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Post by Hodge on Jan 19, 2015 18:18:47 GMT
I still thinking part of the issue with Lillian is you're reading her wrong. I should point out that Emily was also mad at Julia for dropping out of the race. She has also been mad at Julia before for disappointing her feminist expectations. I think Lillian is getting saddled with the "man-hating lesbian" stereotype for leading Emily, astray, though. It still seems to me that what the writers wrote was the "young feeling the old were sell outs" stereotype, and that Lillian showed respect when Julia got up on the stage. If it seems this storyline is written in broadstrokes, that's because Lillian is B...no a C...character. Her story has to be communicated in an economy of lines and screen time. Does anything in the past writing of MM strike you to indicate that the "man-hating lesbian" is the message the writers want to get across? The difficulty in keeping radicalism going across generations is a much more interesting storyline. It's not the man hating lesbian I don't like, it's just the character in general and unless something happens with her character soon she's totally unnecessary. Just one more character to juggle and it's not being done well IMO. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 19, 2015 19:00:53 GMT
It's not the man hating lesbian I don't like, it's just the character in general and unless something happens with her character soon she's totally unnecessary. Just one more character to juggle and it's not being done well IMO. I have to agree the character is flat as is, especially if her only role was to be rude to Julia. I wonder what the reaction will be when they only get 80 votes: will they see it as a triumph they ran a woman or a pathetic result? In any case, I think I would have liked to have seen more innuendo with Emily and more positive "new woman" energy. I keep posting about Gilman and her ideas because it seems they really did help energize the era in terms of getting women out of the kitchen. Upper class women who could read about this stuff and discuss it in clubs (it seems there were a LOT of clubs) didn't want to be eugenically deformed by their slavery to marriage! So they tried to figure out how to become independent of men. This is the thought leading up to Virginia Woolf's "500 pounds and a Room of One's Own" in 1929. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 20, 2015 2:12:36 GMT
Well, the main thing I took away from this ep is that our dear Georgie is quite the talented stud muffin.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2015 3:02:25 GMT
A good episode, and the B story about the Inspector's painting was cute. And yes, the ladies can't resist George! I mean, do you blame her?  Think William was both relieved and a bit affronted it wasn't him? |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 20, 2015 3:03:13 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. Totally loved the Brax/Julia painting thing. I was waiting the whole ep to find out which of The Group of Seven was being represented by the young sign painter...and I was right!! I've talked about Tom Thompson before, as is the most well known of that era to me, even though not technically a Go7 artist.
Who knew that Brax was both a thespian and a painter?? (And a thug when the situation merits.)
I think the writers did our ladies reasonable justice...it occurs to me that Julia and Emily appear fairly often together in the morgue. (Not that there's enough work for them both to be employed there, harumph.) I must say thought that I enjoyed watching the 2 of them figuring out the type of poison together. Not a suffragette moment at all.
LOVED George on the donkey with his pillow, lol!
Anybody else think William was uber-sexy in is wilderness gear? Less urban braniac and more rugged-lumberjack-cowboy-with-brians (hawt)? The last scene was almost anti-climactic with citified pj's and robes with able nurse-doctor Julia at hand. IMO, the scene would have read better with William propped up in bed a la "Convalescence" with his loving wife in her robe beside him on the bed. (A nice full circle moment if you ask me.)
Giggles over George and his lock picking and running away from Mack! Hooting over Mack looking at George as the "strong, silent type".
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2015 3:22:02 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. Totally loved the Brax/Julia painting thing. I was waiting the whole ep to find out which of The Group of Seven was being represented by the young sign painter...and I was right!! I've talked about Tom Thompson before, as is the most well known of that era to me, even though not technically a Go7 artist. Who knew that Brax was both a thespian and a painter?? (And a thug when the situation merits.) I think the writers did our ladies reasonable justice...it occurs to me that Julia and Emily appear fairly often together in the morgue. (Not that there's enough work for them both to be employed there, harumph.) I must say thought that I enjoyed watching the 2 of them figuring out the type of poison together. Not a suffragette moment at all. LOVED George on the donkey with his pillow, lol! Anybody else think William was uber-sexy in is wilderness gear? Less urban braniac and more rugged-lumberjack-cowboy-with-brians (hawt)? The last scene was almost anti-climactic with citified pj's and robes with able nurse-doctor Julia at hand. IMO, the scene would have read better with William propped up in bed a la "Convalescence" with his loving wife in her robe beside him on the bed. (A nice full circle moment if you ask me.) Giggles over George and his lock picking and running away from Mack! Hooting over Mack looking at George as the "strong, silent type". Well, Brax is a Renaissance man! He's a man of many talents, although my favorite this season is JungleJusticeBrax! That's still überhot.I liked this episode more than I thought I would. I was pleasantly surprised. Loved geekyscience! Julia and Emily working together! That was nicely done! That was way better than the weak suffragette plot! Love George's lockpicking skills, and also how he ultimately saved the day. He knew when to walk away and fight another day, and saved not only his life, but also William's. I also loved stud!George-even if he didn't care for it! I kinda wanted to smack William for being incredulous that someone wanted to seduce George-of course they did! Even if she was scary.William, you got shot! Know when to retreat and fight another day, okay? Besides, you get to convalesce with Julia now. You know she's going to take very good care of you. Was I the only person that had strains of Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing going through my mind?
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 20, 2015 3:38:15 GMT
William, you got shot! Know when to retreat and fight another day, okay? Besides, you get to convalesce with Julia now. You know she's going to take very good care of you. Was I the only person that had strains of Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing going through my mind?
Actually, that's a much better choice given I had "The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers in my head. I'm going with your pic . |
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Post by snacky on Jan 20, 2015 3:49:00 GMT
Well, the main thing I took away from this ep is that our dear Georgie is quite the talented stud muffin. Wa can't watch tonight.  Want to see the stud muffin...  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2015 3:52:05 GMT
William, you got shot! Know when to retreat and fight another day, okay? Besides, you get to convalesce with Julia now. You know she's going to take very good care of you. Was I the only person that had strains of Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing going through my mind?
Actually, that's a much better choice given I had "The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers in my head. I'm going with your pic . OMG!!!! The Gambler totally works for George's bit at the end! I love it! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 20, 2015 3:54:01 GMT
Think William was both relieved and a bit affronted it wasn't him? Haha, I can imagine this and can't wait to check it out tomorrow.  |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 20, 2015 3:54:33 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. Totally loved the Brax/Julia painting thing. I was waiting the whole ep to find out which of The Group of Seven was being represented by the young sign painter...and I was right!! I've talked about Tom Thompson before, as is the most well known of that era to me, even though not technically a Go7 artist. Who knew that Brax was both a thespian and a painter?? (And a thug when the situation merits.) I think the writers did our ladies reasonable justice...it occurs to me that Julia and Emily appear fairly often together in the morgue. (Not that there's enough work for them both to be employed there, harumph.) I must say thought that I enjoyed watching the 2 of them figuring out the type of poison together. Not a suffragette moment at all. LOVED George on the donkey with his pillow, lol! Anybody else think William was uber-sexy in is wilderness gear? Less urban braniac and more rugged-lumberjack-cowboy-with-brians (hawt)? The last scene was almost anti-climactic with citified pj's and robes with able nurse-doctor Julia at hand. IMO, the scene would have read better with William propped up in bed a la "Convalescence" with his loving wife in her robe beside him on the bed. (A nice full circle moment if you ask me.) Giggles over George and his lock picking and running away from Mack! Hooting over Mack looking at George as the "strong, silent type". I really enjoyed this ep. Loved backwoods!William, still never a hair out of place though. Nice to see George was the 'better' dressed with his collar and tie and William was dressed for the occasion. As always loved him on the horse, nothing better than William on a horse and backwoods!William was even better!! Glad they referred back to his lumberjack days. I figured it was Tom Thompson as CJ had talked about him at one of the panels. So Mr. B was his inspiration, who knew?? I was happy to see lots of the ladies this week though not much of the W/J interaction that was touted on Twitter, that's fine though. Loved Emily with her rats again! Just watching again for the third time, gotta love timeshifting which I had to get so I could see the classic eps, I'm making supper at the new, stupid, 5.30 timeslot. I finally got what George was saying about his aunt moving back to Newfoundland, hating the mainland because she was terrified of moose. For non Canadians, there are more moose/square mile in NL than the mainland and they're not even a native species of NL, they were introduced. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 20, 2015 3:59:53 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. Totally loved the Brax/Julia painting thing. I was waiting the whole ep to find out which of The Group of Seven was being represented by the young sign painter...and I was right!! I've talked about Tom Thompson before, as is the most well known of that era to me, even though not technically a Go7 artist. Who knew that Brax was both a thespian and a painter?? (And a thug when the situation merits.) I think the writers did our ladies reasonable justice...it occurs to me that Julia and Emily appear fairly often together in the morgue. (Not that there's enough work for them both to be employed there, harumph.) I must say thought that I enjoyed watching the 2 of them figuring out the type of poison together. Not a suffragette moment at all. LOVED George on the donkey with his pillow, lol! Anybody else think William was uber-sexy in is wilderness gear? Less urban braniac and more rugged-lumberjack-cowboy-with-brians (hawt)? The last scene was almost anti-climactic with citified pj's and robes with able nurse-doctor Julia at hand. IMO, the scene would have read better with William propped up in bed a la "Convalescence" with his loving wife in her robe beside him on the bed. (A nice full circle moment if you ask me.) Giggles over George and his lock picking and running away from Mack! Hooting over Mack looking at George as the "strong, silent type". Inspector B thinks of himself as a lover not a fighter. Is this the ep where William wears the "put out to pasture" robe? |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 20, 2015 4:02:04 GMT
Is this the ep where William wears the "put out to pasture" robe? Yes |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 20, 2015 4:03:02 GMT
Did anyone that saw the ep tonight notice that the flask they had in the morgue wasn't the one the guy had in his hand when he died?
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 20, 2015 4:03:32 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. Totally loved the Brax/Julia painting thing. I was waiting the whole ep to find out which of The Group of Seven was being represented by the young sign painter...and I was right!! I've talked about Tom Thompson before, as is the most well known of that era to me, even though not technically a Go7 artist. Who knew that Brax was both a thespian and a painter?? (And a thug when the situation merits.) I think the writers did our ladies reasonable justice...it occurs to me that Julia and Emily appear fairly often together in the morgue. (Not that there's enough work for them both to be employed there, harumph.) I must say thought that I enjoyed watching the 2 of them figuring out the type of poison together. Not a suffragette moment at all. LOVED George on the donkey with his pillow, lol! Anybody else think William was uber-sexy in is wilderness gear? Less urban braniac and more rugged-lumberjack-cowboy-with-brians (hawt)? The last scene was almost anti-climactic with citified pj's and robes with able nurse-doctor Julia at hand. IMO, the scene would have read better with William propped up in bed a la "Convalescence" with his loving wife in her robe beside him on the bed. (A nice full circle moment if you ask me.) Giggles over George and his lock picking and running away from Mack! Hooting over Mack looking at George as the "strong, silent type". Inspector B thinks of himself as a lover not a fighter. Is this the ep where William wears the "put out to pasture" robe? And what, exactly, is the "put out to pasture" robe? |
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Want to see the stud muffin... 
