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Nov 22, 2014 5:05:45 GMT
Post by Hodge on Nov 22, 2014 5:05:45 GMT
Of course this doesn't tally with what William said in Glass Ceiling when he said he spent two winters at a logging camp where he met a former constable. He made it sound like he came straight to Toronto from the logging camp but he'd have another three years before becoming a constable if he went to logging camp at 17. He also said he went to the logging camp from Montreal so he must have spent some time there after school. Don't forget he spent some time as a ranch hand. Since logging is seasonal work he could have done a variety of jobs for years. During Glass Ceiling, he might have undersold the time he was at a logging camp so he would sound less "manual labor" or minimize the time he spent as an aimless youth. Or he meant he was at the logging camp the 2 winters prior to becoming a constable (but a ranch hand before that...and at the logging camp before that). Perhaps it was just too complicated an answer for a concise reply to a job interview question? Perhaps at some point William had lied about his age and needed to keep his story consistent.  This is just another early season inconsistency and it's infuriating.  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 5:08:27 GMT
Don't forget he spent some time as a ranch hand. Since logging is seasonal work he could have done a variety of jobs for years. During Glass Ceiling, he might have undersold the time he was at a logging camp so he would sound less "manual labor" or minimize the time he spent as an aimless youth. Or he meant he was at the logging camp the 2 winters prior to becoming a constable (but a ranch hand before that...and at the logging camp before that). Perhaps it was just too complicated an answer for a concise reply to a job interview question? Perhaps at some point William had lied about his age and needed to keep his story consistent. This is just another early season inconsistency and it's infuriating. Or...William is lying. Something happened before the 2 winters in the logging camp that he doesn't want to bring up. He may or may not have come from Montreal. Because...he's lying.  |
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Nov 22, 2014 5:16:56 GMT
Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 5:16:56 GMT
This is just another early season inconsistency and it's infuriating. Being infuriated will just give you an ulcer. But if you can come up with an "out" for it, you will feel great cosmic inner peace.  I'm already liking the theory that straight-laced William has been covering up something in front of us all along: there's FallenBelle's skeleton in the closet! |
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Nov 22, 2014 13:52:22 GMT
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 22, 2014 13:52:22 GMT
This is just another early season inconsistency and it's infuriating. Being infuriated will just give you an ulcer. But if you can come up with an "out" for it, you will feel great cosmic inner peace. I'm already liking the theory that straight-laced William has been covering up something in front of us all along: there's FallenBelle's skeleton in the closet! Yes, let's have William:the forgotten years.  |
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Nov 22, 2014 15:24:46 GMT
Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 22, 2014 15:24:46 GMT
Of course this doesn't tally with what William said in Glass Ceiling when he said he spent two winters at a logging camp where he met a former constable. He made it sound like he came straight to Toronto from the logging camp but he'd have another three years before becoming a constable if he went to logging camp at 17. He also said he went to the logging camp from Montreal so he must have spent some time there after school. Don't forget he spent some time as a ranch hand. Since logging is seasonal work he could have done a variety of jobs for years. During Glass Ceiling, he might have undersold the time he was at a logging camp so he would sound less "manual labor" or minimize the time he spent as an aimless youth. Or he meant he was at the logging camp the 2 winters prior to becoming a constable (but a ranch hand before that...and at the logging camp before that). Perhaps it was just too complicated an answer for a concise reply to a job interview question? Perhaps at some point William had lied about his age and needed to keep his story consistent. One of the few accurate enteries in the FB timeline has William doing his ranch stuff during the summers while he was at school with the Jesuits. |
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Nov 22, 2014 18:14:04 GMT
Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 18:14:04 GMT
Being infuriated will just give you an ulcer. But if you can come up with an "out" for it, you will feel great cosmic inner peace. I'm already liking the theory that straight-laced William has been covering up something in front of us all along: there's FallenBelle's skeleton in the closet! Yes, let's have William:the forgotten years. What do you think of the prospect of William lying about something from the start of the series even though he's such an honest, upright character? |
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 19:25:31 GMT
Hmm - that might work, given how young the ranch hands were on Nothing Too Good for a Cowboy (though it seemed they were desperate because of the war was sapping off working-age men). That would mean William didn't go home to his Aunt (or to be with Susannah) from a fairly young age: he was self-supporting from his early teens. That might shed some light on his attitude toward Dory and earlier episodes with street kids and children who were indentured servants on farms. He was one of the child laborers from an early age...? But as Talbotrail mentioned, this is going to leave a big gap in his resume. I think he can be a ranch hand during his logging years because both ranch hand work and logging are seasonal labor. Rich on Nothing Too Good for a Cowboy did both. Saying you worked in logging is the same as saying you spent your youth "kicking around", I think. (usually it also means gambling and drinking!) William may have been saving his money up for something, though. I wonder what for. To "rescue" Susannah? But then she became a nun. Or he may have been saving up to become a Self-Made Man of some sort: perhaps he originally had his own business plan before he became a constable. Anyway, I'm with Talbotrail in that I think the MM writing team should explain those missing years in an interesting way that doesn't contradict Glass Ceiling. |
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Nov 27, 2014 23:46:03 GMT
Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 27, 2014 23:46:03 GMT
okay i updated this one (well all of them really). whattaya think? Windsor House Hotel. Mrs. Kitchen claims William loves her beef stew (in 1902). Jasper? If he did have a touch of aspergers, he's almost completely socialized beyond it now. Afraid of butterflies! (I know, I'm in denial about that one, too.) I thought William just went to a school taught by Jesuits: where did the idea that he wanted to become a priest come from? Jesuits run are known for running schools in general. In William's case, I thought it was a quasi-orphanage/boarding school. In the "Rebel and the Prince" it is Murdoch's friend Eddie Drescoll (who he met at the logging camp) who went to seminary school. |
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Dec 6, 2014 4:47:40 GMT
Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 4:47:40 GMT
As per Murdoch in Wonderland, William was a constable at Station House 1.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:40:46 GMT
Post by urbanperegrine on Dec 18, 2015 23:40:46 GMT
In re William and the priesthood, as I recall it, his sister expressed the past hope that he would become a priest when they met again, but it seemed to me that other people had that dream for him. My takeaway from that exchange was that she wanted that fate for him, particularly since she also criticizes him for his curiosity and taxes him about losing his faith. His responses seemed noncommittal at best.
It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that others at the Jesuit school suggested it to him or even tried to recruit him into the clerical ranks. That may even have been behind his departure from the school at 17.
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