doing the running away and giving the fellow a chance to have any input. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 18, 2014 19:55:11 GMT
LNM is one of my fav eps. It was cute, funny, nudging upon the fantastic and best of all...a bit pervy!! Thanks for the clip snacky. While the romantic bits should be the best, my favorite part of the episode is still when William claims he defies the hot weather because Propriety. |
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