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Post by Hodge on Jul 2, 2015 20:37:08 GMT
I loved that William tried to make up with Julia at the end by inviting her to a battery exhibit! Way to go William, I'm sure she'd love that! Further to the crossover Ted Atherton was also in Nothing Too Good for a Cowboy with YB. I am kind of surprised William took the initiative to try and make up with her without any hint or push from Julia or anyone else! Usually he has to be prodded into the opportunity. And now that I think of it, poor guy, many of the times when he did take the initiative it didn't go well! It may explain why he took up with Enid. He'd tried to make up with Julia and been rebuffed so what the hell. Then of course Julia gets jealous! Poor guy can't win. |
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Post by lea on Jul 2, 2015 20:48:22 GMT
I am kind of surprised William took the initiative to try and make up with her without any hint or push from Julia or anyone else! Usually he has to be prodded into the opportunity. And now that I think of it, poor guy, many of the times when he did take the initiative it didn't go well! It may explain why he took up with Enid. He'd tried to make up with Julia and been rebuffed so what the hell. Then of course Julia gets jealous! Poor guy can't win. I like to think this was intentional on William's part.  |
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Post by snacky on Jul 3, 2015 4:12:10 GMT
It may explain why he took up with Enid. He'd tried to make up with Julia and been rebuffed so what the hell. Then of course Julia gets jealous! Poor guy can't win. I like to think this was intentional on William's part. Yes, I think William was attracted to Enid, but his thought to *date* her was all about getting back at Julia.  |
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Post by snacky on Jul 3, 2015 4:35:02 GMT
I am kind of surprised William took the initiative to try and make up with her without any hint or push from Julia or anyone else! Usually he has to be prodded into the opportunity. And now that I think of it, poor guy, many of the times when he did take the initiative it didn't go well! We had a long theory thread going at one time about how William waits to be invited for stuff. The battery exhibit is an interesting exception, and tragically punished. This is part of what I don't like about William's character change in Season 8, though, which reduces his issues to just being a lonely bachelor. Now his problems are fixed by marriage. His character is a lot more interesting with elaborate psychological flaws. |
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Post by lea on Jul 3, 2015 13:53:43 GMT
I am kind of surprised William took the initiative to try and make up with her without any hint or push from Julia or anyone else! Usually he has to be prodded into the opportunity. And now that I think of it, poor guy, many of the times when he did take the initiative it didn't go well! We had a long theory thread going at one time about how William waits to be invited for stuff. The battery exhibit is an interesting exception, and tragically punished. This is part of what I don't like about William's character change in Season 8, though, which reduces his issues to just being a lonely bachelor. Now his problems are fixed by marriage. His character is a lot more interesting with elaborate psychological flaws. There's definitely no way that marriage could have or should have fixed his problems. Which is also somewhat curious since there seemed to be a lot missing in their marriage throughout season 8. |
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Post by blackkeya on Jul 20, 2015 5:37:13 GMT
Interesting little thing I noticed during the episode:
In the last scene you can hear Debussy's Claire de Lune playing on a record in the background. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this portion of the series took place in the 1890's. Funny thing is, Claire de Lune wasn't published until 1905.
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Post by bookworm1225 on Jul 20, 2015 13:17:35 GMT
Interesting little thing I noticed during the episode: In the last scene you can hear Debussy's Claire de Lune playing on a record in the background. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this portion of the series took place in the 1890's. Funny thing is, Claire de Lune wasn't published until 1905. Yes, I'd noticed that, too! What I'm not sure about is whether a piece of music like that had to be published before it could be performed and recorded. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 24, 2016 16:24:57 GMT
Interesting little thing I noticed during the episode: In the last scene you can hear Debussy's Claire de Lune playing on a record in the background. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this portion of the series took place in the 1890's. Funny thing is, Claire de Lune wasn't published until 1905. Yes, I'd noticed that, too! What I'm not sure about is whether a piece of music like that had to be published before it could be performed and recorded. Debussy actually started to write the Suite Bergamasque in 1890. Claire de Lune was the 3rd movement of 4 in the composition. It is possible that the work was performed before it was published but not likely recorded. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 24, 2016 16:29:38 GMT
Something has always bothered me about the scene in the lecture hall where William lectures on applied physics. Why was Julia there? Was it to make a connection between W and J in front of James Gillies? Did the writers already have plans for the return of James Gillies? I don't see how that's possible when the show's renewal was never a given this early in it's run.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 25, 2016 13:33:59 GMT
Something has always bothered me about the scene in the lecture hall where William lectures on applied physics. Why was Julia there? Was it to make a connection between W and J in front of James Gillies? Did the writers already have plans for the return of James Gillies? I don't see how that's possible when the show's renewal was never a given this early in it's run. I never thought about a connection in front of Gillies. I always thought William was showboating for Julia, showing that he still wanted to impress her. Maybe he asked her along? I must admit that I'm not positive why she came. Did the inspector invite her? Given that she still had feelings for William, did she want to see him in his element? Was he really what she thought he was? |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 25, 2016 16:52:19 GMT
Something has always bothered me about the scene in the lecture hall where William lectures on applied physics. Why was Julia there? Was it to make a connection between W and J in front of James Gillies? Did the writers already have plans for the return of James Gillies? I don't see how that's possible when the show's renewal was never a given this early in it's run. I never thought about a connection in front of Gillies. I always thought William was showboating for Julia, showing that he still wanted to impress her. Maybe he asked her along? I must admit that I'm not positive why she came. Did the inspector invite her? Given that she still had feelings for William, did she want to see him in his element? Was he really what she thought he was? I don't think William would have issued the invitation, nor would she have accepted because they were positively wooden with each other in this episode. It was painful to watch because they do still have feelings for each other but Julia had already run away emotionally out of fear, never giving William an opportunity to consider his response. The only thing I can think of is she was there to see George "return from the dead", but that is a stretch. |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 25, 2016 18:44:19 GMT
I never thought about a connection in front of Gillies. I always thought William was showboating for Julia, showing that he still wanted to impress her. Maybe he asked her along? I must admit that I'm not positive why she came. Did the inspector invite her? Given that she still had feelings for William, did she want to see him in his element? Was he really what she thought he was? I don't think William would have issued the invitation, nor would she have accepted because they were positively wooden with each other in this episode. It was painful to watch because they do still have feelings for each other but Julia had already run away emotionally out of fear, never giving William an opportunity to consider his response. The only thing I can think of is she was there to see George "return from the dead", but that is a stretch. As she walked in with the Inspector I suspect he invited her, not necessarily knowing about the rift with William. I don't think she would have turned down the invitation as she would be interested in seeing how William performed. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 25, 2016 22:08:40 GMT
I don't think William would have issued the invitation, nor would she have accepted because they were positively wooden with each other in this episode. It was painful to watch because they do still have feelings for each other but Julia had already run away emotionally out of fear, never giving William an opportunity to consider his response. The only thing I can think of is she was there to see George "return from the dead", but that is a stretch. As she walked in with the Inspector I suspect he invited her, not necessarily knowing about the rift with William. I don't think she would have turned down the invitation as she would be interested in seeing how William performed. I agree the that it was probably the Inspector who invited her and she may have come out of curiosity, but I don't believe she would have gone if William had done the inviting. |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 25, 2016 23:32:02 GMT
As she walked in with the Inspector I suspect he invited her, not necessarily knowing about the rift with William. I don't think she would have turned down the invitation as she would be interested in seeing how William performed. I agree the that it was probably the Inspector who invited her and she may have come out of curiosity, but I don't believe she would have gone if William had done the inviting. Given how she was behaving I don't think she would either. However I don't think the Inspector knew about the rift and she possibly didn't want him to know. |
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