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Post by Lucy on Sept 3, 2009 10:47:15 GMT
Original air date - 10th February 2009
When Alberta Moffat is found dead Murdoch begins to wonder what they have come up against. A Scotland Yard Inspector, Edward Scanlon, tells him that he's been persuing a suspect who he believes to be Jack the Ripper. Soon after there is another victim found, Gloria Abercrombie, who has recently moved to Toronto. Murdoch hopes that he can get a psychological profile of the killer from Dr. Roberts. Using a UV light, a new invention, he discovers where the murders took place. Dr. Ogden accepts Murdoch's invitation to the Dinasour Ball but they have one problem, Murdoch can't dance.
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 0:17:06 GMT
Trivia: The second murder victim, Gloria Abercrombie, is played by Dominique Bisson.
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 0:33:20 GMT
This was perhaps the 3 rd ep of MM I saw, and IIRC, it was the one that hooked me. The Victorian moodiness. The antique game. The creepy Alienist. The female coroner who took care of her own business. Adorkable waltz!phail with an evident OTP. Detectives on bicycles.
What more could I ask? If every episode of MM hit those notes, I'd die a happy woman.
One false note (for me) -I feel the last line about wanting to be held is the sort of maudlin cliche that belongs in bad fanfic. But other people seem to regard it as emotionally revealing.
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 0:42:49 GMT
This was perhaps the 3 rd ep of MM I saw, and IIRC, it was the one that hooked me. The Victorian moodiness. The antique game. The creepy Alienist. The female coroner who took care of her own business. Adorkable waltz!phail with an evident OTP. Detectives on bicycles. What more could I ask? If every episode of MM hit those notes, I'd die a happy woman. One false note (for me) -I feel the last line about wanting to be held is the sort of maudlin cliche that belongs in bad fanfic. But other people seem to regard it as emotionally revealing. Maudlin cliche perhaps but quite apropos in the situation. Victorian era single adults were not held. They were touched on the hand at best. Julia had been through a severe trauma...killing a man in self defence...and she needed to be held in order to process her grief/fear/anger. Yes it was a handy ploy to get William and Julia in close physical proximity but it was emotionally revealing in that she asked for comfort and he did not hesitate to give it. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 6:35:39 GMT
Maudlin cliche perhaps but quite apropos in the situation. Victorian era single adults were not held. They were touched on the hand at best. Julia had been through a severe trauma...killing a man in self defence...and she needed to be held in order to process her grief/fear/anger. Yes it was a handy ploy to get William and Julia in close physical proximity but it was emotionally revealing in that she asked for comfort and he did not hesitate to give it. I totally buy that reasoning and process. It's just the line itself I object, too. If it's such a taboo in the Victorian era, then perhaps Julia would have found a more indirect way of requesting her safety cuddle? |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 7:03:58 GMT
Maudlin cliche perhaps but quite apropos in the situation. Victorian era single adults were not held. They were touched on the hand at best. Julia had been through a severe trauma...killing a man in self defence...and she needed to be held in order to process her grief/fear/anger. Yes it was a handy ploy to get William and Julia in close physical proximity but it was emotionally revealing in that she asked for comfort and he did not hesitate to give it. I totally buy that reasoning and process. It's just the line itself I object, too. If it's such a taboo in the Victorian era, then perhaps Julia would have found a more indirect way of requesting her safety cuddle? But how and with whom without coming across as a brazen hussy? She's estranged from her family and doesn't have many female friends she can turn to. William is the logical and emotional choice. What would you rather she have said or done? |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:05:42 GMT
I totally buy that reasoning and process. It's just the line itself I object, too. If it's such a taboo in the Victorian era, then perhaps Julia would have found a more indirect way of requesting her safety cuddle? But how and with whom without coming across as a brazen hussy? She's estranged from her family and doesn't have many female friends she can turn to. William is the logical and emotional choice. What would you rather she have said or done? She is already dancing with him. Something like "Closer, please." might work.  |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 7:10:40 GMT
But how and with whom without coming across as a brazen hussy? She's estranged from her family and doesn't have many female friends she can turn to. William is the logical and emotional choice. What would you rather she have said or done? She is already dancing with him. Something like "Closer, please." might work. He'd think she was being scandalous and would start analyzing. I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:13:34 GMT
She is already dancing with him. Something like "Closer, please." might work. He'd think she was being scandalous and would start analyzing. I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. "I want to be held" seems a bit more raunchy to me. But I'm in the minority. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 7:19:49 GMT
He'd think she was being scandalous and would start analyzing. I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. "I want to be held" seems a bit more raunchy to me. But I'm in the minority. I believe her words were the more Victorian version, "I would very much like to be held". Awww. She'd just stabbed a serial killer. She needed a hug. I'd be asking William too! There was also that look of relief on her face once he had stepped closer. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:25:08 GMT
"I want to be held" seems a bit more raunchy to me. But I'm in the minority. I believe her words were the more Victorian version, "I would very much like to be held". Awww. She'd just stabbed a serial killer. She needed a hug. I'd be asking William too! There was also that look of relief on her face once he had stepped closer. I agree she needed a hug - and I love that she got it. I love the look on William's face when he gave it - that was William's chance to man up, too! This is solely about the wording of the request for me. I've just read far too much fanfic to be able to listen to "I want to be held" with a straight face. It's like someone saying "It felt like coming home" to describe their climax. How about: "I couldn't be alone tonight" ...and William sensing that means to hold her closer? |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 7:28:55 GMT
I believe her words were the more Victorian version, "I would very much like to be held". Awww. She'd just stabbed a serial killer. She needed a hug. I'd be asking William too! There was also that look of relief on her face once he had stepped closer. I agree she needed a hug - and I love that she got it. I love the look on William's face when he gave it - that was William's chance to man up, too! This is solely about the wording of the request for me. I've just read far too much fanfic to be able to listen to "I want to be held" with a straight face. It's like someone saying "It felt like coming home" to describe their climax. How about: "I couldn't be alone tonight" ...and William sensing that means to hold her closer? That would definitely have worked!  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:29:55 GMT
I agree she needed a hug - and I love that she got it. I love the look on William's face when he gave it - that was William's chance to man up, too! This is solely about the wording of the request for me. I've just read far too much fanfic to be able to listen to "I want to be held" with a straight face. It's like someone saying "It felt like coming home" to describe their climax. How about: "I couldn't be alone tonight" ...and William sensing that means to hold her closer? That would definitely have worked! I would have been a lot more happy with anything along those lines. Just a little more indirect than "I want to be held". |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 7:36:15 GMT
That would definitely have worked! I would have been a lot more happy with anything along those lines. Just a little more indirect than "I want to be held". Fair enough, but I suspect she was too overwrought to risk anything other than the direct approach. Yes, it could have been written differently. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:37:23 GMT
I would have been a lot more happy with anything along those lines. Just a little more indirect than "I want to be held". Fair enough, but I suspect she was too overwrought to risk anything other than the direct approach. Yes, it could have been written differently. And there was only 3 seconds left of screen time to burn~  |
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