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Post by Hodge on Dec 4, 2015 15:35:55 GMT
How can George be so shocked? He's already seen a lot more of Julia! I love the idea of these shenanigans going on in 1903, though.  On second thought, I wonder if these two pictures are even related.  We'll only find out when we see the movie.... |
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 4, 2015 17:44:19 GMT
There's definitely a mystery to be solved in the movie. It wouldn't be Murdoch Mysteries otherwise. Love George's face! I'd love to hear the dialogue in his head. How can George be so shocked? He's already seen a lot more of Julia! I love the idea of these shenanigans going on in 1903, though. It's one thing for George to have seen more of Julia but it's another thing entirely to see her dressed in such a highly seductive manner, intended for William's eyes only! It's possible we're being punked and these 2 shots don't actually belong together but it makes for some fun speculation to carry us through the next 2+ weeks. (I'm choosing to believe this is actually a scene because it is embarrassingly funny for all 3 of them. Just think of it as another play on our very favourite tie theme.  ) They seem to be embracing the finer elements of being newlyweds.  |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Dec 5, 2015 19:35:35 GMT
Julia has a very special christmas gift/present for William.  But he couldn't enjoy it... for now! They use the old right tactics/trick of the interruption which is in this case: the surprise guest!But the guest didn't know that he would be surprised.  It's so sweet to invite George for Christmas.  It would appear that William wants to light up the Christmas tree or... burn it!  |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Dec 5, 2015 20:12:00 GMT
Oh... I just read/learn that the 2 hour Christmas episode will be also aired on the french channel "FRANCE 3". Not on monday the 21st december but... ON SUNDAY THE 20th DECEMBER! I can't believe it! I promise "no spoilers" once I watch it.   |
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Post by sydneyfan on Dec 6, 2015 8:04:27 GMT
Julia has a very special christmas gift/present for William. But he couldn't enjoy it... for now! They use the old right tactics/trick of the interruption which is in this case: the surprise guest!But the guest didn't know that he would be surprised. It's so sweet to invite George for Christmas. It would appear that William wants to light up the Christmas tree or... burn it! |
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Post by sydneyfan on Dec 6, 2015 8:13:23 GMT
Woah, if I was George I'd be saying "Sir I'll be back in an hour" and do the clothes on the Christmas tree mean William has thrown his off or given other picture does Julia redress with hair up and all dressed again! Of course all reliant on pictures being related, I'm thinking they are but constantly wrong! Have been loathe to post given earlier comments about negativity and rereading some of mine, I wondered oh dear maybe me. Anyhow lesson one don't write something after a lunch, a very long lunch in the sun! Loving the interaction between William and Julia this year, someone on Facebook said they preferred their romance more subtle, I'm the opposite I'd like it ramped up even further!!The chemistry between the actors is so cute!
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Post by fan2tvshows on Dec 7, 2015 22:22:58 GMT
Woah, if I was George I'd be saying "Sir I'll be back in an hour" and do the clothes on the Christmas tree mean William has thrown his off or given other picture does Julia redress with hair up and all dressed again! Of course all reliant on pictures being related, I'm thinking they are but constantly wrong! Have been loathe to post given earlier comments about negativity and rereading some of mine, I wondered oh dear maybe me. Anyhow lesson one don't write something after a lunch, a very long lunch in the sun! Loving the interaction between William and Julia this year, someone on Facebook said they preferred their romance more subtle, I'm the opposite I'd like it ramped up even further!!The chemistry between the actors is so cute! Poor George! But I wonder who is the most embarrassed in this awkward moment. It will be hard for the three of them to look into their eyes... but not for a long time. I also noticed the romance between Julia and William was back in the background of the episodes of the ninth season and I'm not complaining. On the contrary, I like it! But I can't stop thinking that William is rather passive, as usual, even now they are married and even when he was drugged (he was not "hungry"), which causes -according to me- a umbalance in their relationship. But I suppose it is take or leave it and that's why I stopped focusing my attention of their couple. Maybe at the end of this episode, he will show her how much he loves her in his birthday suit and a red ribbon knotted around his neck. After all, everything is possible at Christmas Day. Well if she is still able to see him and appreciate her gift, the garland of light bulbs seems to be too powerful and Julia could end up blind. |
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Post by carco on Dec 7, 2015 23:41:59 GMT
How can George be so shocked? He's already seen a lot more of Julia! I love the idea of these shenanigans going on in 1903, though. On second thought, I wonder if these two pictures are even related. If she was only expecting William and she came out of the bedroom dressed like that while telling him she has a "present" for him, then yeah, I could see the pic of George and William as being a companion pic.  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 8, 2015 7:03:39 GMT
Maybe at the end of this episode, he will show her how much he loves her in his birthday suit and a red ribbon knotted around his neck. After all, everything is possible at Christmas Day. Well if she is still able to see him and appreciate her gift, the garland of light bulbs seems to be too powerful and Julia could end up blind. LOL, I totally agree this could be William's own "gift" later, hahahaha Poor George. I'm not sure I agree with William being too passive. IMHO, William made a deliberate choice to be "modern", but that choice is hard for him. He's determined, but he's also in unknown territory. Since Julia represents modernity to him in many ways, he lets her take the lead. Sometimes I think stick-in-the-mud William is played too far, and he comes across as slightly frumpy. It's more fun when outsiders like Bat Masterson totally under-estimate him. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Dec 9, 2015 23:09:55 GMT
I'm not sure I agree with William being too passive. IMHO, William made a deliberate choice to be "modern", but that choice is hard for him. He's determined, but he's also in unknown territory. Since Julia represents modernity to him in many ways, he lets her take the lead. Sometimes I think stick-in-the-mud William is played too far, and he comes across as slightly frumpy. It's more fun when outsiders like Bat Masterson totally under-estimate him. At the very beginning, you seem to be agreed with me. Then, the next seconde, you try to explain his passive behaviour and try to show a positive side/aspect about it. I even have the impression that you make excuses for him/for defending the image of the great detective William MURDOCH. It was not -and it's still not- my intention to tarnish the character or his image. But saying -I quote you- "he lets her take the lead" is other words for "William is passive". This is a fact. And I don't like the umbalance in their romantic/marital relationship. You also said that William made a deliberate choice to be "modern" -it's a good thing!- and being "modern" makes me think: - mutual respect between spouses. - equality between husbands and wives. - gender equality. - mens/husbands and womens/wives both support a family. - husbands do not care if their wife have a higher professionnal statut in the society or come from a higher social class and so earn or have more money than them. - wives not being in a submissive position, wives are not obliged to obey their husband. - the conjugal duty can not be imposed by husbands to their wife. - wives are free to decide if they want or not to have babies. As you can see, it makes me think a lot of things but it can't explain why William is so passive. Or otherwise it would mean that if he wanted to hug his wife or to kiss her or to make love to her, he should wait until she takes the first step because of his will of being modern. It doesn't make sense! To finish, I noticed that even Julia took the first step -and we can't deny how determined she is: she wrapped herself up as a present for him-, William was not very reactive. But as you said a long time ago it's not a soap opera. |
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Post by lizmc on Dec 10, 2015 1:52:29 GMT
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Post by Hodge on Dec 10, 2015 5:49:23 GMT
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2015 6:46:29 GMT
Coming from the country of Ugly Americans (Bat Masterson was a great representation), I hold that William's unassuming, courteous nature is 90% of his appeal. At one point I was hoping that Yannick's character would make it into a feature in GQ or another men's magazine as a new model of manhood. Of course, America (and possibly Canada, too) is burdened with that other guy hat stereotype: the fedora. However, that hat brings to mind pick-up artists on the prowl - who regard themselves entitled to "beautiful" women without bringing all that much to the table themselves. (Then they complain about "nerd-shaming" when their blatant manipulation fails). Anyway: fedora, bad. homburg, good (until some pick-up artist ruins it for all men). |
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2015 6:49:30 GMT
I'm not sure I agree with William being too passive. IMHO, William made a deliberate choice to be "modern", but that choice is hard for him. He's determined, but he's also in unknown territory. Since Julia represents modernity to him in many ways, he lets her take the lead. Sometimes I think stick-in-the-mud William is played too far, and he comes across as slightly frumpy. It's more fun when outsiders like Bat Masterson totally under-estimate him. At the very beginning, you seem to be agreed with me. Then, the next seconde, you try to explain his passive behaviour and try to show a positive side/aspect about it. I even have the impression that you make excuses for him/for defending the image of the great detective William MURDOCH. It was not -and it's still not- my intention to tarnish the character or his image. But saying -I quote you- "he lets her take the lead" is other words for "William is passive". This is a fact. And I don't like the umbalance in their romantic/marital relationship. You also said that William made a deliberate choice to be "modern" -it's a good thing!- and being "modern" makes me think: - mutual respect between spouses. - equality between husbands and wives. - gender equality. - mens/husbands and womens/wives both support a family. - husbands do not care if their wife have a higher professionnal statut in the society or come from a higher social class and so earn or have more money than them. - wives not being in a submissive position, wives are not obliged to obey their husband. - the conjugal duty can not be imposed by husbands to their wife. - wives are free to decide if they want or not to have babies. As you can see, it makes me think a lot of things but it can't explain why William is so passive. Or otherwise it would mean that if he wanted to hug his wife or to kiss her or to make love to her, he should wait until she takes the first step because of his will of being modern. It doesn't make sense! To finish, I noticed that even Julia took the first step -and we can't deny how determined she is: she wrapped herself up as a present for him-, William was not very reactive. But as you said a long time ago it's not a soap opera. You shouldn't worry about whether anyone here agrees with you or not: we're all free to offer our opinions here. As I just wrote in another comment, I've always valued William's reticence: I've regarded it as a different model of manhood than the American one, and something I much prefer! |
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Post by murdochic on Dec 10, 2015 12:05:24 GMT
I expected it to be campy. It's not a real part of the show and it's called 'caper', so like some of the non-canon web series, it'll camp things up because they can get away with that. |
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