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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 7:18:17 GMT
You've lost me snacky  . If you watch the ep, William completely ignores the concept of being an invalid. When Julia mocks him being afraid of the needle, she indirectly indicates he toughed out his other injuries. Toward the end of his injuries William says he can stand the pain, and Julia says she knows he can. Julia seems to be heartless about his injuries, but perhaps she might be respecting William's choice to "not need mothering". Maybe not mothering, but I bet William would put up with some fussing if it were Julia- but not too much. But i don't think that would extend to others-it's Julia specific. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 7:21:13 GMT
Really?? Was he okay? Thanks for bringing me some peace tonight  . No I didn't see the MME preview. That's what they must have been trying to hide. Trust me he's fine, also riding a horse which we've never seen before. I think that's what they didn't want to get out at least too soon, it would have ruined the cliffhanger from S7. They couldn't have got rid of Brackenreid, there'd be a mutiny!  Yes-that's news to me as well. I suspected it, but confirmation is good. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 7:24:20 GMT
But they could still adopt, and have a descendent that way. Just saying. But he wouldn't be the spitting image of William. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 7:34:38 GMT
If you watch the ep, William completely ignores the concept of being an invalid. When Julia mocks him being afraid of the needle, she indirectly indicates he toughed out his other injuries. Toward the end of his injuries William says he can stand the pain, and Julia says she knows he can. Julia seems to be heartless about his injuries, but perhaps she might be respecting William's choice to "not need mothering". Maybe not mothering, but I bet William would put up with some fussing if it were Julia- but not too much. But i don't think that would extend to others-it's Julia specific. I'm talking in broader terms, not just spoon-feeding him and fussing over him when he was unwell. In Murdoch dot com, she freaked out, understandably, when she thought the killer would come after her son. She is an ordinary citizen and not used to criminals the way William is. The way she spoke to him like a mother who got mad at her son for doing something she already told him not to do and now it went wrong. She was like an overbearing headmistress. I think lovemondays might explain this better than me. She seems to feel the same way I do about this issue. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 17:15:36 GMT
Ah, I see. So long as they bring him back, even if in a wheelchair or straightjacket. If his mouth is working then I'm happy  . Did you see the preview at the MME? He was in a couple of the scenes. No need for secrecy now but there still seem to be some people that don't know that yet. I think that was probably the secret. I didn't know that. That's a relief. The notion the O'Sheas were still at large had me worried. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 17:17:13 GMT
Really?? Was he okay? Thanks for bringing me some peace tonight . No I didn't see the MME preview. That's what they must have been trying to hide. Trust me he's fine, also riding a horse which we've never seen before. I think that's what they didn't want to get out at least too soon, it would have ruined the cliffhanger from S7. They couldn't have got rid of Brackenreid, there'd be a mutiny! Maybe he was promoted. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 17:23:06 GMT
Maybe not mothering, but I bet William would put up with some fussing if it were Julia- but not too much. But i don't think that would extend to others-it's Julia specific. Perhaps after they are married: but while he's still trying to impress her, I think William would want Julia to regard him as being able to tough out any pain. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 18:07:34 GMT
Okay, on the MM FB page, this is the sneak preview they put up: www.facebook.com/video.php?v=684666224945176So, it looks like the protest and dock rumble will happen the same episode. I wonder if they'll be edited together like they were in the preview? *gleefully rubs hands together in anticipation of angst* |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 18:10:29 GMT
Okay, on the MM FB page, this is the sneak preview they put up: www.facebook.com/video.php?v=684666224945176So, it looks like the protest and dock rumble will happen the same episode. I wonder if they'll be edited together like they were in the preview? *gleefully rubs hands together in anticipation of angst* The protest and dock rumble were in the MME preview, exactly the same edit. I was disappointed that the CBC preview last night showed more of last season than the new. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 18:14:10 GMT
Okay, on the MM FB page, this is the sneak preview they put up: www.facebook.com/video.php?v=684666224945176So, it looks like the protest and dock rumble will happen the same episode. I wonder if they'll be edited together like they were in the preview? *gleefully rubs hands together in anticipation of angst* The protest and dock rumble were in the MME preview, exactly the same edit. I was disappointed that the CBC preview last night showed more of last season than the new. Likewise-I was a little disappointed about that as well. But there had been some debate somewhere on here on whether or not the protests and rumble would be in the same episode. This seems to say that they will be. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 18:22:14 GMT
Okay, on the MM FB page, this is the sneak preview they put up: www.facebook.com/video.php?v=684666224945176So, it looks like the protest and dock rumble will happen the same episode. I wonder if they'll be edited together like they were in the preview? *gleefully rubs hands together in anticipation of angst* Oh my goodness, you could be right about William and Julia not being there for each other! I thought there was supposed to be a separate episode devoted to women's suffrage.  That also means Brackenreid may only be "out of commission" in the first episode. And there's not that time-lag in the identification of the O'Shea brothers that was bothering me. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 18:42:59 GMT
Okay, on the MM FB page, this is the sneak preview they put up: www.facebook.com/video.php?v=684666224945176So, it looks like the protest and dock rumble will happen the same episode. I wonder if they'll be edited together like they were in the preview? *gleefully rubs hands together in anticipation of angst* Oh my goodness, you could be right about William and Julia not being there for each other! I thought there was supposed to be a separate episode devoted to women's suffrage. That also means Brackenreid may only be "out of commission" in the first episode. And there's not that time-lag in the identification of the O'Shea brothers that was bothering me. I know! The angst possibilities are strong! |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 19:05:09 GMT
Oh my goodness, you could be right about William and Julia not being there for each other! I thought there was supposed to be a separate episode devoted to women's suffrage. That also means Brackenreid may only be "out of commission" in the first episode. And there's not that time-lag in the identification of the O'Shea brothers that was bothering me. I know! The angst possibilities are strong! I was wondering about that possibility too. If you look at IMDB it has the cast for the eps that are up and Thomas Craig's name doesn't appear until the third episode. I really didn't want him to be out that long but with Slorach appearing in two eps I guess he must be. |
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Post by lovemondays on Sept 23, 2014 22:39:18 GMT
Maybe not mothering, but I bet William would put up with some fussing if it were Julia- but not too much. But i don't think that would extend to others-it's Julia specific. I'm talking in broader terms, not just spoon-feeding him and fussing over him when he was unwell. In Murdoch dot com, she freaked out, understandably, when she thought the killer would come after her son. She is an ordinary citizen and not used to criminals the way William is. The way she spoke to him like a mother who got mad at her son for doing something she already told him not to do and now it went wrong. She was like an overbearing headmistress. I think lovemondays might explain this better than me. She seems to feel the same way I do about this issue. I think the stumbling block in this discussion is where this episode happens within the scope of W/J's relationship. It was not long after 'Shades of Gray' so they were both still treading that dicey line between their feelings for each other and their falling out over the abortion issue (Julia's doing). William was definitely hurt (in body and soul) but wasn't willing to acknowledge how much he hurt even to his doctor, the woman he loves but is on the outs with. With respect to the needle...did you see the size of that thing? I don't blame him for making a bit of a fuss. My take is that William would have been happy to be pampered and fussed a bit over by Julia if they were together. Enid just went into 'mother' mode with William. I think he was too gobsmacked by her fussing to know how to react, particularly with their relationship being so new. Perhaps it was a measure of how sick William really was that his natural boundaries were so lowered and breachable by Enid's mothering. It set the stage for Enid's surprise and distress with the difference between the 'Convalescence' William and the 'Murdoch.com' William. The first she could manage/control, the other not. She's a woman who wants control but will let her man think he's wearing the pants. How'd I do ziggy? |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 22:59:06 GMT
Enid just went into 'mother' mode with William. I think he was too gobsmacked by her fussing to know how to react, particularly with their relationship being so new. Perhaps it was a measure of how sick William really was that his natural boundaries were so lowered and breachable by Enid's mothering. It set the stage for Enid's surprise and distress with the difference between the 'Convalescence' William and the 'Murdoch.com' William. The first she could manage/control, the other not. She's a woman who wants control but will let her man think he's wearing the pants. You know maybe William actually liked being mothered whilst sick. He's not been mothered since he was 8, perhaps it was nice to be pampered for a change. I wasn't comfortable with it, I thought the same as you but for William it was something different. I'm not sure Enid would even let her man think he was wearing the pants, she seemed like a control freak to me. Did you notice how Julia was intimidated by her on the carriage ride. |
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