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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 21:29:47 GMT
It's definitely mine. Never fails to make me crack up. I just love the way she delivers that last word. I can't wait to lord that episode over Eclair. I think we will get to it by Saturday!
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Post by ziggy on Sept 23, 2014 23:43:53 GMT
As well as the beauty of the Canadian Shield. I have to say I always loved the way he was so uncomfortable knowing what the painting was and not being able to admit it. Trust Julia to know exactly what it was. This really made me laugh. First Brackenreid saying it looked upside down and his 7 year old lad could do better and then George saying he thought he saw pyramids, lol! I was still laughing at the guys when Julia’s scene came on and all my wheels came off. This was a blockbuster episode for me. The whole episode was great from start to finish. I have seen it like a million times and that scene with Julia never fails to crack me up. William looked like he wanted the floor to break open so he could fall right in and disappear, Canadian Shield and all. Landscape indeed! He didn’t know where to hide himself, right from the moment he sighted Julia studying the painting.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 15:02:35 GMT
Sooo, I think I've mentioned it before, but Hubby has become quite taken with MM, and we marathoned 6 eps tonight, from Dinosaur Fever to I, Murdoch. He caught me watching some season 6 episodes, and decided to watch them again in order. During TGM, he actually stopped the video and replayed the ultimate perv!William scene (Snacky's fave) and turned and asked me "Did he just scope out her ass in front of a dead girl?" Why yes he did. I also may be destroying my duality theory, but also in TGM, watch his interactions with Ettie. I think they've been together (in the biblical sense) in the past (maybe the logging camp?). From the scene where William greets her by removing his hat, bowing and taking her hand to kiss it (the only other person he's done this with is Julia) and how they use their first names with each other. There's a definite past there-in fact, it seems to me how you greet an old lover when running into them. She's also comfortably familiar with him, touching him, kissing him on the cheek, and he doesn't seem that uncomfortable with it-until the end when he's clearly involved with Julia by that point. I wonder if we'll see Ettie again this season? I'd like some more story there. I know she featured in the movies, but not having access to them, I don't know how exactly.
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Post by lovemondays on Sept 24, 2014 16:19:42 GMT
I love that hubby is getting into it!! Maybe you can get him to join the discussion...we need more male input!
Re Ettie. She is a character from Maureen's book "Except the Dying". Ettie and her friend Alice Black were prostitutes who were the first to come across a dead young woman in the lane behind their tenement house. They stripped the girl for her nice clothes and hid them but a key clue to the motive was with the clothing. True to form, William pursued the lost garments thereby meeting Ettie and Alice. Unfortunately, the murderer also found them and Alice ended up also dying. It was William who saved Ettie from the same fate. Ettie wanted to show her gratitude the only way she knew how but William gracefully declined. He always treated Ettie with dignity and respect despite her profession, something she had never experienced. That was the genesis of their friendship but it was never physical. In TGM she's moved up in the world to become the madam of a high class brothel who naturally only wants to deal with the very fair and honest William. This was confirmed by William when Julia was being catty about Ettie in the morgue.
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Post by snacky on Sept 24, 2014 16:22:56 GMT
During TGM, he actually stopped the video and replayed the ultimate perv!William scene (Snacky's fave) and turned and asked me "Did he just scope out her ass in front of a dead girl?" Why yes he did. I also may be destroying my duality theory, but also in TGM, watch his interactions with Ettie. I think they've been together (in the biblical sense) in the past (maybe the logging camp?). From the scene where William greets her by removing his hat, bowing and taking her hand to kiss it (the only other person he's done this with is Julia) and how they use their first names with each other. There's a definite past there-in fact, it seems to me how you greet an old lover when running into them. That scene is really noticeable. Eclair also caught it without any nudging from me. He caught the glance at Anna, too, lol. The TGM one is the most fascinating though, because it really does look like William is speculating in detail about something. I think William met Ettie during one of his earlier cases, and it's in one of the prequel movies. I would agree about the Biblical sense except I've decided William was officially on the wagon once he started studying for the civil service exams.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 16:35:22 GMT
During TGM, he actually stopped the video and replayed the ultimate perv!William scene (Snacky's fave) and turned and asked me "Did he just scope out her ass in front of a dead girl?" Why yes he did. I also may be destroying my duality theory, but also in TGM, watch his interactions with Ettie. I think they've been together (in the biblical sense) in the past (maybe the logging camp?). From the scene where William greets her by removing his hat, bowing and taking her hand to kiss it (the only other person he's done this with is Julia) and how they use their first names with each other. There's a definite past there-in fact, it seems to me how you greet an old lover when running into them. That scene is really noticeable. Eclair also caught it without any nudging from me. He caught the glance at Anna, too, lol. The TGM one is the most fascinating though, because it really does look like William is speculating in detail about something. I think William met Ettie during one of his earlier cases, and it's in one of the prequel movies. I would agree about the Biblical sense except I've decided William was officially on the wagon once he started studying for the civil service exams. Yeah, I've been careful not to say much because I want his honest reactions. He's caught quite a bit of the same stuff we have (although not to our level of obsession analysis. Although he'll probably never admit it, I think he's shipping them too. While we were watching "I, Murdoch" he patted my hand and told me "Don't worry, I'm pretty sure they get back together."
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 16:36:44 GMT
During TGM, he actually stopped the video and replayed the ultimate perv!William scene (Snacky's fave) and turned and asked me "Did he just scope out her ass in front of a dead girl?" Why yes he did. I also may be destroying my duality theory, but also in TGM, watch his interactions with Ettie. I think they've been together (in the biblical sense) in the past (maybe the logging camp?). From the scene where William greets her by removing his hat, bowing and taking her hand to kiss it (the only other person he's done this with is Julia) and how they use their first names with each other. There's a definite past there-in fact, it seems to me how you greet an old lover when running into them. That scene is really noticeable. Eclair also caught it without any nudging from me. He caught the glance at Anna, too, lol. The TGM one is the most fascinating though, because it really does look like William is speculating in detail about something. A woman bent over a bed? What's to speculate about?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 16:42:07 GMT
I love that hubby is getting into it!! Maybe you can get him to join the discussion...we need more male input! Re Ettie. She is a character from Maureen's book "Except the Dying". Ettie and her friend Alice Black were prostitutes who were the first to come across a dead young woman in the lane behind their tenement house. They stripped the girl for her nice clothes and hid them but a key clue to the motive was with the clothing. True to form, William pursued the lost garments thereby meeting Ettie and Alice. Unfortunately, the murderer also found them and Alice ended up also dying. It was William who saved Ettie from the same fate. Ettie wanted to show her gratitude the only way she knew how but William gracefully declined. He always treated Ettie with dignity and respect despite her profession, something she had never experienced. That was the genesis of their friendship but it was never physical. In TGM she's moved up in the world to become the madam of a high class brothel who naturally only wants to deal with the very fair and honest William. This was confirmed by William when Julia was being catty about Ettie in the morgue. I'll try. But he'll probably tell me that overanalysis is my thing. Which, it definitely is. That explains things with Ettie-thanks for that backstory. I was curious about that.
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Post by lovemondays on Sept 24, 2014 16:42:23 GMT
That scene is really noticeable. Eclair also caught it without any nudging from me. He caught the glance at Anna, too, lol. The TGM one is the most fascinating though, because it really does look like William is speculating in detail about something. A woman bent over a bed? What's to speculate about? We all agree that he hasn't been getting any/much action, by choice. It doesn't mean he has no appetite. There's nothing wrong with looking...just don't get caught.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 16:46:05 GMT
A woman bent over a bed? What's to speculate about? We all agree that he hasn't been getting any/much action, by choice. It doesn't mean he has no appetite. There's nothing wrong with looking...just don't get caught. Indeed-but I think Julia knows his game. Actually, one of my favorite things about the way W is portrayed are those little clues about the man underneath the impeccable suit.
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Post by lovemondays on Sept 24, 2014 16:52:02 GMT
We all agree that he hasn't been getting any/much action, by choice. It doesn't mean he has no appetite. There's nothing wrong with looking...just don't get caught. Indeed-but I think Julia knows his game. Actually, one of my favorite things about the way W is portrayed are those little clues about the man underneath the impeccable suit. She knows his game alright...and likes it. It's one of the reasons that they are a good match for each other. They are openly willing to take turns with who's in the lead. That was an almost unheard of at the time. Don't you just want to rip that impeccable suit off???!!!
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 16:52:29 GMT
During TGM, he actually stopped the video and replayed the ultimate perv!William scene (Snacky's fave) and turned and asked me "Did he just scope out her ass in front of a dead girl?" Why yes he did. I also may be destroying my duality theory, but also in TGM, watch his interactions with Ettie. I think they've been together (in the biblical sense) in the past (maybe the logging camp?). From the scene where William greets her by removing his hat, bowing and taking her hand to kiss it (the only other person he's done this with is Julia) and how they use their first names with each other. There's a definite past there-in fact, it seems to me how you greet an old lover when running into them. That scene is really noticeable. Eclair also caught it without any nudging from me. He caught the glance at Anna, too, lol. The TGM one is the most fascinating though, because it really does look like William is speculating in detail about something. I think William met Ettie during one of his earlier cases, and it's in one of the prequel movies. I would agree about the Biblical sense except I've decided William was officially on the wagon once he started studying for the civil service exams. Yeah, I've decided that if he does have a past, it was before he became a lawman and began his upward mobility.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 17:01:52 GMT
Indeed-but I think Julia knows his game. Actually, one of my favorite things about the way W is portrayed are those little clues about the man underneath the impeccable suit. She knows his game alright...and likes it. It's one of the reasons that they are a good match for each other. They are openly willing to take turns with who's in the lead. That was an almost unheard of at the time. Don't you just want to rip that impeccable suit off???!!! Agreed. He probably loves it when a woman's on top. But yes, that's why they're so great together and so fun to watch. Like the most recent scene from MME-how cute was that? I think it was Talbottrail and I were discussing that we had a particular fondness for William with his jacket off-it's just so tantalizing to see him just that little bit unputtogether-even better if the sleeves are rolled up. Plus, it's such a great view of his ass. Maybe less is more? Although I loved the scene of him in just his undershirt in "Last Train to Kingston"-he's so vulnerable there. But, I'm certainly not saying no to shirtless William.
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Post by lovemondays on Sept 24, 2014 17:09:29 GMT
I think it was Talbottrail and I were discussing that we had a particular fondness for William with his jacket off-it's just so tantalizing to see him just that little bit unputtogether-even better if the sleeves are rolled up. Plus, it's such a great view of his ass. Maybe less is more? Although I loved the scene of him in just his undershirt in "Last Train to Kingston"-he's so vulnerable there. But, I'm certainly not saying no to shirtless William. Those observations fit right in with snacky's theory of the homburg . I hadn't made the distinction between jacketlees vs shirtless in terms of vulnerability but I think you're both bang on. Less is definitely more with MM. If it's all out there on the show what's left for us shippers to speculate about??
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 24, 2014 17:17:57 GMT
I think it was Talbottrail and I were discussing that we had a particular fondness for William with his jacket off-it's just so tantalizing to see him just that little bit unputtogether-even better if the sleeves are rolled up. Plus, it's such a great view of his ass. Maybe less is more? Although I loved the scene of him in just his undershirt in "Last Train to Kingston"-he's so vulnerable there. But, I'm certainly not saying no to shirtless William. Those observations fit right in with snacky's theory of the homburg . I hadn't made the distinction between jacketlees vs shirtless in terms of vulnerability but I think you're both bang on. Less is definitely more with MM. If it's all out there on the show what's left for us shippers to speculate about?? It seems that in William's case, clothes really do make the man. I was just telling my husband tonight that I suspect that's one of the reasons I enjoy the show so much-it's subtle, but it's definitely there. No, William's not telling Julia what he'd like to do her, and Julia's never said that she doesn't like it when William shows familiarity with other women, but their looks say it all. I think this is a key reason why I don't care for a lot of American TV. Less is more with me-it's hotter that way! Plus, yes, the speculation is fun!
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