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Post by Lucy on Feb 7, 2011 17:48:59 GMT
 Murdoch and his team are called to the Don Valley to attend a crime scene. A young man was found dead after being savagely beaten. The victim’s name is Tom Meeks, he was a cadet at Fort York, who was on a training course that teaches Guerrilla tactics. Another body is then found with a disfigured face, to attempt to avoid the victim being identified. Murdoch has to investigate the military unit only to discover some medical practices that the soldiers are unaware of. |
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Post by hannikan on Feb 23, 2011 21:48:06 GMT
Wow, what a crazy episode! I was on the edge of my seat! I wonder if their condition was based on any real, reported experiences during the Boer War or if it was based solely on modern war tactics. I'm also wondering what year it is supposed to be now. Didn't S1 start in 1895? If so it should be 1898 or early 1899. That would make sense, too, given the 2nd Boer War started in late 1899. This episode depicted events leading up to it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_WarIf there is a S5, I wonder if Queen Victoria's death will show up in any episodes or if it will be referred to since it happened in very early 1901. |
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Post by flip18 on Feb 27, 2011 14:26:36 GMT
Quite enjoyed this one, even though the body count was quite high for a Murdoch story! Have to say that I'm warming to the new Doctor. Think it's partly because it's lovely to hear Paul Rhys's accent in the show and also because of the tense relationship he has with Murdoch. It's good for William to have not have things all his own way for once  |
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Post by camilla on Feb 27, 2011 16:27:16 GMT
I agree flip,the new doctor is a nice character and interesting too..can be' great if can stay in the show all three characters,with Julia too..we can have interesting situations!
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Post by wildhorseannie on May 1, 2014 4:09:07 GMT
I am in love with the new doctor! Well, not in a way that would threaten George's place in my heart, but I love him more than Julia! Probably because he and I speak the same language...fluent sarcasm. Plus the look on Murdoch's face when he gives it back to him is priceless. Can we please keep him instead of Julia? Pretty please!
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Post by snacky on May 1, 2014 6:45:25 GMT
I am in love with the new doctor! Well, not in a way that would threaten George's place in my heart, but I love him more than Julia! Probably because he and I speak the same language...fluent sarcasm. Plus the look on Murdoch's face when he gives it back to him is priceless. Can we please keep him instead of Julia? Pretty please! Nuuuuuuuuuu - he's so mean to William, and William can't get anything done! D: |
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Post by wildhorseannie on May 1, 2014 22:24:12 GMT
I think William needs someone to stand up to him. Especially during this time, with Julia being gone, he started being a little too rude and snappy.
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Post by snacky on May 2, 2014 0:35:53 GMT
I think William needs someone to stand up to him. Especially during this time, with Julia being gone, he started being a little too rude and snappy. He's being rude and snappy because he's used to the coroner being a collaborator in solving cases and taking the initiative when that's what it takes to get the job done. Employers often expect that under the rubric of "professionalism". Now William has not only lost Julia, he's being undermined in his ability to do his job. The new coroner not only makes a point of only doing the work he's precisely paid to do, he abuses the powers that comes with his role to punish anyone who challenges his do-only-what-I-want-to-do stance. We do get a little more of the coroner's point of view right before he leaves, but it didn't make me sympathetic. It was clear he should never have left England in the first place, but whining about it after the fact helps no one. William gets along with the next (female) coroner: and he doesn't pursue a relationship with her even when Julia is out of reach, so it's not like he can only work with a coroner that he's also flirting with. He just expects everyone to put solving the case first - and to put all personal problems aside while doing so. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on May 2, 2014 3:01:02 GMT
I think most of the clash between William and the doctor comes from their differing views on their job. The doctor is used to doing just his job as he sees it. He has a family and a life outside of work that doesn't interact with his colleagues, meaning he doesn't have to be totally invested in his "office life." William, on the other hand, is totally consumed by his work and is used to being around others who feel the same (i.e. Julia, George). Encountering someone with a different view was difficult for him to grasp.
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Post by snacky on May 2, 2014 4:22:34 GMT
I think most of the clash between William and the doctor comes from their differing views on their job. The doctor is used to doing just his job as he sees it. He has a family and a life outside of work that doesn't interact with his colleagues, meaning he doesn't have to be totally invested in his "office life." William, on the other hand, is totally consumed by his work and is used to being around others who feel the same (i.e. Julia, George). Encountering someone with a different view was difficult for him to grasp. Yep that's how I saw it, too - and I don't mean to imply the new coroner is in the wrong. William just can't work well with him, and it's up to the Toronto constabulary to decided who is serving them better. In this particular episode, things aren't looking good for William! Also, William is lucky to be working with someone as deferential as George. People often project the way they've felt forced to conform. William is conforming to a hierarchy that places him as an upstart and a suspicious Catholic. It's probably important to feel like others will give him respect for his place just as he does. George is all-too-willing to oblige. On the other hand, he's certainly throwing all the rules away around Julia. I think the relatively free and revolutionary spirit of their relationship is a great relief for him. |
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Post by lea on Jul 22, 2015 21:00:28 GMT
Another ep a day!
1. Yesterday I decided it would be funny to pair Dr. Francis & William, so now I find this episode entirely too much fun already.
2. I just about lose it every time when George is mentioning how contagious the plague of boils is and he moves away from William. He is too funny.
3. I'm surprised William winced at the body Francis was showing him. He usually handles it like a champ!
4. It was nice to see William & Dr. Francis get along for once! This will be essential for when I actually ship them!
5. The murders on this one were really interesting. It was fun to have the military on the show and it was all around just a great ep!
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2015 8:50:35 GMT
4. It was nice to see William & Dr. Francis get along for once! This will be essential for when I actually ship them!ROFLMAO! Now, there's a ship I never considered! And thank you for bringing a little slash zest to the forum! I've always thought that MM's fandom was small, and it's fic offerings were particularly small, because it didn't have much of a slash fandom. I also thought it was curious that even though I appreciated slash ships for other shows, I didn't see it here. And if you really hunt around the forum you will find my elaborate theories why. I think I'm the only one who even bothers with a theory. Jilliam is just so obvious that anything else is like...meh. If I work hard for it, I can see a very modern threesome with James Pendrick. Anyway, now that you mentioned it, this could definitely be a missing (very pouty) ship. Though Fallenbelle showed me Fanfic.net had matured over the years, I still don't think a fandom has come of age unless it has its own archive, and if there's a slash fandom (Lea=1), then there should definitely be a private archive. It's cracking me up to think by Season 5 Stargate had an army-sized slash fandom, and it took MM until season 9 to get...1. (I strongly supported Emily/Lillian last year, but it was mainly on principle rather than my sort of thing.) Let me know if anything comes of Frilliam. (Going to have to go back and watch those eps now to see if I can see any sparks there).   |
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Post by lea on Jul 23, 2015 11:53:20 GMT
4. It was nice to see William & Dr. Francis get along for once! This will be essential for when I actually ship them!ROFLMAO! Now, there's a ship I never considered! And thank you for bringing a little slash zest to the forum! I've always thought that MM's fandom was small, and it's fic offerings were particularly small, because it didn't have much of a slash fandom. I also thought it was curious that even though I appreciated slash ships for other shows, I didn't see it here. And if you really hunt around the forum you will find my elaborate theories why. I think I'm the only one who even bothers with a theory. Jilliam is just so obvious that anything else is like...meh. If I work hard for it, I can see a very modern threesome with James Pendrick. Anyway, now that you mentioned it, this could definitely be a missing (very pouty) ship. Though Fallenbelle showed me Fanfic.net had matured over the years, I still don't think a fandom has come of age unless it has its own archive, and if there's a slash fandom (Lea=1), then there should definitely be a private archive. It's cracking me up to think by Season 5 Stargate had an army-sized slash fandom, and it took MM until season 9 to get...1. (I strongly supported Emily/Lillian last year, but it was mainly on principle rather than my sort of thing.) Let me know if anything comes of Frilliam. (Going to have to go back and watch those eps now to see if I can see any sparks there). Hey don't forget the person that wrote the Gillies & William fanfic, there's totally two of us! Mostly the idea of Dr. Francis & William together is just funny to me, but they fit a certain stereotype. They hate each other and are constantly fighting, but it's only to hide their true feelings. One day during an argument they'll give in and start making out. (LOL I CAN'T CONTINUE. It's too weird and I'm actually laughing out loud.) Also, a threesome between Julia, William, & Pendrick? OMG. (I totally giggled) This is something I never considered... I... what?? I don't know how to feel about this. Honestly don't encourage me with ideas like these LOL. Soon I'll have it in my head that Gillies, William, and Francis together are totally not weird and a good idea. And I would say the lack of slash with Murdoch is partly due to there just isn't much opportunity for it on this show and partly due to the audience. I mean, I imagine if I was to post on one of the facebook pages that I thought William wasn't a virgin some of them would be coming after me with pitchforks and torches! (Oh and not to mention there were a few people angry about Lillian & Emily) So I can't even begin to imagine there being a lot fans wanting something outside of the box. Tumblr fans seem like they'd be down for it, but there's just not a huge group on tumblr. |
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Post by Hodge on Jul 23, 2015 14:15:04 GMT
4. It was nice to see William & Dr. Francis get along for once! This will be essential for when I actually ship them!ROFLMAO! Now, there's a ship I never considered! And thank you for bringing a little slash zest to the forum! I've always thought that MM's fandom was small, and it's fic offerings were particularly small, because it didn't have much of a slash fandom. I also thought it was curious that even though I appreciated slash ships for other shows, I didn't see it here. And if you really hunt around the forum you will find my elaborate theories why. I think I'm the only one who even bothers with a theory. Jilliam is just so obvious that anything else is like...meh. If I work hard for it, I can see a very modern threesome with James Pendrick. Anyway, now that you mentioned it, this could definitely be a missing (very pouty) ship. Though Fallenbelle showed me Fanfic.net had matured over the years, I still don't think a fandom has come of age unless it has its own archive, and if there's a slash fandom (Lea=1), then there should definitely be a private archive. It's cracking me up to think by Season 5 Stargate had an army-sized slash fandom, and it took MM until season 9 to get...1. (I strongly supported Emily/Lillian last year, but it was mainly on principle rather than my sort of thing.) Let me know if anything comes of Frilliam. (Going to have to go back and watch those eps now to see if I can see any sparks there). I'm going to jump in on this, particularly on the subject of slash fanfic. I've read slash in the past particularly with Forever Knight. There was so obviously an opportunity to ship Nick and Lacroix that anyone that didn't see it was deliberately looking away. However in MM I just don't see it and it's not like I haven't tried. Someone did make a William/Pendrick video that I suspect was supposed to be slash but try as they may it didn't come off. This is why there is no slash fic, it's impossible to pair any of the guys and the one female pair has already been done. I'm not sure I could ever see Julia in a same sex relationship, it's just not there and she likes her sex too much! |
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Post by lea on Jul 23, 2015 14:33:54 GMT
ROFLMAO! Now, there's a ship I never considered! And thank you for bringing a little slash zest to the forum! I've always thought that MM's fandom was small, and it's fic offerings were particularly small, because it didn't have much of a slash fandom. I also thought it was curious that even though I appreciated slash ships for other shows, I didn't see it here. And if you really hunt around the forum you will find my elaborate theories why. I think I'm the only one who even bothers with a theory. Jilliam is just so obvious that anything else is like...meh. If I work hard for it, I can see a very modern threesome with James Pendrick. Anyway, now that you mentioned it, this could definitely be a missing (very pouty) ship. Though Fallenbelle showed me Fanfic.net had matured over the years, I still don't think a fandom has come of age unless it has its own archive, and if there's a slash fandom (Lea=1), then there should definitely be a private archive. It's cracking me up to think by Season 5 Stargate had an army-sized slash fandom, and it took MM until season 9 to get...1. (I strongly supported Emily/Lillian last year, but it was mainly on principle rather than my sort of thing.) Let me know if anything comes of Frilliam. (Going to have to go back and watch those eps now to see if I can see any sparks there). I'm going to jump in on this, particularly on the subject of slash fanfic. I've read slash in the past particularly with Forever Knight. There was so obviously an opportunity to ship Nick and Lacroix that anyone that didn't see it was deliberately looking away. However in MM I just don't see it and it's not like I haven't tried. Someone did make a William/Pendrick video that I suspect was supposed to be slash but try as they may it didn't come off. This is why there is no slash fic, it's impossible to pair any of the guys and the one female pair has already been done. I'm not sure I could ever see Julia in a same sex relationship, it's just not there and she likes her sex too much! Yeah there just really isn't much opportunity for it on the show. You do have George & Henry which I'm honestly really surprised there aren't more people that ship them. |
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