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Post by bookworm1225 on Oct 31, 2014 13:38:54 GMT
In 'Invention Convention,' when he tells George he's cracked the code and George should arrest all five inventors, he sounds quite exited, and looks awfully smug. *chuckle*
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Post by sam on May 6, 2015 4:00:12 GMT
Sporting moments:
Friday the 13th, 1901 - When he makes the winning curling shot (before George admits to burning the rock) Stroll on the Wild Side, Part 2 - When he hits the winning homerun Murdoch Night in Canada - When he scores on Brackenreid
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Post by lea on May 6, 2015 17:58:14 GMT
One of my favourites was in the Tour de Murdoch episode when he was thrilled to death with the sprockets on his bike! This was easily one of my favorite moments from him. He was so over the top excited about it! We don't get to see that from him much.
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Post by snacky on May 9, 2015 7:20:46 GMT
One of my favourites was in the Tour de Murdoch episode when he was thrilled to death with the sprockets on his bike! This was easily one of my favorite moments from him. He was so over the top excited about it! We don't get to see that from him much. Now we have the moment at the end of Keystone Constables that sort of pwns them all. So much so that I question whether it's even in character. But everyone else here is convinced that there is just a "domestic side" of William that didn't come out until he married Julia.
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Post by snacky on May 9, 2015 7:26:19 GMT
Sporting moments: Friday the 13th, 1901 - When he makes the winning curling shot (before George admits to burning the rock) Stroll on the Wild Side, Part 2 - When he hits the winning homerun Murdoch Night in Canada - When he scores on Brackenreid William may appear mild mannered, but he has the same competitive guy sports thing going on as all other guys.
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Post by lea on May 11, 2015 20:35:38 GMT
This was easily one of my favorite moments from him. He was so over the top excited about it! We don't get to see that from him much. Now we have the moment at the end of Keystone Constables that sort of pwns them all. So much so that I question whether it's even in character. But everyone else here is convinced that there is just a "domestic side" of William that didn't come out until he married Julia. I'd peg it as slightly out of character as well. William has made like two jokes in 8 years. I wouldn't mind William to come out of his shell more and have more fun in that way, but that scene was just really out of the blue (I do love it, though). I probably would have thought it was a blooper if I hadn't seen it within an episode.
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Post by Fallenbelle on May 11, 2015 21:26:36 GMT
Now we have the moment at the end of Keystone Constables that sort of pwns them all. So much so that I question whether it's even in character. But everyone else here is convinced that there is just a "domestic side" of William that didn't come out until he married Julia. I'd peg it as slightly out of character as well. William has made like two jokes in 8 years. I wouldn't mind William to come out of his shell more and have more fun in that way, but that scene was just really out of the blue (I do love it, though). I probably would have thought it was a blooper if I hadn't seen it within an episode. I think it's fine, because William's at home with his lady ( something we hadn't really seen) and he's also regularly "getting some" as it were. Along with the awkward joke about George in MAS ( I think?) I believe we're supposed to infer that this is what William's like when he's not permanently sexually frustrated. He's loosened up a bit.
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Post by lea on May 12, 2015 2:34:36 GMT
I'd peg it as slightly out of character as well. William has made like two jokes in 8 years. I wouldn't mind William to come out of his shell more and have more fun in that way, but that scene was just really out of the blue (I do love it, though). I probably would have thought it was a blooper if I hadn't seen it within an episode. I think it's fine, because William's at home with his lady ( something we hadn't really seen) and he's also regularly "getting some" as it were. Along with the awkward joke about George in MAS ( I think?) I believe we're supposed to infer that this is what William's like when he's not permanently sexually frustrated. He's loosened up a bit. Lol, true true.
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Post by snacky on May 21, 2015 3:08:56 GMT
we're supposed to infer this is what William's like when he's not permanently sexually frustrated. Ugh I hate this argument! It feeks like immature male writers making women responsible for their problems. William's character was reticent enough to be deemed on the Aspergers spectrum at one point. But women are responsible for curing his sexual frustration? I don't buy it. This has been the lead in for men "needing" to own women for thousands of years. And it did look more like a blooper reel scene to me, cute s it was.
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Post by Hodge on May 21, 2015 4:05:53 GMT
we're supposed to infer this is what William's like when he's not permanently sexually frustrated. Ugh I hate this argument! It feeks like immature male writers making women responsible for their problems. William's character was reticent enough to be deemed on the Aspergers spectrum at one point. But women are responsible for curing his sexual frustration? I don't buy it. This has been the lead in for men "needing" to own women for thousands of years. And it did look more like a blooper reel scene to me, cute s it was. I believe it was only you that ascribed Aspergers to the early William. I just saw a severely repressed man caused by his education and beliefs.
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Post by lea on May 21, 2015 14:15:57 GMT
Ugh I hate this argument! It feeks like immature male writers making women responsible for their problems. William's character was reticent enough to be deemed on the Aspergers spectrum at one point. But women are responsible for curing his sexual frustration? I don't buy it. This has been the lead in for men "needing" to own women for thousands of years. And it did look more like a blooper reel scene to me, cute s it was. I believe it was only you that ascribed Aspergers to the early William. I just saw a severely repressed man caused by his education and beliefs. I also had someone tell me they thought this. I'm not so sure. He had a little bit of a though life growing up and many of his personal relationships ended tragically. I've always attributed that to his awkwardness.
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Post by Hodge on May 21, 2015 15:00:11 GMT
I believe it was only you that ascribed Aspergers to the early William. I just saw a severely repressed man caused by his education and beliefs. I also had someone tell me they thought this. I'm not so sure. He had a little bit of a though life growing up and many of his personal relationships ended tragically. I've always attributed that to his awkwardness. I agree about his life in general. He's had a lot of tragedy and disappointment, it's taken it's toll. He seems to have worked through it though and marriage is doing him the world of good!
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Post by Fallenbelle on May 21, 2015 20:40:47 GMT
we're supposed to infer this is what William's like when he's not permanently sexually frustrated. Ugh I hate this argument! It feeks like immature male writers making women responsible for their problems. William's character was reticent enough to be deemed on the Aspergers spectrum at one point. But women are responsible for curing his sexual frustration? I don't buy it. This has been the lead in for men "needing" to own women for thousands of years. And it did look more like a blooper reel scene to me, cute s it was. I don't perceive it as male writers blaming women at all. William's the king of sexual repression and it's as a result of his upbringing and experiences-if anything, William was propositioned by women and we always saw him squirm his way out. This was William's fault-though I hesitate to use the word fault. I do agree early William was rather Aspergersish, but I think he was just meant to be a socially awkward guy figuring out how to interact with people. This was a boy who pretty much lost his entire family at once, and had no one but his books and Jesuit priests to rely upon. I would have taken issue with the show if they had portrayed the matter as being the fault of women-they didn't, IMO. I thought that scene along with the awkward joke about George were meant to denote that William's a married man now, and he's "loosened up" a bit.
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Post by snacky on May 25, 2015 8:10:00 GMT
Ugh I hate this argument! It feeks like immature male writers making women responsible for their problems. William's character was reticent enough to be deemed on the Aspergers spectrum at one point. But women are responsible for curing his sexual frustration? I don't buy it. This has been the lead in for men "needing" to own women for thousands of years. And it did look more like a blooper reel scene to me, cute s it was. I believe it was only you that ascribed Aspergers to the early William. I just saw a severely repressed man caused by his education and beliefs. It wasn't me - I got that from reading remarks on several forums before I even started regularly viewing the show. It was actually one of the points of interest for the earlier (Season 1-4) audience of MM. But if YB was ever playing it that way, he was moving away from it from Season 2 on. Yet once a character has been played a particular way, that is part of the show's world. It can't be dismissed: it can only be transformed within the terms of that world. Those who believe William was only repressed or suffering from sexual frustration before can apparently resolve the idea of William just "loosening up" later in the show. While I see character growth as an important ingredient of the show, if the actor isn't always working with the original materials it "breaks the rubberband". It's not just the smile. William smiling has been used in a lot of episodes as a pleasant surprise for the audience. Perhaps it was the combination with the relaxed setting. During the other times the happiness was a bit awkward because William was barely breaking the surface of his formal mode. This was a 100% casual, so that's why it seemed like it wasn't William at all but YB on the blooper reel.
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Post by Hodge on May 25, 2015 8:49:57 GMT
I believe it was only you that ascribed Aspergers to the early William. I just saw a severely repressed man caused by his education and beliefs. It wasn't me - I got that from reading remarks on several forums before I even started regularly viewing the show. It was actually one of the points of interest for the earlier (Season 1-4) audience of MM. But if YB was ever playing it that way, he was moving away from it from Season 2 on. Yet once a character has been played a particular way, that is part of the show's world. It can't be dismissed: it can only be transformed within the terms of that world. Those who believe William was only repressed or suffering from sexual frustration before can apparently resolve the idea of William just "loosening up" later in the show. While I see character growth as an important ingredient of the show, if the actor isn't always working with the original materials it "breaks the rubberband". It's not just the smile. William smiling has been used in a lot of episodes as a pleasant surprise for the audience. Perhaps it was the combination with the relaxed setting. During the other times the happiness was a bit awkward because William was barely breaking the surface of his formal mode. This was a 100% casual, so that's why it seemed like it wasn't William at all but YB on the blooper reel. The whoopee cushion was out of character for William if you just take the final scene into consideration but if you include the scene where he's making it it makes much more sense. He wanted to make Julia laugh and he put a lot of serious thought and effort into making the whoopee cushion. That is typical William. I think the cushion worked much better than Yannick expected and that's where the scene deviated. As far as the Aspergers is concerned, Yannick said he played William a little too stiff (my words) in the beginning and it was hard to play more emotional stuff. However the writers have managed to loosen him up a lot over the years and I actually think it made him a more interesting character. So, he was never intended to be Aspergers regardless of what people thought.
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