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Post by randomkiwibirds on Feb 24, 2016 15:02:02 GMT
NUUUU ROLAND!
I was so happy they finally got a nanny, and then so mixed at the end! I was happy that Roland had found his actual family, but so crushed for William and Julia! (and I'd just had them adopt him in my Sims game!)
Anyway, strong solid episode. Great seeing Pink again, regardless of the circumstances.
It does appear that Julia is still working at the asylum at least part time. They never did address whether she left her position there or not, but I am glad (at least it appears so) that she kept working there.
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Post by shangas on Feb 24, 2016 23:28:37 GMT
Finally got a chance to see this episode last night...
I don't know if it's legal to 'own' someone as that guy said, in 1903. Slavery in the British Empire was made illegal in the 1830s, and in the States, in the 1860s.
I think what's more likely is that he gained legal custody over her, that's probably what he meant.
I'm not sure how much I enjoyed this episode. It was alright, I guess, but not as interesting as I'd have liked it to be. I liked that Freddie Pink is back. I'd like for her and Murdoch to fully get tangled up in a case again. I think that would be interesting.
The whole Roland substory thing was interesting, but again, not really to my taste. Roland's biological farther is obviously a solid, hardworking individual - but to thrust his son upon him so suddenly without almost any prior contact seems a bit cruel. What if he's not prepared for taking him back yet? Even if he is his son, looking after a baby out of the blue isn't easy, as the Murdochs would now know.
Personally I would've gone about that bit differently.
As for Julia, I see no reason why she wouldn't work part-time at the mortuary, and part time at the hospital. She's equally qualified for both positions, so I don't see why not.
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Post by lizmc on Feb 24, 2016 23:53:14 GMT
Peter Mitchell on Roland's story: www.tv-eh.com/2016/02/24/murdoch-mysteries-showrunner-explains-heartbreaking-episode/(BTW, I agree with Shangas that by "own", Travis meant he had legal custody. Fen would have been a minor when he found her. (Someone who paid more attention to the dates, please help.....would Fen still be a minor? The age of majority at that time was 21....) Just a point of pride....Upper Canada was the first jurisdiction in the British Empire to abolish slavery. Lt Governor John Graves Simcoe was responsible for that in 1793....... |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Feb 25, 2016 16:12:23 GMT
Yes that was a surprise we were getting used to them being parents. The last few minutes were very upsetting and yes we cried. Julia and William really played the part so so so well. That was such a difficult scene to play and they did it exceptionally good. I hope this is not the end of them having a baby. Please please. I suspect the issue will come up again at some point. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Feb 25, 2016 16:15:04 GMT
NUUUU ROLAND! I was so happy they finally got a nanny, and then so mixed at the end! I was happy that Roland had found his actual family, but so crushed for William and Julia! (and I'd just had them adopt him in my Sims game!) Anyway, strong solid episode. Great seeing Pink again, regardless of the circumstances. It does appear that Julia is still working at the asylum at least part time. They never did address whether she left her position there or not, but I am glad (at least it appears so) that she kept working there. I know! I was like, wait, now they get a nanny? That was a sign, IMO. I guess Julia still has some position at the asylum...and yes, I want to see more Pink. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Feb 25, 2016 16:21:21 GMT
Peter Mitchell on Roland's story: www.tv-eh.com/2016/02/24/murdoch-mysteries-showrunner-explains-heartbreaking-episode/(BTW, I agree with Shangas that by "own", Travis meant he had legal custody. Fen would have been a minor when he found her. (Someone who paid more attention to the dates, please help.....would Fen still be a minor? The age of majority at that time was 21....) Just a point of pride....Upper Canada was the first jurisdiction in the British Empire to abolish slavery. Lt Governor John Graves Simcoe was responsible for that in 1793....... I disagree about it being custody, why not just say so, then? He repeatedly mentions that she's his property, she belongs to him, she's not his ward. It didn't ruin the ep for me at all, it's just a glaring hole in an otherwise well written episode for me. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 25, 2016 16:56:01 GMT
Peter Mitchell on Roland's story: www.tv-eh.com/2016/02/24/murdoch-mysteries-showrunner-explains-heartbreaking-episode/(BTW, I agree with Shangas that by "own", Travis meant he had legal custody. Fen would have been a minor when he found her. (Someone who paid more attention to the dates, please help.....would Fen still be a minor? The age of majority at that time was 21....) Just a point of pride....Upper Canada was the first jurisdiction in the British Empire to abolish slavery. Lt Governor John Graves Simcoe was responsible for that in 1793....... I disagree about it being custody, why not just say so, then? He repeatedly mentions that she's his property, she belongs to him, she's not his ward. It didn't ruin the ep for me at all, it's just a glaring hole in an otherwise well written episode for me. This was a rough and ready uneducated man. I can see him thinking that if he has legal custody that makes her his possession. Children belonged to their father in those days and legal custody made him her father. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 25, 2016 17:00:59 GMT
The whole Roland substory thing was interesting, but again, not really to my taste. Roland's biological farther is obviously a solid, hardworking individual - but to thrust his son upon him so suddenly without almost any prior contact seems a bit cruel. What if he's not prepared for taking him back yet? Even if he is his son, looking after a baby out of the blue isn't easy, as the Murdochs would now know. I don't think the baby was thrust onto the biological father, he was obviously sorry he never had a child. I'm sure William and Julia spoke to him before handing over the child. There was a lot that happened between Julia telling William and handing over the baby but the show only runs for one hour. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 15, 2016 5:44:07 GMT
Even though you could see this outcome from a mile away when William and Julia first adopted Roland, the ending was still sad. Both Yannick and Helene conveyed their grief really well, given the sparsity of screen real estate devoted to the departure of Roland. I have to admit I will miss that happy little guy! I'm glad there were echoes of the loss in the next episode, and I hope this remains an angsty theme for the rest of the season.  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 15, 2016 5:45:59 GMT
Finally got a chance to see this episode last night... I don't know if it's legal to 'own' someone as that guy said, in 1903. Slavery in the British Empire was made illegal in the 1830s, and in the States, in the 1860s. Perhaps this was something like Power of Attorney over a person declared incompetent...? |
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