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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 21, 2014 19:15:24 GMT
as you guys say she can handle herself and he probably enjoys watching her give people the beat down. Hmm I wonder if this is true. William has said in the past he will not rescue her where she can handle herself. Perhaps he thinks she would consider it an insult if he barged in as a Knight in Shining Armor, shoving the Little Woman aside. Or...he may really just get off on seeing His woman give other guys the brush off. Or...he's oblivious. As he has been in past episodes. I kind of like Bambi!William, so I'm sticking with this one. I'm going with the last option-he was oblivious until Brax prodded him.
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Post by snacky on Oct 21, 2014 19:20:36 GMT
I can't believe I forgot to mention Brax' wedding gift of a gun-it's a subtle way of saying "Hey! You've got to be more careful now. You've got responsibilities" to William. Yes, he can still use his wits, but if that doesn't work, he needs something to even the score, especially if he's working with ultra-baddies. On a related note, I finally saw a preview. Is that really the dress Julia's going to wear? I hope that was just a nightmare scenario. :/ EDIT: Link to preview: youtu.be/mgSh2j0nUSwWilliam's reaction to the gift was really strange. I'd always assumed his aversion to guns was because that's the way his job was conducted in the Canadian justice system. He does use guns when necessary. But receiving a gun as a gift outside the job made him almost as nervous as being propositioned in the whorehouse. Maybe this relates to the skeleton in the closet? Don't remind me of the dress! I'm so disappointed.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Oct 21, 2014 19:21:00 GMT
But there's explanations at least. The simplest being that she has learned to cook well in the past 6 years since we last saw her. Then it's Murdo has lost his sense of taste from her terrible cooking. Then it's Murdo being frugal and wanting free catering for his wedding so he's pretending it's good. And the whole moving in thing, I think it's like Snacky said. He's come to look at her like a mother figure, it's been 15+ years since he moved in and now he has a hard time saying goodbye. Exactly. You can't have one and not the other. If his near death experience changed his perspective on what is important in life, then it would be either all or none imo. Several comments on twitter. They know they made a mistake there. I just found it funny. Clearly it was an issue of continuity. They would've used a stunt guy for the fall...and just had Yannick on the ground after the fact. Yes, you absolutely have to. You have no choice in the matter. Whereas, I probably won't write anything because I am the senior God here, so I don't hafta. So there. I'll think about it writing that fic, but you still have to write one. Maybe you could write the same, and we could compare the varying versions? Which fic have I agreed to write again? BP fic, or the aftermath. Or perhaps you could write one and I'll write the other. You pick. Yeah I don't know what we're talking about here. What's BP?
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Oct 21, 2014 19:23:36 GMT
I was like, here come the cigars snacky predicted...oh wait what? I didn't think about that at all, but you're probably right! After all Brax probably carries a gun around with him at all times now too. The question is, does it work at all if Bat sold George the same 'legendary' one or are they cheap knock offs that are more for show than anything else? I'd hate for him to be in a position where he had to use it only to find out he's screwed. :/ I'll have to a take a closer look later. I was still laughing from the ending so I didn't notice her dress being terrible...but it wouldn't surprise me considering what she wore for her first one. But Bat got William a dancer for his BP. Why would he sell them crappy guns-plus, I'd think Canadian or not, they can tell if a gun is crap. They're lawmen- surely they'd know...me on the other hand, I may be from Texas, but I've only fired a BB gun once in my life when I was like 7 or 8 and that's it. I would never be able to tell the difference. And in case you missed my addition to the earlier post-our fave blue dress is back. Joy. Oh never mind. BP is bachelor party. Got ya. Why? Cuz he's kinda a con man, or hadn't you noticed? And Brax had the fanboy goggles on. Helene Joy. Btw, it's her B-Day. She's ____ years old. Whatever you want it to be.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 19:23:53 GMT
From those shots, it is not as bad as the first one. It looks like it is cream or ecru and the bodice if more attractive. It's the veil that bothers me.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 21, 2014 19:27:30 GMT
I'll think about it writing that fic, but you still have to write one. Maybe you could write the same, and we could compare the varying versions? Which fic have I agreed to write again? BP fic, or the aftermath. Or perhaps you could write one and I'll write the other. You pick. Yeah I don't know what we're talking about here. What's BP? Bachelor Party
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 21, 2014 19:29:03 GMT
From those shots, it is not as bad as the first one. It looks like it is cream or ecru and the bodice if more attractive. It's the veil that bothers me. I don't mind the skirt-that's kinda nice and sleek. But that top-that doesn't go with it at all. My eyes! The top is too distracting to even look at the veil!
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Post by Hodge on Oct 21, 2014 19:30:00 GMT
Oooh - I've never heard that expression "nervous as a virgin in a whorehouse"- no wonder I didn't pick it up! But William has been in whorehouses before. This was the "best" whorehouse in town - presumably an equivalent to The Music Academy, and William had no problems there. I'd be curious to see how "nervous" William was in the movie version where he met Ettie. In any case, I'm persuaded he only became nervous when he was directly propositioned. Maybe this is because part of his mind is considering it. Maybe it's hard to be such a proper gentleman, and he's been holding out for a loooooooooong time. He doesn't want to be put in a position where his resole might crumble. I'm not arguing against William being a virgin - my feeling is he hasn't slept with anyone during the show run of Murdoch Mysteries (except possibly Anna in Walk on the Wild Side) - he possibly hasn't slept with anyone since he became engaged to Liza and started keeping himself "pure" for marriage. So no matter what, it's been a very long time of upholding "principles" for him. That "tapas" is brimming over! That's a very old expression. When William was in The Music Academy he was there to solve a murder, he was in his element. When he met Ettie he knew who she was and was comfortable with her. This is where the show references back to the movies. In the movies Murdoch has a 'somewhat' relationship with Ettie but pulls back because he's a cop, much to her disappointment. In GD he's not solving a murder and then he gets propositioned by a pretty, very forward, prostitute days(?) before the wedding that he's been saving himself for. His resolve must be sorely tested.
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Post by snacky on Oct 21, 2014 19:30:52 GMT
will have to watch again, life's tough. The one thing I got out of last night's ep is that Julia has finally considered William's feelings I've always thought she was an atheist she looked at William and said 'a gentleman?'. Now we know how she looks on William and I'm liking what I'm seeing. hahahha, life is soooooooooooo tough isn't it! And soon you will have wiggly puppies to boot! I could hear the collective fan squee around the world when Julia crossed a bridge to do something for William. I knew you'd love that part. I think Julia is agnostic if not an athiest. I've been reading a lot about science/scientist in that era, and the rapid shifts in knowledge of the universe was seriously challenging to traditional religious beliefs. A lot of scientists felt they paid lip service to religion merely to keep up the social order. After being immersed in that scientific worldview, Julia needed some prompting to consider the religious worldview again. Her mind seems open though. The part I want to rewatch: she came at the priest as if she felt religious belief might be psychologically harming William. I also need to rewatch what look Julia gave William when Bat said (scoffingly) "gentle--man"! She's seen JungleJustice!William in action!
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Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 19:32:16 GMT
But Bat got William a dancer for his BP. Why would he sell them crappy guns-plus, I'd think Canadian or not, they can tell if a gun is crap. They're lawmen- surely they'd know...me on the other hand, I may be from Texas, but I've only fired a BB gun once in my life when I was like 7 or 8 and that's it. I would never be able to tell the difference. And in case you missed my addition to the earlier post-our fave blue dress is back. Joy. Oh never mind. BP is bachelor party. Got ya. Why? Cuz he's kinda a con man, or hadn't you noticed? And Brax had the fanboy goggles on. Helene Joy. Btw, it's her B-Day. She's ____ years old. Whatever you want it to be. Clearly someone is going around selling replica's of Bat Masterson's pistol and Brax, Georg and Henry got fleeced. Only men would give a pistol to a friend as a bachelor party.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 21, 2014 19:32:49 GMT
Hmm I wonder if this is true. William has said in the past he will not rescue her where she can handle herself. Perhaps he thinks she would consider it an insult if he barged in as a Knight in Shining Armor, shoving the Little Woman aside. Or...he may really just get off on seeing His woman give other guys the brush off. Or...he's oblivious. As he has been in past episodes. I kind of like Bambi!William, so I'm sticking with this one. I'm going with the last option-he was oblivious until Brax prodded him. I agree. However, I'm sure he's seen Julia propositioned and put men in their place many times, he's not aware of it any more even when his manhood has been called into question.
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Post by snacky on Oct 21, 2014 19:36:32 GMT
Good to hear that you're writing that fic. I'll still write the BP fic if that's what I need to do to create more fic. That's how I roll. Ay Caramba, I don't know how long the Scandal of the Century one will take. And now there is another one in the queue? Wa, I'm really busy and multitasking as I comment on the forum now. Can someone else write a fic about William drunkenly fantasizing about building a electric castle house for Julia after the bachelor party please?
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Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 19:37:18 GMT
will have to watch again, life's tough. The one thing I got out of last night's ep is that Julia has finally considered William's feelings I've always thought she was an atheist she looked at William and said 'a gentleman?'. Now we know how she looks on William and I'm liking what I'm seeing. hahahha, life is soooooooooooo tough isn't it! And soon you will have wiggly puppies to boot! I could hear the collective fan squee around the world when Julia crossed a bridge to do something for William. I knew you'd love that part. I think Julia is agnostic if not an athiest. I've been reading a lot about science/scientist in that era, and the rapid shifts in knowledge of the universe was seriously challenging to traditional religious beliefs. A lot of scientists felt they paid lip service to religion merely to keep up the social order. After being immersed in that scientific worldview, Julia needed some prompting to consider the religious worldview again. Her mind seems open though. The part I want to rewatch: she came at the priest as if she felt religious belief might be psychologically harming William. I also need to rewatch what look Julia gave William when Bat said (scoffingly) "gentle--man"! She's seen JungleJustice!William in action! I do so agree with those of you who said it was about time that Julia did something for William. I can't remember if William said he wanted his children to be raised in the Church in the series, the books, or the fics. I do know she has said some pretty harsh things to him about his faith knowing full well he was a very devout man. Anyway, this was an issue that had to be resolved and I am glad they have taken at least the first step. I do love it that the priest was not intimidated in the least by Julia and I think she was too.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 21, 2014 19:38:11 GMT
Oooh - I've never heard that expression "nervous as a virgin in a whorehouse"- no wonder I didn't pick it up! But William has been in whorehouses before. This was the "best" whorehouse in town - presumably an equivalent to The Music Academy, and William had no problems there. I'd be curious to see how "nervous" William was in the movie version where he met Ettie. In any case, I'm persuaded he only became nervous when he was directly propositioned. Maybe this is because part of his mind is considering it. Maybe it's hard to be such a proper gentleman, and he's been holding out for a loooooooooong time. He doesn't want to be put in a position where his resole might crumble. I'm not arguing against William being a virgin - my feeling is he hasn't slept with anyone during the show run of Murdoch Mysteries (except possibly Anna in Walk on the Wild Side) - he possibly hasn't slept with anyone since he became engaged to Liza and started keeping himself "pure" for marriage. So no matter what, it's been a very long time of upholding "principles" for him. That "tapas" is brimming over! That's a very old expression. When William was in The Music Academy he was there to solve a murder, he was in his element. When he met Ettie he knew who she was and was comfortable with her. This is where the show references back to the movies. In the movies Murdoch has a 'somewhat' relationship with Ettie but pulls back because he's a cop, much to her disappointment. In GD he's not solving a murder and then he gets propositioned by a pretty, very forward, prostitute days(?) before the wedding that he's been saving himself for. His resolve must be sorely tested. I just had to rewatch that scene-BTW-by that point he was trying to solve a murder. But, I digress. It gets even funnier every time I watch it-I think William was being acutely reminded of his inexperience there, and it was very uncomfortable for him. He was possibly tempted as well, but it really highlights his lack of experience there. Plus, Brax trying not to laugh at him was gold.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 21, 2014 19:41:21 GMT
will have to watch again, life's tough. The one thing I got out of last night's ep is that Julia has finally considered William's feelings I've always thought she was an atheist she looked at William and said 'a gentleman?'. Now we know how she looks on William and I'm liking what I'm seeing. hahahha, life is soooooooooooo tough isn't it! And soon you will have wiggly puppies to boot! I could hear the collective fan squee around the world when Julia crossed a bridge to do something for William. I knew you'd love that part. I think Julia is agnostic if not an athiest. I've been reading a lot about science/scientist in that era, and the rapid shifts in knowledge of the universe was seriously challenging to traditional religious beliefs. A lot of scientists felt they paid lip service to religion merely to keep up the social order. After being immersed in that scientific worldview, Julia needed some prompting to consider the religious worldview again. Her mind seems open though. The part I want to rewatch: she came at the priest as if she felt religious belief might be psychologically harming William. I also need to rewatch what look Julia gave William when Bat said (scoffingly) "gentle--man"! She's seen JungleJustice!William in action! It's about time Julia did something for William, he's always compromising for her. It was a bit late but a biggie in my mind. I don't think she thought religious belief is psychologically harming William, just that god is allowing people to suffer when 'he' has the power to prevent all suffering and cruelty. We don't see her face as he says it but as he walks away the camera shows her not very impressed.
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