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Post by snacky on Aug 7, 2014 6:45:42 GMT
According to these tumblr guys (click here), the title of the 5th episode of Murdoch Mysteries is "Murdoch Takes Manhattan". This is where the shot of the Embassy (marriage certificate?) comes from. This could mean there is more than one American episode this season since there was also the pic of Julia in what was presumably the President's office in Washington D.C.  If I'm counting right, the 100th episode is the one after it. This is confusing because it seems like if they go to the U.S. to help with some issue and/or honeymoon, they shouldn't run back up to Hamilton, Canada for the wedding. It seems like they'd just work their way down toward Washington in a 2-part episode. I had a theory that it might be easier for William and Julia to find a Protestant minister to marry them and ask no questions in the U.S. It might be necessary to work with the embassy to get this marriage recognized in Canada. But if that happens in the Manhattan episode, what happens in episode 100, which seems to feature more than one marriage back in Canada? If you click on the Tumblr post, it also reminds us, the Manhattan episode is the one that made Georgina cry. While the shipper reflex assumes something went wrong with the wedding, I doubt the writers would make that the center of the episode. So I looked up some things that might have happened in 1902: I thought I remembered something similar on my Canadian 1902 list so I checked: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/post/8046/threadIt turned out to be the same big accident: I guess I figured it was close enough to Canada when I added it! Anyway, there is the additional information that it led to the banning of steam locomotives in NY. I guess that's the official close of the Steampunk Age in New York!  Anyway, my suspicion is this is what would make Georgina cry, especially if there was a lot of chaos and someone who might have been on that train was missing. Unless Emily also came to New York, I suppose all they could do is read about the accident in the paper. Here's my theory: William and Julia are on their way to New York for something to do with the marriage. Train accident happens. Perhaps the tears mean no one at Station House 4 knows what happened to William and Julia, but they did know victims. (well the angst-o-matic corner of my mind wants William and Julia to get separated and one to not know what happened to the other). This article says the tabloids were filled with gruesome descriptions of the injuries: www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/grandcentral-parkave/Some eye witness accounts: www.gendisasters.com/data1/ny/trains/newyork-trainwreckjan1902.htmWilliam might also be called as an expert witness in the trial of the train engineer. He could try to talk scientifically about how steam works vs. electricity while the opposing lawyer barrages him with photos of burn victims! Perhaps William's evidence exonerates the engineer even though someone Station House 4 knows was "roasted alive"?! Of course popular pressure would be to lynch the engineer without a trial. www.iridetheharlemline.com/tag/park-avenue-wreck/There were a couple notable train wrecks in Canada later in 1902, including a head-on collision that killed 30 people at the end of the year. Well, that would be "10% darker", wouldn't it?  Ps. Needless to say, this would disrupt an attempt to get married in New York... |
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Post by carco on Aug 8, 2014 22:15:39 GMT
According to these tumblr guys (click here), the title of the 5th episode of Murdoch Mysteries is "Murdoch Takes Manhattan". This is where the shot of the Embassy (marriage certificate?) comes from. This could mean there is more than one American episode this season since there was also the pic of Julia in what was presumably the President's office in Washington D.C. If I'm counting right, the 100th episode is the one after it. This is confusing because it seems like if they go to the U.S. to help with some issue and/or honeymoon, they shouldn't run back up to Hamilton, Canada for the wedding. It seems like they'd just work their way down toward Washington in a 2-part episode. I had a theory that it might be easier for William and Julia to find a Protestant minister to marry them and ask no questions in the U.S. It might be necessary to work with the embassy to get this marriage recognized in Canada. But if that happens in the Manhattan episode, what happens in episode 100, which seems to feature more than one marriage back in Canada? If you click on the Tumblr post, it also reminds us, the Manhattan episode is the one that made Georgina cry. While the shipper reflex assumes something went wrong with the wedding, I doubt the writers would make that the center of the episode. So I looked up some things that might have happened in 1902: I thought I remembered something similar on my Canadian 1902 list so I checked: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/post/8046/threadIt turned out to be the same big accident: I guess I figured it was close enough to Canada when I added it! Anyway, there is the additional information that it led to the banning of steam locomotives in NY. I guess that's the official close of the Steampunk Age in New York! Anyway, my suspicion is this is what would make Georgina cry, especially if there was a lot of chaos and someone who might have been on that train was missing. Unless Emily also came to New York, I suppose all they could do is read about the accident in the paper. Here's my theory: William and Julia are on their way to New York for something to do with the marriage. Train accident happens. Perhaps the tears mean no one at Station House 4 knows what happened to William and Julia, but they did know victims. (well the angst-o-matic corner of my mind wants William and Julia to get separated and one to not know what happened to the other). This article says the tabloids were filled with gruesome descriptions of the injuries: www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/grandcentral-parkave/Some eye witness accounts: www.gendisasters.com/data1/ny/trains/newyork-trainwreckjan1902.htmWilliam might also be called as an expert witness in the trial of the train engineer. He could try to talk scientifically about how steam works vs. electricity while the opposing lawyer barrages him with photos of burn victims! Perhaps William's evidence exonerates the engineer even though someone Station House 4 knows was "roasted alive"?! Of course popular pressure would be to lynch the engineer without a trial. www.iridetheharlemline.com/tag/park-avenue-wreck/There were a couple notable train wrecks in Canada later in 1902, including a head-on collision that killed 30 people at the end of the year. Well, that would be "10% darker", wouldn't it? Ps. Needless to say, this would disrupt an attempt to get married in New York... Oh wow! Oh &@#%....Anna wouldn't have gone back to NYC would she? I like Anna but I really would rather not see her be any kind of a threat to Julia and William. But that's just me. Now have to go back and read your posting in more detail. My mind stopped when I saw NYC |
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Post by carco on Aug 8, 2014 22:29:38 GMT
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 0:20:04 GMT
Oh wow! Oh &@#%....Anna wouldn't have gone back to NYC would she? I like Anna but I really would rather not see her be any kind of a threat to Julia and William. But that's just me. Now have to go back and read your posting in more detail. My mind stopped when I saw NYC Fear not! I'm thinking it has nothing to do with Anna whatsoever. In fact, I doubt it has anything to do with the wedding, though there is a slim chance William and Julia happen to be in New York because they are looking for alternative ways to get married...but of course their plans are foiled. I'm curious as to where Georgina's great turmoil comes in, though. Is someone from Station House 4 hurt/killed? Was she in New York at the time, too? Does she have to testify? Does she have to testify against William, or for William but against popular sentiment? This is going to be one of the first big "media trials" with many photos of "cooked bodies", I imagine. The thing to keep in mind: it isn't always about William/Julia. And that's what makes Murdoch Mysteries a great show. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Aug 9, 2014 2:03:26 GMT
According to these tumblr guys (click here), the title of the 5th episode of Murdoch Mysteries is "Murdoch Takes Manhattan". This is where the shot of the Embassy (marriage certificate?) comes from. This could mean there is more than one American episode this season since there was also the pic of Julia in what was presumably the President's office in Washington D.C. If I'm counting right, the 100th episode is the one after it. This is confusing because it seems like if they go to the U.S. to help with some issue and/or honeymoon, they shouldn't run back up to Hamilton, Canada for the wedding. It seems like they'd just work their way down toward Washington in a 2-part episode. I had a theory that it might be easier for William and Julia to find a Protestant minister to marry them and ask no questions in the U.S. It might be necessary to work with the embassy to get this marriage recognized in Canada. But if that happens in the Manhattan episode, what happens in episode 100, which seems to feature more than one marriage back in Canada? If you click on the Tumblr post, it also reminds us, the Manhattan episode is the one that made Georgina cry. While the shipper reflex assumes something went wrong with the wedding, I doubt the writers would make that the center of the episode. So I looked up some things that might have happened in 1902: I thought I remembered something similar on my Canadian 1902 list so I checked: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/post/8046/threadIt turned out to be the same big accident: I guess I figured it was close enough to Canada when I added it! Anyway, there is the additional information that it led to the banning of steam locomotives in NY. I guess that's the official close of the Steampunk Age in New York! Anyway, my suspicion is this is what would make Georgina cry, especially if there was a lot of chaos and someone who might have been on that train was missing. Unless Emily also came to New York, I suppose all they could do is read about the accident in the paper. Here's my theory: William and Julia are on their way to New York for something to do with the marriage. Train accident happens. Perhaps the tears mean no one at Station House 4 knows what happened to William and Julia, but they did know victims. (well the angst-o-matic corner of my mind wants William and Julia to get separated and one to not know what happened to the other). This article says the tabloids were filled with gruesome descriptions of the injuries: www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/grandcentral-parkave/Some eye witness accounts: www.gendisasters.com/data1/ny/trains/newyork-trainwreckjan1902.htmWilliam might also be called as an expert witness in the trial of the train engineer. He could try to talk scientifically about how steam works vs. electricity while the opposing lawyer barrages him with photos of burn victims! Perhaps William's evidence exonerates the engineer even though someone Station House 4 knows was "roasted alive"?! Of course popular pressure would be to lynch the engineer without a trial. www.iridetheharlemline.com/tag/park-avenue-wreck/There were a couple notable train wrecks in Canada later in 1902, including a head-on collision that killed 30 people at the end of the year. Well, that would be "10% darker", wouldn't it? Ps. Needless to say, this would disrupt an attempt to get married in New York... You're not counting right, (13*6 + 18 = 96). Episode five is 101....the one after the supposed marriage episode. But that was an interesting idea, with the train, and could still very well be feasible. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 2:19:35 GMT
You're not counting right, (13*6 + 18 = 96). Episode five is 101....the one after the supposed marriage episode. But that was an interesting idea, with the train, and could still very well be feasible. lol - well, being an American, shouldn't it be stipulated that I can't do math?  So if they really did get married they could be in New York for the honeymoon. Or they got married "informally" in some way, and they still need a marriage certificate. Or I'm right about *none* of the marriages in episode 100 being real: all of them being a nightmare of what might go wrong, while on the way to the altar...in New York? |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Aug 9, 2014 2:25:38 GMT
You're not counting right, (13*6 + 18 = 96). Episode five is 101....the one after the supposed marriage episode. But that was an interesting idea, with the train, and could still very well be feasible. lol - well, being an American, shouldn't it be stipulated that I can't do math? So if they really did get married they could be in New York for the honeymoon. Or they got married "informally" in some way, and they still need a marriage certificate. Or I'm right about *none* of the marriages in episode 100 being real: all of them being a nightmare of what might go wrong, while on the way to the altar...in New York? i couldn't do that in my head either. there's this thing called a calculator.  |
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 2:39:22 GMT
lol - well, being an American, shouldn't it be stipulated that I can't do math? So if they really did get married they could be in New York for the honeymoon. Or they got married "informally" in some way, and they still need a marriage certificate. Or I'm right about *none* of the marriages in episode 100 being real: all of them being a nightmare of what might go wrong, while on the way to the altar...in New York? i couldn't do that in my head either. there's this thing called a calculator. But then I'd actually have to find something on Windows 8.  |
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Post by carco on Aug 9, 2014 20:41:01 GMT
According to these tumblr guys (click here), the title of the 5th episode of Murdoch Mysteries is "Murdoch Takes Manhattan". This is where the shot of the Embassy (marriage certificate?) comes from. One thing snacky, you mentioned the Embassy as a possible place where they would get a marriage certificate. Does that mean you are thinking it could be the Canadian Embassy in NYC?? Just curious because from what I saw in the pic, the sign on the building says "Park Embassy..." which I took to mean as in "Hotel" or Apts., etc. It's going to be fun to read back over all our "predictions" in a few months when we've seen the actual episode!!  Remember all the bruhaha and speculation when the S7 finale title "Death of Dr Ogden" came out early? |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 9, 2014 20:47:25 GMT
One thing snacky, you mentioned the Embassy as a possible place where they would get a marriage certificate. Does that mean you are thinking it could be the Canadian Embassy in NYC?? Just curious because from what I saw in the pic, the sign on the building says "Park Embassy..." which I took to mean as in "Hotel" or Apts., etc. It's going to be fun to read back over all our "predictions" in a few months when we've seen the actual episode!! Remember all the bruhaha and speculation when the S7 finale title "Death of Dr Ogden" came out early? The Park Embassy is a hotel on the MM set. I think it may be new in season 8. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 21:01:08 GMT
One thing snacky, you mentioned the Embassy as a possible place where they would get a marriage certificate. Does that mean you are thinking it could be the Canadian Embassy in NYC?? Just curious because from what I saw in the pic, the sign on the building says "Park Embassy..." which I took to mean as in "Hotel" or Apts., etc. It's going to be fun to read back over all our "predictions" in a few months when we've seen the actual episode!! Remember all the bruhaha and speculation when the S7 finale title "Death of Dr Ogden" came out early? Oooh - I just saw embassy, so I assumed it was a government building. Maybe it's the honeymoon suite instead, lol. We still have several months to fill with predictions! It would be boring to focus on shipper ones.  Mine were pretty close to the mark for the Death of Dr. Ogden!  |
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 21:06:10 GMT
The Park Embassy is a hotel on the MM set. I think it may be new in season 8. When I googled to see if it was an actual historical hotel in New York, all I got was results for the Embassy Suites chain. Maybe it's just supposed to imply an "upscale hotel" in New York. *thinks honeymoon hotel* |
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Post by carco on Aug 9, 2014 21:19:06 GMT
Oh wow! Oh &@#%....Anna wouldn't have gone back to NYC would she? I like Anna but I really would rather not see her be any kind of a threat to Julia and William. But that's just me. Now have to go back and read your posting in more detail. My mind stopped when I saw NYC Fear not! I'm thinking it has nothing to do with Anna whatsoever. In fact, I doubt it has anything to do with the wedding, though there is a slim chance William and Julia happen to be in New York because they are looking for alternative ways to get married...but of course their plans are foiled. I'm curious as to where Georgina's great turmoil comes in, though. Is someone from Station House 4 hurt/killed? Was she in New York at the time, too? Does she have to testify? Does she have to testify against William, or for William but against popular sentiment? This is going to be one of the first big "media trials" with many photos of "cooked bodies", I imagine. The thing to keep in mind: it isn't always about William/Julia. And that's what makes Murdoch Mysteries a great show. Possibly W & J were travelling by train from T.O to Washington for some reason (an assumption based on the pic of "Julia" in the oval office) with a stop in NYC. The train crash in a tunnel would mean a blocked track system and could force them into a lay-over there while another train is arranged to take the passengers on to Washington (why is Julia in Washington??? at the Whitehouse???). Julia's a Dr. and doctors would be outnumbered by the sudden onslaught of dying and injured. In fact, they could each end up "working" there for a brief time with Wm helping out with the investigation. Georgina's comments were in reference to a read-through. Aren't they all in the room for read-through's? If I was an actor, I imagine I would be feeling quite emotional if I was sitting in on a read-through of dialogue by David Fox (Julia's father) in "The Death of Dr Ogden" in any of his conversations with Julia, but particularly their last scene together. (I'l admit though, if David Fox read the phone book to me I would probably get emotional. Wonderful actor.) What Georgina referred to might simply be about the actual dialogue and the way is was being delivered.......OR not. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 9, 2014 22:02:15 GMT
Possibly W & J were travelling by train from T.O to Washington for some reason (an assumption based on the pic of "Julia" in the oval office) with a stop in NYC. The train crash in a tunnel would mean a blocked track system and could force them into a lay-over there while another train is arranged to take the passengers on to Washington (why is Julia in Washington??? at the Whitehouse???). Julia's a Dr. and doctors would be outnumbered by the sudden onslaught of dying and injured. In fact, they could each end up "working" there for a brief time with Wm helping out with the investigation. Georgina's comments were in reference to a read-through. Aren't they all in the room for read-through's? If I was an actor, I imagine I would be feeling quite emotional if I was sitting in on a read-through of dialogue by David Fox (Julia's father) in "The Death of Dr Ogden" in any of his conversations with Julia, but particularly their last scene together. (I'l admit though, if David Fox read the phone book to me I would probably get emotional. Wonderful actor.) What Georgina referred to might simply be about the actual dialogue and the way is was being delivered.......OR not. I'm confused about the Washington pic, too: unless it isn't Washington at all? Maybe it's just an oval room and Helene Joy was just joking it was the Oval Office...? Good idea about the read-through! I'm still thinking William could be involved in the trial somehow. Apparently the Engineer was initially blamed and later exonerated. Also there's the whole Steam vs. Electricity thing, with a lot of Sentiment of the Mob condemning Steam! |
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Post by carco on Aug 10, 2014 3:23:06 GMT
..... I'm still thinking William could be involved in the trial somehow. Apparently the Engineer was initially blamed and later exonerated. Also there's the whole Steam vs. Electricity thing, with a lot of Sentiment of the Mob condemning Steam!It would certainly be right up his alley! Hah! I can just hear us when the real episode airs in the fall ...... we'll be like, "Oh! Really? Ok. Yeah, that works too!" |
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Remember all the bruhaha and speculation when the S7 finale title "Death of Dr Ogden" came out early? 
