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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:23:45 GMT
That's because cops didn't carry them in Toronto back then. The cops in Britain didn't carry them when I lived there and it was several years later that a special unit carried them regularly because of where they were patrolling in the Manchester area. Not sure what they do now and don't really care. We were at Manchester airport in the late 90's and the cops were carrying AK47's, most unnerving, but that was because of IRA threats. I don't think police carried guns even when I was there. Was there ever an issue about it (besides the IRA and "terrorism")?
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:24:46 GMT
She was probably playing out that fantasy for just one night. These 100% accurate gifs beg to differ: Emily: "Nooooooooo - Julia had Lillian first!!!!" (and as eclair never tires of pointing out, Julia doesn't need the support anyway...)
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:28:23 GMT
That's because cops didn't carry them in Toronto back then. The cops in Britain didn't carry them when I lived there and it was several years later that a special unit carried them regularly because of where they were patrolling in the Manchester area. Not sure what they do now and don't really care. We were at Manchester airport in the late 90's and the cops were carrying AK47's, most unnerving, but that was because of IRA threats. I don't think police carried guns even when I was there. Was there ever an issue about it (besides the IRA and "terrorism")? Not to my knowledge but people didn't carry guns either back then. Handguns have always been illegal in Britain except in gun clubs where they have to be locked up (same in Canada actually though you wouldn't know it most of the time). Seems since Britain started a love affair with 'America' they started using guns in crime too.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:29:49 GMT
Ah, well that WOULD explain why she had no chemistry with George (besides the whole Jonny being best buds with her husband thing). Poor Georgie! George was too safe a bet. I think that's why she was not-too-subtly frustrated with him all the time. She was almost as rude as Lillian. By the way, do you think Charlie's attempt to inform George that Emily was a sapphist went over George's head? George is a very observant dude, despite appearances... Yeah, I always just figured she was bored with him. That doesn't excuse her coldness... I thought Charlie was going to flat out tell him. He probably noticed Lilian hanging around the morgue all the time and Emily not dating some other chap after Leslie...so it's conceivable that the wheels are turning, but I don't think it would have come into full being because he wouldn't want it to be true. Until/if he sees undeniable proof, I doubt he would believe it.
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Post by lizmc on Feb 17, 2015 7:31:49 GMT
The G20 riot was much more than a scuffle....as Hodge mentioned, there were anarchists mixed with the peaceful protestors and they caused a tremendous amount of damage to private businesses and police cars....there is still ongoing concern with the tactics the police used and criticism of the federal Government for holding G20 in that location in the first place. The Ferguson protests here have been pretty violent as well. MM only portrayed it as a scuffle because they tend to reduce everything to theatrics. Their waterfront "gang war" was also more or less a scuffle for the same reason. In real life there would be bloody pulp and brain matter flying around. Actually, one of the reasons the G20 riot shocked people so much is because civil disobedience on that scale is extremely rare in Canada. The portrayal of the action on both fronts in the On the Waterfront episodes is much more in keeping with what we are used to. The origin of the Ferguson protests is quite different than what we have experienced here.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:34:28 GMT
Emily: "Nooooooooo - Julia had Lillian first!!!!" (and as eclair never tires of pointing out, Julia doesn't need the support anyway...) It's late so I'm not getting emily's comment.... (well that's rude)
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 7:44:35 GMT
Peter Mitchell posted this on FB. I'm guessing it's kinda in response to this ep.
I invite all families to watch next week. The episode is about where to place your faith - in God, organized religion or your fellow man. We like to try and go everywhere on this show
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:48:56 GMT
I thought Charlie was going to flat out tell him. He probably noticed Lilian hanging around the morgue all the time and Emily not dating some other chap after Leslie...so it's conceivable that the wheels are turning, but I don't think it would have come into full being because he wouldn't want it to be true. Until/if he sees undeniable proof, I doubt he would believe it. That conversation was actually a little confusing. Perhaps he was fishing for more information from George. Then he changed his mind because George was too low class to know anything about Emily...?
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:51:12 GMT
Peter Mitchell posted this on FB. I'm guessing it's kinda in response to this ep. I invite all families to watch next week. The episode is about where to place your faith - in God, organized religion or your fellow man. We like to try and go everywhere on this showhmm, with an invitation like that, God better show up. Otherwise, that's an epic troll of the Family Values crowd.
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:52:52 GMT
Emily: "Nooooooooo - Julia had Lillian first!!!!" (and as eclair never tires of pointing out, Julia doesn't need the support anyway...) It's late so I'm not getting emily's comment.... (well that's rude) Re: Emily's comment - it looked like Lillian got "under Julia's corset" first. Re: eclair - yes he can be crass. (hear that eclair?!)
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Post by monty151 on Feb 17, 2015 8:53:04 GMT
Well I have read all the comments here and on FB. I think we can split the FBs into 3 groups
1 those that were holding out for Gemily to return
2 the ones left over from Yannicks Sue Thomas days and expect MM to be the same sickly moralistic show
3 The ones who think it is acceptable to show someone who has been decapitated but not 2 people kissing. They will allow their children to watch people who have been shot stabbed raped but god forbid you show 2 people being loving to each other.
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 9:04:59 GMT
Well I have read all the comments here and on FB. I think we can split the FBs into 3 groups 1 those that were holding out for Gemily to return 2 the ones left over from Yannicks Sue Thomas days and expect MM to be the same sickly moralistic show 3 The ones who think it is acceptable to show someone who has been decapitated but not 2 people kissing. They will allow their children to watch people who have been shot stabbed raped but god forbid you show 2 people being loving to each other. Perhaps four groups as there are some on fb that think the way I do and I'm definitely not in one of the above groups, we may be a minority though. I suspect many of the people have been watching MM with rose coloured glasses thinking it was purely 'family' entertainment. I actually would agree with that somewhat but it depends what kind of family you belong to.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Feb 17, 2015 12:39:38 GMT
In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... I was wondering the same thing. I would think he'd have to have his hands on to really notice as it's not obvious otherwise. When Emily and Lillian step out of the carriage the night they go under cover...I think she's wearing a corset there-a very Gibson Girl shape going on there... but, they are undercover. It makes sense that they want to dress up and wear "Spanx" to ensure proper shape.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Feb 17, 2015 12:51:07 GMT
Finally got home and saw the ep (darn that pesky job). I liked it-it was solid, it was interesting, and my husband said at the beginning of the ep that Emily and Lillian were gonna kiss. Actually, he's been waiting for them to do that for a while... No, he doesn't read spoilers or the like...
But, I like Brax a lot this episode, and I think this season has shown an interesting dynamic with him vs. women. He's old enough to where he thinks what he says goes because he's the man, but he's also young enough to be a little modern and still thoughtful towards women. He thinks he should control the women around him, yet he clearly doesn't. Rather than be angry about it, he does still try too treat them with respect in his own way.
Think about it, Margaret's obviously the boss of him, Julia listened to him, but certainly didn't cower in fear, and Emily hears him and goes off and does the opposite. Yet, he still respects them in his own way-but he's a man of his era. He's no misogynist pig-but he's definitely got some thinking to do in how women fit into this modern world he's a part of whether he likes it or not.
When George was looking at the jewelry store, I thought he was going to pick out an engagement ring! Still, I got the impression, that he might have feelings for Emily, and that the show might get them back together yet. Murdoch accepted Julia's abortion and divorce, George accepts Emily's sapphism.
Mind you, I hope I'm wrong...
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 15:37:44 GMT
Finally got home and saw the ep (darn that pesky job). I liked it-it was solid, it was interesting, and my husband said at the beginning of the ep that Emily and Lillian were gonna kiss. Actually, he's been waiting for them to do that for a while... No, he doesn't read spoilers or the like... But, I like Brax a lot this episode, and I think this season has shown an interesting dynamic with him vs. women. He's old enough to where he thinks what he says goes because he's the man, but he's also young enough to be a little modern and still thoughtful towards women. He thinks he should control the women around him, yet he clearly doesn't. Rather than be angry about it, he does still try too treat them with respect in his own way. Think about it, Margaret's obviously the boss of him, Julia listened to him, but certainly didn't cower in fear, and Emily hears him and goes off and does the opposite. Yet, he still respects them in his own way-but he's a man of his era. He's no misogynist pig-but he's definitely got some thinking to do in how women fit into this modern world he's a part of whether he likes it or not. When George was looking at the jewelry store, I thought he was going to pick out an engagement ring! Still, I got the impression, that he might have feelings for Emily, and that the show might get them back together yet. Murdoch accepted Julia's abortion and divorce, George accepts Emily's sapphism. Mind you, I hope I'm wrong... Gee, a man looking forward to two attractive women kissing...never heard that one before. (No offense to your hubby, he can't help it). Yes, I think he's grown a lot since season one. I really can't see him handling Emily's news the same way back then. I thought that too but it would've been too cliched I guess...though that's the second time they made us THINK he was gonna do it. In S7 the preview had him talking about waiting at the jeweler's all day... Yup, same impression I got. But I don't think he knows yet. At least not consciously. Indeed...
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