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Post by snacky on Jun 21, 2014 21:34:06 GMT
Following the rapid sapphism controversy on CC's tumblr led me to a bubbly recent MM convert dangermousie, who used the term "BAMFy ladies". I must have finally crossed a generational line, because I had to go look that up on Urban Dictionary. In consideration of mixed company I won't translate it here. However, I did make a little something in honor of dangermousie, which I hope CosmicCalvalcade will convey.   |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 5:09:08 GMT
Don't feel bad. I have to look stuff up all the time and I'm not that old! Most recently it was, DFTBA. I like Emily's superman pose and the shocked lady in the background. Is she shocked because of what Julia did or because she can see up that ladies skirts?  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 5:27:53 GMT
Dang, now I had to go look up DFTBA. I'm getting old.  I liked Dangermousie's review because it emphasized an element of MM that I gave short shrift to: the kick-ass women. In fancy hats. It's a win-win. I wonder how Dangermousie's recent "conversion" occurred? It's ridiculous how fast Orphan Black conquered the entertainment news in the U.S.: they were even in the *headline* area of Google news tonight. Is their marketing budget that big, or is their audience really that big in the U.S.? I'd be surprised if enough people even got BBC America to justify that kind of coverage. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 15:27:19 GMT
Probably one of my YT vids. How conceited is that? xD
It's true OB has swept the nation so to speak but in this case I don't mind since I love that show too.
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Post by lovemondays on Jun 22, 2014 17:03:34 GMT
You 2 have had me looking up all kinds of stuff this morning! Probably would have been faster to ask my kids but I don't want them knowing how out of the loop I am on new stuff  . |
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 18:05:21 GMT
The one free preview of Orphan Black I saw was a cool concept, but I don't see it as having the kind of obsessive potential (for me) that MM has. But perhaps it's because I haven't "binge watched" it yet. I don't get the BBC America channel. Also with only 10 episodes a season it seems more like an art form than a "favorite TV show". For a favorite TV show, you need something with a lot of episodes and room for a lot of character development. Now that I think about it, this is the problem with cable TV's new concept of "year round programming" which encourages programmers to order short runs of 8-13 episodes to cycle all year round instead of the traditional 26-8 episodes/summer reruns. While this keeps TV in general "fresh", it means individual shows are more likely to be disrupted and end up with fewer episodes over all. This structure will give actors more room to take on other projects, but it will also leave the door wide open for actors' plans to change, contracts to be renegotiated after fewer episodes, etc. In short, it shifts instability on to individual TV shows just so there can be "something new" all year round. I was astounded that MM had only 13 shows per season, and it only has enough episodes to be a "favorite" show for me because I started watching it so late. But I also feel cheated that it only has half the episodes it "should" have for 7 seasons, from an American perspective. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 20:32:59 GMT
I personally like shorter seasons because I find the overall quality remains higher as opposed to 20+ episodes per season in which they usually have a lot of 'fillers' in order to flesh out the storyline enough.
So I was disappointed when they announced 18 episodes per season. There were a lot I didn't particularly like. Upon another viewing though, they weren't as bad as I recalled.
And OB is highly addictive! If the episodes are available I will have trouble stopping at 5 a day. Don't know how to wait until next year for more!
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 20:41:42 GMT
I personally like shorter seasons because I find the overall quality remains higher as opposed to 20+ episodes per season in which they usually have a lot of 'fillers' in order to flesh out the storyline enough. So I was disappointed when they announced 18 episodes per season. There were a lot I didn't particularly like. Upon another viewing though, they weren't as bad as I recalled. And OB is highly addictive! If the episodes are available I will have trouble stopping at 5 a day. Don't know how to wait until next year for more! Hmm, I don't feel that US shows always have to resort to "filler" - but I suppose it depends on which network sponsors the show and how well funded it is. I can see how the actors will have more rewarding careers working on short-cycle shows, though. (Unless they prefer the stability of working on just one thing most of the year for years on end). MM episodes are surprisingly rewatchable. The episode I thought I liked least for Season 7, The Filmed Adventures, has now withstood 3 viewings, and it did get better each time. I rewatched Belly Speaker (which was previously one of my "lowest rated") after a discussion here - and it also seemed better. I guess there are nuances you don't pick up on first viewing. What is addictive about OB? The mystery of finding out why the clones exist and who is out to get them? |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 21:18:13 GMT
No not always but a lot of them do and I find myself feeling cheated after a pointless episode that did nothing to further the plot or cause character development.
Yes, definitely. That was one of my least faves too but I didn't feel completely disconnected the second time around and actually found some of it funny. Belly speaker is actually one of my faves from S1 because I find it rather hilarious.
That plus it often ended in a rather intriguing spot. It's also pretty funny, very well acted and just plain different with one actress playing almost all the roles. That process in and of itself is fascinating. Also you tend to forget that it's a sci-fi show because it's mostly about these womens relationships to each other and just trying to live their lives as if they were normal.
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 21:49:26 GMT
I used to get outraged at The X-Files because it was such a great concept, and it had such great fan support, yet half the time the episodes looked like they'd spent 5 minutes in editing and everyone was sick of the whole thing. I hope that doesn't happen to MM. There must be some secret sauce where the writers and the actors want to continue to produce a great show just because they enjoy doing that.
Regarding OB - do all the boyfriends/husbands tend to be "handlers" in some respect?
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 21:58:44 GMT
Lol it sounds like you've watched the show a bit! Or at least are familiar with sci-fi concepts. But yes, they do tend to be. They call them monitors in the show though.
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 22:14:29 GMT
Lol it sounds like you've watched the show a bit! Or at least are familiar with sci-fi concepts. But yes, they do tend to be. They call them monitors in the show though. I've only actually seen one episode, but I read the backstory on Wikipedia. Also, I get most of my news through Google News feeds, and that's always deluged with OB reviews and analysis. This makes me grouchy because there's never anything about MM. I've tried writing a couple of the review pushers like Entertainment Weekly, but no dice. Congratulations to OB for being good, but why is MM so universally IGNORED? It deserves better.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 22, 2014 23:07:54 GMT
Because MM is so uniquely Canadian whereas OB could truthfully be taking place anywhere even though it's supposedly in the Toronto area as well. And MM isn't flashy like OB and it's a period show. It's only because of Downton Abbey that its even gotten the recognition it does have. I remember when there was basically no one interested in the show...it didn't start getting 'really popular' until around season 5, which is ironic since they cancelled it then. What makes me laugh is that ever since CBC picked it up, City has been playing reruns constantly even though it was supposedly not their type of show.
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 23:47:24 GMT
Because MM is so uniquely Canadian whereas OB could truthfully be taking place anywhere even though it's supposedly in the Toronto area as well. And MM isn't flashy like OB and it's a period show. It's only because of Downton Abbey that its even gotten the recognition it does have. I remember when there was basically no one interested in the show...it didn't start getting 'really popular' until around season 5, which is ironic since they cancelled it then. What makes me laugh is that ever since CBC picked it up, City has been playing reruns constantly even though it was supposedly not their type of show. But...but...being set in a particular place is the entire point and virtue of period pieces! MM is what showed the world (or at least me in the world) that Toronto was part of the history of European civilization instead of just another generic American strip mall. Being set *in Toronto* is what makes MM so great!!!! And a period show can be flashy! All the flash is in the hats! Just add more feathers, ribbons, and tinsel! Set fashion trends among your fans. I find Downton Abbey BORING AS F~. I did not follow the Downton Abbey fan lemmings over a cliff to find MM. I just needed to get in a situation where I could actually see MM on TV for my own interests to kick in and recognize MM as a show I'd like to get to invest more time in. I think MM had 2 problems from the get-go: 1) Poor distribution/marketing...because... 2) The Toronto angle wasn't presented correctly. Toronto is a FEATURE not a BUG! I now want to visit Toronto! 6 months ago the only thing I knew about Toronto was it's some GENERIC city in Canada! Now it has an identity for me like New York, London, Paris, Rome, Moscow, Hong Kong, etc. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 23, 2014 0:01:56 GMT
Yeah but I get the impression that most people only want to watch stuff from places they are familiar with. Toronto wouldn't fit that bill for most, especially a 1900's Toronto.
But not flashy in the way that apparently counts nowadays. Ie. a lot of sex and violence
Lol. I don't think I ever managed to get through an entire episode!
1) blame City. They were horrid at marketing it. As in they didn't.
2) Or it WAS and like I said before, people like what they know.
Make sure to go moose hunting when you do.
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