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Post by barbarama on Dec 24, 2013 0:36:27 GMT
As per IMDb
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Dec 24, 2013 15:40:09 GMT
After a death-bed murder confession leads to a body, Murdoch suspects the true killer is still out there. Airs: Jan 20, 2014
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 21, 2014 3:42:43 GMT
Pros: -The not so subtle jab(s) at the Ford brothers -Yannick speaking French -happy Jilliam
Cons: -The case was too obvious. Would it kill them to throw in a red herring once in awhile? (I think I've been saying that this whole season) -Dragging out the Gemily affair -Dragging out the Jilliam affair
Other thoughts: -Leslie is likely behind the (typed) threat to Julia, not Gillies, so things are maybe not as bad as they seem at first glance. However, regardless of who is behind this development, it's certain that trouble is ahead for Jilliam. Which explains why we got an overdose of happy Jilliam in the last few eps. -I think Murdoch may try to get Julia a permanent position on the team as a profiler! Of course with all the drama coming up, it won't be any time soon. Perhaps by S8 though when they are married?
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Post by barbarama on Jan 21, 2014 13:23:19 GMT
I did love this episode (well except for the last minute). I thought the case was really strong and compelling with the 2 murders being linked, only few seconds before William I realized who was the other murderer so kudos to the writers for that. I liked how William & Julia worked well together to solve their "1st case" and all the romantic moments (the apparition of that ring always put a smile on my face). I was also glad that George confronted Leslie but this guy ...he's hiding something bad and the probability that he's blackmailing Emily is highly possible. Now regarding the end…why oh why angst is back so soon!!!! Couldn't we just have a couple more episodes without the shadow of James Gillies looming around. Me who's usually optimistic I'm almost sure next week we'll be left in a limbo and won't find out what will happen before March 3rd. This maniac (or his ghost) is worst than a feral cat, how many times the guy can escape death ….that is becoming unrealistic (if he's still alive of course)!!!! I can't wait for next week but the strong possibility of a cliffhanger is waving on my mind!!!
P.S: Comic Cavalcade, you must be very good at figuring out cases because it was definitely not that obvious to me, that's why I liked it so much. Julia full time as a profiler yes, yes and yes!!!! If she's interested of course and after they are engaged obviously (because I know they will be!!!)
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 21, 2014 15:20:42 GMT
I wouldn't have known what was going on so fast except for the fact that I knew of the plot to Strangers on a Train...and the younger brother was portrayed as an idiot so I figured it had to be the other Johnston. Yes, I do agree that he's blackmailing Emily in some way as well. I don't think he's threatened her or George's life though. I think he's just got some serious dirt on Emily, possibly criminal stuff, that would ruin her career if it became public knowledge. I'm also afraid we'll get a cliffhanger...though could CBC really be that mean to us....Yup. So when everyone is mopping next ep, Brax will wonder what on earth is going on and investigate...hopefully.
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Post by barbarama on Jan 21, 2014 22:52:20 GMT
I'm having high hopes regarding "Brackenreid to the rescue"!! indeed
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Post by shangas on Jan 21, 2014 23:10:02 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode. But I'm getting REALLY SICK of this Gillies bullshit. Track him down and do what they did in Medieval England - Hang, draw and quarter. Problem solved.
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Post by carco on Jan 21, 2014 23:38:20 GMT
I wouldn't have known what was going on so fast except for the fact that I knew of the plot to Strangers on a Train...and the younger brother was portrayed as an idiot so I figured it had to be the other Johnston. Yes, I do agree that he's blackmailing Emily in some way as well. I don't think he's threatened her or George's life though. I think he's just got some serious dirt on Emily, possibly criminal stuff, that would ruin her career if it became public knowledge. I'm also afraid we'll get a cliffhanger...though could CBC really be that mean to us....Yup. So when everyone is mopping next ep, Brax will wonder what on earth is going on and investigate...hopefully. Agree with your posts CosmicCavalcade and also Barbarama's but I did not figure out the murder plot. But I didn't see Strangers on a Train either. Loved the Johnston brothers who were clearly a parody of the Ford boys. BTW, Seeing today's news, I guess Rob did not see the MM show last night as he was busy putting on one of his own again....sigh. I don't think we'll get a cliffhanger as far as William and Julia are concerned but if Leslie is blackmailing Emily, then I guess that arc could go into S8 (fingers crossed there is one). Brackenreid was so getting a kick out of W & J working together that I can definitely see him catching on to a "heartbroken" William (Jonny Harris's words) and a sad George. The "supervisor" in me agrees that he will get to the bottom of things pretty quick ...whether he sits them down for a heart to heart (which I don't think is Brackenreid's style) or he will find out for himself what the common denominator is and knowing Brack he will simply "follow the money". Meanwhile I really did enjoy last night's episode and it seemed quite fast paced too.
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Jan 22, 2014 0:18:51 GMT
Honestly I'm pretty exasperated with the whole W/J on off again thing along with Gillies. It is really beginning to irritated me. The storylines regarding it are old and out dated.
Other than my general annoyance at the ending-I thought that this was a pretty good episode.
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Post by carolion on Jan 22, 2014 0:29:01 GMT
I quite like the ep, but I too have seen strangers on a train so got it fairly quickly. I have another theory regarding Julia's mysterious letter…Gillies has recruited Leslie into his terrible plot against Julia and William. Leslie gave them the opera tickets and it was at the opera that the photo was taken..or.. Leslie is impersonating Gillies. Hopefully it is the later and Gillies body washes up on a shore somewhere in future eps and Leslie is found out. In regards to Emily's letter, I don't think he would send a black mail letter using his personalised stationery. I think there has been some hanky panky there and Emily has a massive case of the guilts…AS SHE SHOULD!!!!
The Ford brothers!? is this a reference to the Toronto Mayor?
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 22, 2014 1:31:18 GMT
I quite like the ep, but I too have seen strangers on a train so got it fairly quickly. I have another theory regarding Julia's mysterious letter…Gillies has recruited Leslie into his terrible plot against Julia and William. Leslie gave them the opera tickets and it was at the opera that the photo was taken..or.. Leslie is impersonating Gillies. Hopefully it is the later and Gillies body washes up on a shore somewhere in future eps and Leslie is found out. In regards to Emily's letter, I don't think he would send a black mail letter using his personalised stationery. I think there has been some hanky panky there and Emily has a massive case of the guilts…AS SHE SHOULD!!!! The Ford brothers!? is this a reference to the Toronto Mayor? But why would Leslie work with the man who killed his brother? Well, if he wanted everyone to believe they were involved when actually it wasn't like that at all, then he would use his own stationary. And if what he had on her was of a criminal nature that would cause her to be fired if anyone found out about it, he'd be safe from her tattling on him. And I believed him when he said it would be inappropriate to court Emily while George was. Yes, Doug and Rob Ford. Not something to do with Henry Ford who invented cars.
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Post by carolion on Jan 22, 2014 7:51:20 GMT
I quite like the ep, but I too have seen strangers on a train so got it fairly quickly. I have another theory regarding Julia's mysterious letter…Gillies has recruited Leslie into his terrible plot against Julia and William. Leslie gave them the opera tickets and it was at the opera that the photo was taken..or.. Leslie is impersonating Gillies. Hopefully it is the later and Gillies body washes up on a shore somewhere in future eps and Leslie is found out. In regards to Emily's letter, I don't think he would send a black mail letter using his personalised stationery. I think there has been some hanky panky there and Emily has a massive case of the guilts…AS SHE SHOULD!!!! The Ford brothers!? is this a reference to the Toronto Mayor? But why would Leslie work with the man who killed his brother? Well, if he wanted everyone to believe they were involved when actually it wasn't like that at all, then he would use his own stationary. And if what he had on her was of a criminal nature that would cause her to be fired if anyone found out about it, he'd be safe from her tattling on him. And I believed him when he said it would be inappropriate to court Emily while George was. Yes, Doug and Rob Ford. Not something to do with Henry Ford who invented cars. Gillies could be working under a pseudonym. I just think it is weird that Leslie gave them the tickets and that was where the photo was taken; too much of a coincidence. And yes you are right re the stationery.
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Post by petruck on Jan 22, 2014 13:08:34 GMT
UGH... I love this show, it's right at the top of my favorites list, but even I have to say enough is enough. Having just gone through the exact same story line with Bone's I have to beg the writers to please please let Julia prove to be the one exception to the "Oh My God I have to do exactly what the bad guy says" rule and hand Murdoch the letter.
I was loving them working together, loving the stolen kisses and long hungry looks, and I would have happily gone on another season with just that, since the writers and producers of the show seem bent on not giving in to the shippers. ( I quote Mr. Bisson's "yes but do you really want them together?" to which my answer is a resounding He** YES!!)
But this tired old story line is too much. It's been done, over and over again in nearly every TV show since the whole "Moonlighting curse" erroneously came into being, not to mention every single soap opera has the bad-guy-keeping-them-apart theme in them at least twice.
While I agree that they probably won't leave us on a cliff hanger at the end of season 7, there is a very long break coming up after the next episode and I'm pretty sure this will be the cliff hanger for that.
As for George and Emily, I don't think LG is blackmailing Emily, I think she's feeling guilty. George's intentions towards her were honorable, and she know's that. She's an intelligent woman so she has to know that LG is not honorable, he's a womanizer and once he's had his fill of her he will move on to the next conquest. Emily wants her cake and eat it too, she wants the excitement of a fling with the hot bad boy, but she does not want to loose the possible future husband. The guilt is what she's finding hard to live with. I think poor George is heading for a broken heart, and the two of them will have many episodes before they work their way through that, along with the possibility that Emily might even end up having an illegitimate child. (at least that's my theory, and were I writing the series it's a possibility I would most definitely visit.)
I hope Guillies is out of it, he was a great bad guy, and a perfect Moriaty, but his story has gone dry, no more juice to it. Looking at that time in history there are so many exciting changes taking place, so many world changing events taking place, it's time to move on to the next challenging evil genius.
As for Julia, there is a world of story there being ignored for the will they won't they nonsense. I can only imagine the conflict it would cause in the Murdoch household if Mrs. Murdoch became a Suffragette, which we all know Julia is practically already, she just has not been given the title. I can just see our poor Murdoch trying to come to terms with a free thinking, not quite law abiding wife. We have already seen Darcy's problem coming to terms with Julia's determination to promote birth control.
While Murdoch considers Julia his equal and treats her as such, he is still a policeman and the suffragettes were on the wrong side of the law most of the time. Plenty of conflict there to keep everyone coming back for more, not to mention the religious differences. The show may not push it but Murdoch is a devout Catholic, he admits to going to church every Sunday, I'm not sure Julia would understand having what little time they have together made even less by Murdoch devotion to a God she does not believe in or accept.
So many juicy story lines waiting to be written, they really do not need to go for the trite old regurgitated one's.
Though despite my rant I will keep watching, in every other way this show is way above any other and I absolutely love it.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 22, 2014 16:52:02 GMT
But why would Leslie work with the man who killed his brother? Well, if he wanted everyone to believe they were involved when actually it wasn't like that at all, then he would use his own stationary. And if what he had on her was of a criminal nature that would cause her to be fired if anyone found out about it, he'd be safe from her tattling on him. And I believed him when he said it would be inappropriate to court Emily while George was. Yes, Doug and Rob Ford. Not something to do with Henry Ford who invented cars. Gillies could be working under a pseudonym. I just think it is weird that Leslie gave them the tickets and that was where the photo was taken; too much of a coincidence. And yes you are right re the stationery. Lol, that would be pretty funny if Gillies was framing Leslie this whole time and there's actually nothing fishy about his character at all! xD But that doesn't really make sense to me. At all. Hmm, I do see your point. It's almost a little too obvious so it might be a fake out on the writers parts and it might actually be Gillies. But I just find it too odd that out of all the people in the city Leslie could have taken an interest in, it just happens to be Emily. And if all the writers wanted to do was cause discord with Gemily, they could have used any guy to do this. But it was yet another Garland. And if he's not plotting against people, just what exactly is he doing in Toronto for so many months beside 'gardening' at his dead brothers house?
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Post by murdochic on Jan 22, 2014 19:20:02 GMT
Leslie is definitely up to something. His face when W/J walked off wasn't a friendly one. I have a feeling it's him who sent the letter and not Gillies. Unless Gillies is his partner. William and Julia make a very formidable team. Between them they make the perfect sleuth. They'll fix everything whether it's Leslie or Gillies. Though do they have to break them up just when an engagement might be happening. It's deja vu.
Emily is being a fool where Lesley's concerned. Her lies to George are making me like her less right now. They need to end their romance because it's unfair on George, she's not really into him.
The case was a blatant rip-off of Strangers on a Train and that was obvious quite quickly, but it was still enjoyable to watch and I liked it a lot more than last weeks episode.
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