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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 19:02:28 GMT
Looked like whiskey in the glass in the bar. Whiskey looks the same as water!  Not the same as the water from my faucet! Now if it had been gin but I don't see William as a gin drinker. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 19:05:38 GMT
In the latter part of the evening (fuzzily remembered?) William is quite the Casanova. But Julia also has to ask him to stop, which can't sit too comfortably in his memory. Maybe that's why he's never tried it again. Once bitten twice shy. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 20:18:35 GMT
Whiskey looks the same as water! Not the same as the water from my faucet! Now if it had been gin but I don't see William as a gin drinker. If he was drinking the hard stuff, I'm taking it as more evidence of magic homburg theory! |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 20:23:16 GMT
In the latter part of the evening (fuzzily remembered?) William is quite the Casanova. But Julia also has to ask him to stop, which can't sit too comfortably in his memory. Maybe that's why he's never tried it again. Once bitten twice shy. Yes, now I'm wondering what Julia remembers, too! She might remember something very cute, like some shy kissing, and then William passing out and muttering about his Casanova fantasy hahaha. Then Julia asking him to stop turns into something like the "angel" side of his personality telling the "devil" side to get a grip! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 12, 2014 16:54:03 GMT
It's a myth that absinthe causes hallucinations. It was started by the wine industry when drinking absinthe became popular. They wanted to scare people off as they weren't drinking enough wine for the wineries liking. Agreed-it got me tipsy rather quickly, but it didn't impart hallucinations. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 12, 2014 17:13:53 GMT
It's a myth that absinthe causes hallucinations. It was started by the wine industry when drinking absinthe became popular. They wanted to scare people off as they weren't drinking enough wine for the wineries liking. Agreed-it got me tipsy rather quickly, but it didn't impart hallucinations. It doesn't have to impart full-brown hallucinations - just memory adjustments and some problems divining the line between memory and dream. For instance, it would be a hallucination if Julia were suddenly wearing a red lingerie and lured William into the secret underground fairyland beneath the park for their torrid rendez-vous. But William can be reasonably sure of what they were wearing, some making out did take place, and Julia had to tell him to back off. Interestingly, we don't know if he can remember how they got home that night. Julia may have had to call them a carriage! |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 12, 2014 17:24:00 GMT
It's a myth that absinthe causes hallucinations. It was started by the wine industry when drinking absinthe became popular. They wanted to scare people off as they weren't drinking enough wine for the wineries liking. Agreed-it got me tipsy rather quickly, but it didn't impart hallucinations. It is rather high in alcohol, 50-75% I believe. Wouldn't want to drink too much. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 12, 2014 17:49:18 GMT
Agreed-it got me tipsy rather quickly, but it didn't impart hallucinations. It is rather high in alcohol, 50-75% I believe. Wouldn't want to drink too much. I can't remember how much the stuff was at the restaurant, but Mata Hari (the bottle I got for my birthday) is 60% alcohol/120 proof. In theory, Julia's tolerance for alcohol should be higher than William's, so she should have a clearer memory of that night and also be in a better position to have said "okay, you've had enough"... I do agree William needs a little something to get past his inhibitions, though!
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 12, 2014 18:50:18 GMT
I totally agree. I was watching SotWS again earlier ( per our discussion) and William is more himself around Anna-as though he's not as nervous around her. There's definitely a chemistry between them, and I'm starting to believe that William has a lot of fun with her, but he knows she's not the one for him. William and Julia are two nerds in love, and they can totally geek out around one another and get one another. Anna, I think would tolerate his eccentricities, but I don't think she'd ever get them or even share in them. Julia wants to explore and be a part of the world with William, Anna will just passively enjoy the ride. William seems to hold himself back around Julia, almost as if he's afraid the true William will scare her off-something he doesn't want to do, so he behaves himself. Julia, on the other hand, it's dying to get at that William-try as he might to hide it, she can smell it, and she wants it -even to the point where she's baiting him big time during season 7. I agree, much as Anna would like the relationship to go somewhere for William she will always be second best. He has more of an intellectual romance with Julia and that's where William is comfortable, unfortunately for Julia, who I think would prefer him to be more like he is with Anna. I doubt Julia would be scared off if he became the real William, I'm thinking she'd find it quite a turn on, she's been trying to bring it out for years. Though she did have a taste of it with the absinthe ... hmm ... perhaps he was too much for her and that's why she poured cold water on his desires and now she's regretting it as he took it to heart. Dr. Tash did say she was a pistol! Poor Julia! She was only concerned about diseases, and it has William thinking he can't have her before marriage. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 12, 2014 18:56:53 GMT
Help me, which line? *is confused* Pete had earlier made some remarks about people being over-organized, so when Sam invited him into her house, she warned him not to look at the bookshelves while they were kissing. (Her books were all alphabetized and color-coded or something). I've largely blocked the entire Sam/Pete relationship from my memory. Not because I didn't want her pining away after a man she couldn't have at that time, but because of who he was. The Sam Carter in my head would have kicked that joker's a$$ as soon as she found out he was stalking her, and then made him clean her bathroom afterwards. Meanwhile, Jack would have been standing to the side, watching the whole thing while drinking a beer and saying "atta girl". |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 12, 2014 18:58:48 GMT
I know! They both had this nervous "are we really going to do this?" look of awe just before she closed the gap. I love that first one, and I'm not questioning the reality of that one at all! Julia does have to reel in that first one, though. In the latter part of the evening (fuzzily remembered?) William is quite the Casanova. But Julia also has to ask him to stop, which can't sit too comfortably in his memory. No, it can't. Which is why he doesn't drink anymore around her, and why he has behaved himself around her. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 12, 2014 19:01:10 GMT
Hmm maybe William is afraid of becoming like his father not because of something his father did but because of something William did while drunk? I noticed in Murdoch of the Klondike he wasn't averse to having a drink, at least while he was 'Call of the Wild' William. As soon as the suit went on he was back to water. Interesting...you are quite the eagle eye. I hadn't caught that, but maybe as a miner, he was there to escape his past. But, once he goes back to being a detective, he's got to be clearheaded. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 12, 2014 21:10:04 GMT
I noticed in Murdoch of the Klondike he wasn't averse to having a drink, at least while he was 'Call of the Wild' William. As soon as the suit went on he was back to water. Interesting...you are quite the eagle eye. I hadn't caught that, but maybe as a miner, he was there to escape his past. But, once he goes back to being a detective, he's got to be clearheaded. I suspect you're right but he'd also mentally returned to the old staid William. Seems clothes do maketh the man. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 12, 2014 21:12:05 GMT
Poor Julia! She was only concerned about diseases, and it has William thinking he can't have her before marriage. If William really wanted to pursue that point I doubt he would have dropped it after one drunken picnic. I think Julia gave him an out there. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 12, 2014 21:14:32 GMT
Pete had earlier made some remarks about people being over-organized, so when Sam invited him into her house, she warned him not to look at the bookshelves while they were kissing. (Her books were all alphabetized and color-coded or something). I've largely blocked the entire Sam/Pete relationship from my memory. Not because I didn't want her pining away after a man she couldn't have at that time, but because of who he was. The Sam Carter in my head would have kicked that joker's a$$ as soon as she found out he was stalking her, and then made him clean her bathroom afterwards. Meanwhile, Jack would have been standing to the side, watching the whole thing while drinking a beer and saying "atta girl". lol. Well, the bookshelf line was still great. Jack was really too old for her. In the end he was kind of too old for any of them, and I think he would have been kind of a jerk as a boyfriend. Best friend, maybe, but not boyfriend. I converted to Daniel/Vala later. |
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