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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:03:32 GMT
Maybe but people throw bricks through windows here too. In the context of political protests? That actually hit people? If there's someone in the way. I guess you didn't see the coverage of the G20 debacle a few years back. Anarchists mingled with the peaceful protestors and caused all kinds of trouble. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:03:54 GMT
In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... I was wondering the same thing. I would think he'd have to have his hands on to really notice as it's not obvious otherwise. Emily is more curvy than Julia, so even if she wasn't a "tight-lacer", you'd think it would be noticeable if she weren't wearing "foundation garments" of any sort... |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:04:44 GMT
No overt passes, but pretty much every other line of dialogue had a double meaning. At least, I kept getting that impression. Well, if that lady at the club picked up on it in like thirty seconds, and considering Emily is pretty observant herself, not to mention Lilian undressed her...I'd hope she'd have some clue of what was going on...but then again, it's often the ones closest to it that are the most blind. In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... No wonder he was so attracted so quickly.  Another random thought. Emily seems to attract abusive men. Her ex-fiance would have hurt her if George hadn't dropped from the rafters shown up when he did and Charlie got handsy too when he threatened her and Leslie was an asshole...so with the exception of George, it's no wonder she's decided to explore the other avenue now. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:05:13 GMT
I was wondering the same thing. I would think he'd have to have his hands on to really notice as it's not obvious otherwise. Emily is more curvy than Julia, so even if she wasn't a "tight-lacer", you'd think it would be noticeable if she weren't wearing "foundation garments" of any sort... I didn't notice anything tonight and I'm sure Georgina wouldn't be wearing one if she didn't have to. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:08:13 GMT
In the context of political protests? That actually hit people? If there's someone in the way. I guess you didn't see the coverage of the G20 debacle a few years back. Anarchist mingled with the peaceful protestors and caused all kinds of trouble. Hahaha, that's part of what happened here. And police/government infiltrators mingled with the anarchists, and people who wanted to make the protests look bad pretended to be anarchists, and then there was a whole class privilege dialogue over the pretenses of "peaceful protesters"...the players of this game probably are universal. Anyway, we're still rocking the protests here, and it doesn't help that the local police departments have purchased tanks and drones.  |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:09:30 GMT
In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... No wonder he was so attracted so quickly. Another random thought. Emily seems to attract abusive men. Her ex-fiance would have hurt her if George hadn't dropped from the rafters shown up when he did and Charlie got handsy too when he threatened her and Leslie was an asshole...so with the exception of George, it's no wonder she's decided to explore the other avenue now. Emily seems attracted to danger period. She does play the whole flatliners game. Perhaps there is some scary story from her childhood that will explain explain all that. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:12:11 GMT
Emily is more curvy than Julia, so even if she wasn't a "tight-lacer", you'd think it would be noticeable if she weren't wearing "foundation garments" of any sort... I didn't notice anything tonight and I'm sure Georgina wouldn't be wearing one if she didn't have to. She was probably playing out that fantasy for just one night. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:12:28 GMT
If there's someone in the way. I guess you didn't see the coverage of the G20 debacle a few years back. Anarchist mingled with the peaceful protestors and caused all kinds of trouble. Hahaha, that's part of what happened here. And police/government infiltrators mingled with the anarchists, and people who wanted to make the protests look bad pretended to be anarchists, and then there was a whole class privilege dialogue over the pretenses of "peaceful protesters"...the players of this game probably are universal. Anyway, we're still rocking the protests here, and it doesn't help that the local police departments have purchased tanks and drones. I've always wondered why police, who are supposed to 'serve and protect' need tanks and armoured vehicles. I may like MM but I don't like cops, they've lost their way. Funnily enough my obedience trainer is a retired police chief ... but he's also a dog person...! |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:14:08 GMT
No wonder he was so attracted so quickly. Another random thought. Emily seems to attract abusive men. Her ex-fiance would have hurt her if George hadn't dropped from the rafters shown up when he did and Charlie got handsy too when he threatened her and Leslie was an asshole...so with the exception of George, it's no wonder she's decided to explore the other avenue now. Emily seems attracted to danger period. She does play the whole flatliners game. Perhaps there is some scary story from her childhood that will explain explain all that. Ah, well that WOULD explain why she had no chemistry with George (besides the whole Jonny being best buds with her husband thing). Poor Georgie!  Yeah perhaps, but based on how little back story we've gotten so far, I wouldn't hold my breath.  |
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Post by lizmc on Feb 17, 2015 7:14:47 GMT
That is more likely to be a reference to events in Toronto, though. We had large scale damage done in the G20 riots a couple of years ago and we have an anti-poverty group which occasionally protests and those have been known to get out of hand. There is plenty going on in the writers' own backyard to give them material.....
That's true - several people mentioned how the suffragette scuffle in On the Waterfront reminded them of the G20 riots. Did they also have the component of different age and interest groups fighting over the right protest "tactics"? The G20 riot was much more than a scuffle....as Hodge mentioned, there were anarchists mixed with the peaceful protestors and they caused a tremendous amount of damage to private businesses and police cars....there is still ongoing concern with the tactics the police used and criticism of the federal Government for holding G20 in that location in the first place.
All countries have instances of protesting and civil disobedience, and in most cases the causes are due to the unique circumstances of those countries.
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:15:24 GMT
Hahaha, that's part of what happened here. And police/government infiltrators mingled with the anarchists, and people who wanted to make the protests look bad pretended to be anarchists, and then there was a whole class privilege dialogue over the pretenses of "peaceful protesters"...the players of this game probably are universal. Anyway, we're still rocking the protests here, and it doesn't help that the local police departments have purchased tanks and drones. I've always wondered why police, who are supposed to 'serve and protect' need tanks and armoured vehicles. I may like MM but I don't like cops, they've lost their way. Funnily enough my obedience trainer is a retired police chief ... but he's also a dog person...! I love how William doesn't normally carry a gun. (Though the Magic Homburg seems to afford infinite protection and he is able to become the Murdochinator at will.)  |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:19:55 GMT
That's true - several people mentioned how the suffragette scuffle in On the Waterfront reminded them of the G20 riots. Did they also have the component of different age and interest groups fighting over the right protest "tactics"? The G20 riot was much more than a scuffle....as Hodge mentioned, there were anarchists mixed with the peaceful protestors and they caused a tremendous amount of damage to private businesses and police cars....there is still ongoing concern with the tactics the police used and criticism of the federal Government for holding G20 in that location in the first place. The Ferguson protests here have been pretty violent as well. MM only portrayed it as a scuffle because they tend to reduce everything to theatrics. Their waterfront "gang war" was also more or less a scuffle for the same reason. In real life there would be bloody pulp and brain matter flying around. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:21:54 GMT
I've always wondered why police, who are supposed to 'serve and protect' need tanks and armoured vehicles. I may like MM but I don't like cops, they've lost their way. Funnily enough my obedience trainer is a retired police chief ... but he's also a dog person...! I love how William doesn't normally carry a gun. (Though the Magic Homburg seems to afford infinite protection and he is able to become the Murdochinator at will.) That's because cops didn't carry them in Toronto back then. The cops in Britain didn't carry them when I lived there and it was several years later that a special unit carried them regularly because of where they were patrolling in the Manchester area. Not sure what they do now and don't really care. We were at Manchester airport in the late 90's and the cops were carrying AK47's, most unnerving, but that was because of IRA threats. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:22:09 GMT
Ah, well that WOULD explain why she had no chemistry with George (besides the whole Jonny being best buds with her husband thing). Poor Georgie! George was too safe a bet. I think that's why she was not-too-subtly frustrated with him all the time. She was almost as rude as Lillian. By the way, do you think Charlie's attempt to inform George that Emily was a sapphist went over George's head? George is a very observant dude, despite appearances... |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:22:24 GMT
I didn't notice anything tonight and I'm sure Georgina wouldn't be wearing one if she didn't have to. She was probably playing out that fantasy for just one night. These 100% accurate gifs beg to differ:     |
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