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Post by Hodge on Jan 23, 2017 22:30:45 GMT
Episode 10 was called The Devil Inside. Julia has referred to James Gillies in the past, and if I remember correctly, in The Devil Inside the phrase "there will be hell to pay was used. Episode 15 is called "Hades Hath no Fury" and the description says "an explosion leads Murdoch to a covert community" which gives some validation to our theory that William will be forced to go undercover with everyone thinking he is dead including Julia. The Season Finale as we know is called "Hell to Pay." How will this all come together? The blond woman mentioned in A Murdog Mystery could be Sally Pendrick, but it could also be James Gillies in one of his disguises before he was hung. Something tells me that even in death James Gillies is not finished with William and Julia yet..... I hope you're right about a story arc and I think Det. Watts case will be involved. We need something to tie at least some of the remaining episodes together. I can't believe they deliberately made the whole season stand alones. |
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Post by Pm on Jan 23, 2017 23:05:35 GMT
All our seasons are made up of a majority of stand alone episodes
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Post by Hodge on Jan 24, 2017 1:22:09 GMT
All our seasons are made up of a majority of stand alone episodes That may be but there's usually something going on in the background even if it's only George's dysfunctional love life. That's why I was beginning to think Miss Cherry's attempts to woo him was the arc! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 24, 2017 12:04:11 GMT
I think there has been some sort of unifying theme tying the episodes together, or at least it certainly has felt like it. It may not have been a pivotal plot point, or even a major arc, but most of sense that something was there.
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Post by Hodge on Jan 25, 2017 0:21:24 GMT
I think there has been some sort of unifying theme tying the episodes together, or at least it certainly has felt like it. It may not have been a pivotal plot point, or even a major arc, but most of sense that something was there. I didn't see any unifying theme in the earlier episodes. I was completely discombobulated by the first half of S10. |
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Post by murdochic on Jan 25, 2017 1:10:59 GMT
I don't think it feels like a connecting arc. The subplot is disjointed from the rest of the show. I wish they'd include some of the main characters in it and then it would feel like it was an arc. To me, it feels more like a time-filler. I hope it gets more urgent and important later on.
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Post by PM on Jan 25, 2017 3:41:18 GMT
Sounds like the show has passed you by
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Post by Murdork on Jan 25, 2017 4:24:23 GMT
Sorry I was trying to edit my original post but accidentally deleted it which is why it's missing. My idea was based purely on a couple of photos that Yannick posted on Instagram and is speculation only. I realize the majority of the episodes are designed to be stand alone but there often is a thread that ties it all together in the end. It's fun trying to guess how it all will come together. I don't feel like the show has passed me by and am still a huge fan of the show.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 25, 2017 10:09:27 GMT
I think there has been some sort of unifying theme tying the episodes together, or at least it certainly has felt like it. It may not have been a pivotal plot point, or even a major arc, but most of sense that something was there. I didn't see any unifying theme in the earlier episodes. I was completely discombobulated by the first half of S10. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I meant that there had been some sort of unifying detail in previous seasons, but not so much for the first half of this season. |
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Post by murdochic on Jan 25, 2017 16:21:20 GMT
Sounds like the show has passed you by No it hasn't  I've been watching the show longer than you've worked on it and I'm allowed to have opinions. You can't keep telling posters to quit watching just because they don't like everything you're doing. If you continue to do this then you'll run out of viewers. You're only getting a S11 because the viewers stick around to give you an audience. MM makes mistakes and IMO having an unconnected subplot isn't a compelling idea. How can every viewers really get invested in it when it's with a detective we barely know and a occasionally recurring officer. If it included one of the main characters every viewer would be more invested. I'm waiting it out and hoping it becomes more relevant to the main characters as the season goes on. Maybe you should use your posts to reassure us instead of attacking opinions you don't like. |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 25, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
I didn't see any unifying theme in the earlier episodes. I was completely discombobulated by the first half of S10. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I meant that there had been some sort of unifying detail in previous seasons, but not so much for the first half of this season. I agree with this, there was always something running through, i.e. S6 was Julia's divorce. |
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Post by PM on Jan 25, 2017 20:30:12 GMT
Stating that the show may have become something you don't care to watch is hardly attacking your opinion. Sorry if you took offence.
The show has to grow to stay alive, not contract. Over time minor characters can become major characters, maybe that will happen with Watts and Jackson, maybe it won't. While you may not like Watts and Jackson many do. Many people dislike the domestic side of William and Julia, others live for it. Some people hate Gillies others would probably like him on every other week. Some people like continuing storylines, others hate them.
But we are doing something right. This season has had the largest viewership of any season of Murdoch Mysteries (it's an almost unheard of thing for a show to be getting more viewers in its 10th year) and I would like to keep that happening. I don't expect everyone to love everything and I don't think we succeed all the time but we do try to please a segment of our audience each episode.
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Post by Hodge on Jan 25, 2017 20:39:22 GMT
Stating that the show may have become something you don't care to watch is hardly attacking your opinion. Sorry if you took offence. The show has to grow to stay alive, not contract. Over time minor characters can become major characters, maybe that will happen with Watts and Jackson, maybe it won't. While you may not like Watts and Jackson many do. Many people dislike the domestic side of William and Julia, others live for it. Some people hate Gillies others would probably like him on every other week. Some people like continuing storylines, others hate them. But we are doing something right. This season has had the largest viewership of any season of Murdoch Mysteries (it's an almost unheard of thing for a show to be getting more viewers in its 10th year) and I would like to keep that happening. I don't expect everyone to love everything and I don't think we succeed all the time but we do try to please a segment of our audience each episode. I for one appreciate what you're trying to do but this season has felt very disjointed compared to previous seasons. Most of the episodes have been good as stand alones but we are used to an underlying thread that ties episodes together even in a minor way, e.g. Julia's divorce in S6 as I've previously mentioned. I was hoping the building of the house would be that thread but it seems to have been forgotten ... yes, I know the next episode has their building lot but it seems they're still not actually building the house yet. |
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Post by murdochic on Jan 26, 2017 0:21:41 GMT
Stating that the show may have become something you don't care to watch is hardly attacking your opinion. Sorry if you took offence. The show has to grow to stay alive, not contract. Over time minor characters can become major characters, maybe that will happen with Watts and Jackson, maybe it won't. While you may not like Watts and Jackson many do. Many people dislike the domestic side of William and Julia, others live for it. Some people hate Gillies others would probably like him on every other week. Some people like continuing storylines, others hate them. But we are doing something right. This season has had the largest viewership of any season of Murdoch Mysteries (it's an almost unheard of thing for a show to be getting more viewers in its 10th year) and I would like to keep that happening. I don't expect everyone to love everything and I don't think we succeed all the time but we do try to please a segment of our audience each episode. I'm still a massive MM fan, as big as I was when I first started watching it 8 years ago. But just because you do some things doesn't mean they'll work for the majority of viewers. I haven't had big issues with S9, but I still feel some storylines haven't worked all that well. Watts barely qualifies as a minor character considering he's been in so few episodes. It's hard for me to hang a story arc on such a unknown character and you can't really expect all the audience to be enthralled by it. My only problem with the storyline is that it feels disjointed, as did the burlesque club material. I'm sure if and when the main characters get involved it will feel more urgent and connected to the show. I'm absolutely willing to give it a chance and see how it unfolds. I don't hate it, I'm just not all that invested yet. I don't have a problem with how William and Julia are being written, the same goes for almost all the characters. Except sometimes George. The ratings are so high because of 9 seasons of a format that worked for the audience. No, you don't have to please every viewer all the time, and that means we'll sometimes not like what you do. Then we'll say that on a fan site or Facebook (which I don't use). It doesn't mean we want to stop watching MM or that we ever will. As long as William Murdoch and Julia Ogden are still around then so will I be. I love the show too much to walk away over some plot quibbles. |
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I've been watching the show longer than you've worked on it and I'm allowed to have opinions. You can't keep telling posters to quit watching just because they don't like everything you're doing. If you continue to do this then you'll run out of viewers. You're only getting a S11 because the viewers stick around to give you an audience. 