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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 5:35:33 GMT
I did. I just wondered what the secrecy was about. Nothing in these promos that gave too much away. I thought there might have been another one that did. I think the secrecy at the time was because they didn't want people to know Brackenreid was back. The photos of him on set hadn't been seen then. Now it's fairly common knowledge. Note there are no scenes with him in the fan expo trailer. Ah, I see. So long as they bring him back, even if in a wheelchair or straightjacket. If his mouth is working then I'm happy  . |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 5:37:20 GMT
William would never have made it to the alter with Enid anyway. She mothered him too much and her fear of pain didn't allow her to see the man in that suit. William made it clear he liked to pose as if he could take a lot of pain (though he did cringe at that needle!). But to be fair Julia had a lot more time to observe William and see what his reaction to too much mothering would be. Julia took the no-nonsense approach instead. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 5:39:25 GMT
Dull, I guess that's a good description of Edna. I took an instant dislike to her in Power and have never got over it, not sure why. I wonder if they realized the can of worms they were opening up with the ROD ep. Remarriage definitely doesn't do it for me! I think the visions have been promising us a son for William all along. The writers just need to find a way to follow through on the promise they keep making.  |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 5:40:45 GMT
William would never have made it to the alter with Enid anyway. She mothered him too much and her fear of pain didn't allow her to see the man in that suit. William made it clear he liked to pose as if he could take a lot of pain (though he did cringe at that needle!). But to be fair Julia had a lot more time to observe William and see what his reaction to too much mothering would be. Julia took the no-nonsense approach instead. You've lost me snacky  . |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 5:42:01 GMT
Julia has always been clear that she can’t have children. She has not minced her words about that. As a woman and a doctor, you would think she would know the difference between can’t and may not be able to. Julia can't predict future medical advancements, though. Her certainty is limited by what she knows. Besides, Julia is kind of famous for jumping to wrong conclusions.  |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 5:46:03 GMT
William made it clear he liked to pose as if he could take a lot of pain (though he did cringe at that needle!). But to be fair Julia had a lot more time to observe William and see what his reaction to too much mothering would be. Julia took the no-nonsense approach instead. You've lost me snacky . If you watch the ep, William completely ignores the concept of being an invalid. When Julia mocks him being afraid of the needle, she indirectly indicates he toughed out his other injuries. Toward the end of his injuries William says he can stand the pain, and Julia says she knows he can. Julia seems to be heartless about his injuries, but perhaps she might be respecting William's choice to "not need mothering". |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 5:55:19 GMT
I don’t watch ROD but tried to watch the crossover ep ‘cause of Bill Murdoch. Didn’t like that one either. Gave up before it was over. Well, they can’t have William’s biological son, and subsequently all his decendants, as illegitimate. Julia has always been clear that she can’t have children. She has not minced her words about that. As a woman and a doctor, you would think she would know the difference between can’t and may not be able to. Until the MM/ROD crossover the most I'd seen were the trailers and it looked totally silly. The crossover confirmed exactly that. I did enjoy the MM ep but that was written by the MM team, I'm guessing the ROD ep was written by their team and lived up to my expectations. They could have them as illegitimate but it wouldn't ring true. There are many people that are told they can't have children and do, a friend's aunt had 13 after being told she'd never have any. Perhaps this could happen to Julia after all she hasn't actually tried to conceive since the abortion. I liked the ROM especially getting to meet George's aunts. MM writers are top notch and I enjoyed the MM episode. I didn't like the ROD. I think you're right - their own writers would have written theirs. That may just be hoping against hope by us fans. Don't forget Julia didn't have a straightforward abortion. Julia and Dr. Tash knew what he had to do to save her life. They both strike me as very intelligent people and have had all these years to revise their initial conclusions. He may have had to do a double hyst. to fix her up. If so, she will never be able to conceive. Julia has been with other men since then. She's even been married. Why wouldn't she have tried to conceive? She wasn't exactly waiting for William all of that time. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 6:05:50 GMT
You've lost me snacky . If you watch the ep, William completely ignores the concept of being an invalid. When Julia mocks him being afraid of the needle, she indirectly indicates he toughed out his other injuries. Toward the end of his injuries William says he can stand the pain, and Julia says she knows he can. Julia seems to be heartless about his injuries, but perhaps she might be respecting William's choice to "not need mothering". You've got me wrong, snacky. Read my post again. I was not talking about Julia or Convalescence. I just meant Enid was too afraid of the pain of breakup, not just for herself but for her son, when the inevitable happens and William eventually goes back to Julia. Because of that, she wasn't willing to try with William or give him the time he needed. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 6:19:54 GMT
If you watch the ep, William completely ignores the concept of being an invalid. When Julia mocks him being afraid of the needle, she indirectly indicates he toughed out his other injuries. Toward the end of his injuries William says he can stand the pain, and Julia says she knows he can. Julia seems to be heartless about his injuries, but perhaps she might be respecting William's choice to "not need mothering". You've got me wrong, snacky. Read my post again. I was not talking about Julia or Convalescence. I just meant Enid was too afraid of the pain of breakup, not just for herself but for her son, when the inevitable happens and William eventually goes back to Julia. Because of that, she wasn't willing to try with William or give him the time he needed. The only part I was responding to is the idea that Enid was too mothering, and that was a turn off for William. Previously I thought Julia had taken another step away from William in that episode by being a bit mean to him, but what you said made me think that actually Julia was respecting how William wanted to be treated when he was physically weak. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 6:24:37 GMT
He may have had to do a double hyst. to fix her up. If so, she will never be able to conceive. Julia has been with other men since then. She's even been married. Why wouldn't she have tried to conceive? She wasn't exactly waiting for William all of that time. Julia may need some sort of procedure before she can conceive - that's why she hasn't conceived yet. Neither Julia nor Dr. Tash may know about that procedure yet. Maybe it hasn't been invented yet. That's why they haven't held out hope. There has been no indication at all that Julia had a double hysterectomy. Or any hysterectomy. For all we know, the issue may be she just has a lot of scarring blocking her womb. Or perhaps, the fact she hasn't conceived yet led to the wrong conclusions why. They didn't have a lot of advanced medical imaging yet: just a lot of speculation. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 6:48:29 GMT
I think the secrecy at the time was because they didn't want people to know Brackenreid was back. The photos of him on set hadn't been seen then. Now it's fairly common knowledge. Note there are no scenes with him in the fan expo trailer. Ah, I see. So long as they bring him back, even if in a wheelchair or straightjacket. If his mouth is working then I'm happy . Did you see the preview at the MME? He was in a couple of the scenes. No need for secrecy now but there still seem to be some people that don't know that yet. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 6:58:04 GMT
Ah, I see. So long as they bring him back, even if in a wheelchair or straightjacket. If his mouth is working then I'm happy . Did you see the preview at the MME? He was in a couple of the scenes. No need for secrecy now but there still seem to be some people that don't know that yet. Really?? Was he okay? Thanks for bringing me some peace tonight . No I didn't see the MME preview. That's what they must have been trying to hide. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 7:00:50 GMT
Did you see the preview at the MME? He was in a couple of the scenes. No need for secrecy now but there still seem to be some people that don't know that yet. Really?? Was he okay? Thanks for bringing me some peace tonight . No I didn't see the MME preview. That's what they must have been trying to hide. Trust me he's fine, also riding a horse which we've never seen before. I think that's what they didn't want to get out at least too soon, it would have ruined the cliffhanger from S7. They couldn't have got rid of Brackenreid, there'd be a mutiny!  |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 7:13:00 GMT
Really?? Was he okay? Thanks for bringing me some peace tonight . No I didn't see the MME preview. That's what they must have been trying to hide. Trust me he's fine, also riding a horse which we've never seen before. I think that's what they didn't want to get out at least too soon, it would have ruined the cliffhanger from S7. They couldn't have got rid of Brackenreid, there'd be a mutiny! Woo hoo!! Go Brackenreid. He sure needs some horsepower. I am soooo happy. Ta very much. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 7:15:16 GMT
Dull, I guess that's a good description of Edna. I took an instant dislike to her in Power and have never got over it, not sure why. I wonder if they realized the can of worms they were opening up with the ROD ep. Remarriage definitely doesn't do it for me! I think the visions have been promising us a son for William all along. The writers just need to find a way to follow through on the promise they keep making. But they could still adopt, and have a descendent that way. Just saying. |
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