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Post by snacky on Mar 4, 2014 22:55:58 GMT
As much as I cheer on Jilliam, I don't want to see them married yet: that would signal the end of Murdoch Mysteries is nigh. The folks who go on strike and take hostages to try to force their marriage don't seem to understand that.
However, MM is rapidly running out of obstacles, and most of the obstacles left are horrible cliches. I'm going to list some here as a way of requesting/stimulating more creative solutions.
1) Amnesia...for a whole season.
2) Abduction...by bad guys and/or aliens.
3) Grave illness. (Consumption or, in William's case, something like a brain tumor that would threaten his intellect and identity).
4) Opium addiction (William might start taking something to ease the pain...)
5) Julia and William finally marry...but it turns out to be a dream, and a whole season never happened.
6) William has to go under deep cover for a case that lasts over many episodes.
7) Julia goes to jail/on trial for her beliefs. Perhaps she facilitates an abortion?
8) Julia's family forbids the marriage for some reason.
9) Either William or Julia need to marry someone else to help them gain Canadian citizenship.
10) Julia is hypnotized/mesmerized into doing someone else's will...and that someone doesn't want her to marry William.
That's 10 I can think of off the top of my head. Perhaps I'll cruise on over to TV Tropes to find some more...
List continued...
11) Carriage runs over William or Julia on the way to the wedding (re: An Affair to Remember)
12) Julia in prison for suffragette activities.
13) Either Julia or William has to go into hiding.
14) Wedding crasher gives reason they cannot be married.
15) Julia falls asleep in field of poppies.
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Post by MelodyPond101 on Mar 17, 2014 20:40:23 GMT
2.) Abduction by bad guys AND aliens sounds good to me. I'm sure Gillies gets along well with the Martians, and they can work together against W/J. XD
3.) William has already watched his fiancé die of consumption. I don't want to see him go through that again. The idea of a brain tumor is interesting; however- and I'm not a history student or teacher, so correct me if you know better- I'm not sure that there was much successful treatment for that back then. He'd likely die, and then it WOULD be the end of Murdoch Mysteries.
5.) AHAHA! I like it! Basically, the writers pulling the rug out from under us quite evilly. Sounds like something that I'd do.
6.) I'd rather see Julia go undercover, actually. It could be an interesting story arch that underlies many episodes; as she's undercover, William will be working his usual cases, and we'll get little glimpses of her progress.
7.) Julia on trial and in jail? Already done. It was depressing. I didn't like it. Well, the first time- with the contraception clinic- was all right, I suppose. The season six finale was annoying, though.
8.) Julia doesn't really have any family, does she? She's not close to her father, her mother is dead, and her younger sister wouldn't have any authority. Besides, she's not exactly a young girl. She decides her own future, and can't really be ordered about. Marrying William probably isn't the most scandalous thing that she's ever done, and she's never mentioned any family restrictions before.
9) Again, I can see Julia doing this, but not William.
10.) A liiiiiiiiiitle too sci-fi for Murdoch Mysteries. XD
11.) Aw, man, that would suck!
15.) This is my favorite. I vote for it. XD
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Post by snacky on Mar 18, 2014 4:57:18 GMT
We need some more ideas! Though it's hard to beat #15, lol.
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Post by lovemondays on Apr 5, 2014 19:32:15 GMT
What if Sally Pendrick kidnaps Julia and takes her to a remote cabin in New York? I've also wondered if maybe Sally was somehow related to the Garland family...the Buffalo connection. That could lead to Leslie getting involved. They both have reasons to keep William and Julia apart. It could take William weeks to find her while still solving murders at home.
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Post by snacky on Apr 5, 2014 20:28:36 GMT
What if Sally Pendrick kidnaps Julia and takes her to a remote cabin in New York? I've also wondered if maybe Sally was somehow related to the Garland family...the Buffalo connection. That could lead to Leslie getting involved. They both have reasons to keep William and Julia apart. It could take William weeks to find her while still solving murders at home. I can see Sally Pendrick seducing Leslie Garland - he's not as bright as he thinks he is, and she would be his entree into alcohol-soaked bohemian nouveau-riche parties. I think they'd probably find each oher in New York. I can't quite see the motive for kidnapping Julia, though. Why not just kill her for revenge? Or perhaps the target is William. Gillies targeted Julia because of William. Leslie wants to punish Julia, so attacking William is the way to do that. Sally Pendrick would also be focused on William since he's the one who foiled her plans: but she's vain enough to think she could supplant Julia - no need to kidnap her. |
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Post by carco on Apr 6, 2014 22:04:33 GMT
As much as I cheer on Jilliam, I don't want to see them married yet: that would signal the end of Murdoch Mysteries is nigh. The folks who go on strike and take hostages to try to force their marriage don't seem to understand that. However, MM is rapidly running out of obstacles, and most of the obstacles left are horrible cliches. I'm going to list some here as a way of requesting/stimulating more creative solutions. 1) Amnesia...for a whole season. 2) Abduction...by bad guys and/or aliens. 3) Grave illness. (Consumption or, in William's case, something like a brain tumor that would threaten his intellect and identity). 4) Opium addiction (William might start taking something to ease the pain...) 5) Julia and William finally marry...but it turns out to be a dream, and a whole season never happened. 6) William has to go under deep cover for a case that lasts over many episodes. 7) Julia goes to jail/on trial for her beliefs. Perhaps she facilitates an abortion? 8) Julia's family forbids the marriage for some reason. 9) Either William or Julia need to marry someone else to help them gain Canadian citizenship. 10) Julia is hypnotized/mesmerized into doing someone else's will...and that someone doesn't want her to marry William. That's 10 I can think of off the top of my head. Perhaps I'll cruise on over to TV Tropes to find some more... List continued... 11) Carriage runs over William or Julia on the way to the wedding (re: An Affair to Remember) 12) Julia in prison for suffragette activities. 13) Either Julia or William has to go into hiding. 14) Wedding crasher gives reason they cannot be married. 15) Julia falls asleep in field of poppies. - it's the end of Season 10 of the series which is now just called MURDOCH as no more mysteries could be dreamed up. - we are finally watching, what we hope will be, an uninterrupted wedding ceremony now that William and Julia are both fully recovered from their respective opium addiction and coma (due to opium poisoning from falling asleep in a field of poppies). -Julia's court case involving her suffragette activities has been postponed until a new judge can be found as the last judge hearing her case was jailed for jury tampering in an un-related case. How does that even happen??? -The damage to the church from last week's fire was quickly repaired although the smell of charred pews still hangs heavy in the air and one wall remains missing but it is early summer so that is not a problem today. -Henry and George are overly-excited about a special surprise they have been planning for some time and after the happy couple leave the church, the constables open the box they are holding and within seconds 25-30 live butterflies flutter towards William and Julia. -unfortunately, the incident resulted in William requiring re-hab for his opium addiction. Julia visits him often and they apparently expect to begin their life as a normal married couple in the near future (but we know better  ) |
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Post by snacky on Apr 6, 2014 23:32:15 GMT
As much as I cheer on Jilliam, I don't want to see them married yet: that would signal the end of Murdoch Mysteries is nigh. The folks who go on strike and take hostages to try to force their marriage don't seem to understand that. However, MM is rapidly running out of obstacles, and most of the obstacles left are horrible cliches. I'm going to list some here as a way of requesting/stimulating more creative solutions. 1) Amnesia...for a whole season. 2) Abduction...by bad guys and/or aliens. 3) Grave illness. (Consumption or, in William's case, something like a brain tumor that would threaten his intellect and identity). 4) Opium addiction (William might start taking something to ease the pain...) 5) Julia and William finally marry...but it turns out to be a dream, and a whole season never happened. 6) William has to go under deep cover for a case that lasts over many episodes. 7) Julia goes to jail/on trial for her beliefs. Perhaps she facilitates an abortion? 8) Julia's family forbids the marriage for some reason. 9) Either William or Julia need to marry someone else to help them gain Canadian citizenship. 10) Julia is hypnotized/mesmerized into doing someone else's will...and that someone doesn't want her to marry William. That's 10 I can think of off the top of my head. Perhaps I'll cruise on over to TV Tropes to find some more... List continued... 11) Carriage runs over William or Julia on the way to the wedding (re: An Affair to Remember) 12) Julia in prison for suffragette activities. 13) Either Julia or William has to go into hiding. 14) Wedding crasher gives reason they cannot be married. 15) Julia falls asleep in field of poppies. - it's the end of Season 10 of the series which is now just called MURDOCH as no more mysteries could be dreamed up. - we are finally watching, what we hope will be, an uninterrupted wedding ceremony now that William and Julia are both fully recovered from their respective opium addiction and coma (due to opium poisoning from falling asleep in a field of poppies). -Julia's court case involving her suffragette activities has been postponed until a new judge can be found as the last judge hearing her case was jailed for jury tampering in an un-related case. How does that even happen??? -The damage to the church from last week's fire was quickly repaired although the smell of charred pews still hangs heavy in the air and one wall remains missing but it is early summer so that is not a problem today. -Henry and George are overly-excited about a special surprise they have been planning for some time and after the happy couple leave the church, the constables open the box they are holding and within seconds 25-30 live butterflies flutter towards William and Julia. -unfortunately, the incident resulted in William requiring re-hab for his opium addiction. Julia visits him often and they apparently expect to begin their life as a normal married couple in the near future (but we know better ) Extra lol at the notion of the church burning down: do we blame it on the curse engagement ring? (I'm starting to suspect that thing was stolen from gypsies). Butterfly detox is also a great idea, but I'm still miffed that the MM writers went there in the first place. I just don't see William having a serious fear of butterflies. Discomfort maybe (that would bother him if he can't account for it), but not a crippling fear. Methinks the writers are having some difficulty figuring out what to do with Julia's career in psychiatry. |
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Post by carco on Apr 7, 2014 4:50:21 GMT
Yes snacky, the cause of the church fire was never solved but everyone except William knows it was the "curse of the ruby/diamond ring".......
Yeah, the butterfly phobia as presented in the series seems a bit of a stretch but to be fair, most phobias can be seen by others as being completely irrational. But yes, you're right---the idea of it was a bit of a stretch. Its odd if the writer's are having trouble figuring out how to use Julia's psychiatry since it dove tails nicely with the police investigative work that Murdoch does. I think what they're having difficulty with is finding a reason to include her in every case when her workplace does not have a direct connection with the police like the Morgue did. While William did consult with Dr Roberts often, who was considered a bit of a renegade, Wm. didn't need his expertise for every case. I think the writers are showing how the new field of psychiatry slowly began to be used more and more by police for profiling, etc. With her background in the morgue, science and now pyschiatry she could head up the first Office of the Coroner in Toronto (but I think that was already set up by 1901 in TO,could be wrong, would have to look that up again.) Then again it might be better that they not work too closely together assuming they will become engaged and possibly will marry.
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Post by snacky on Apr 7, 2014 5:06:39 GMT
Then again it might be better that they not work too closely together assuming they will become engaged and possibly will marry. Yet working together is part of the foundation of the relationship, and I think they would both feel something is missing without it. Occasionally I've wondered if Julia was being a bit too enthusiastic - as if she's thinking this is what she needs to be in order to maintain a relationship with William. Strangely, I didn't get that vibe when she was working in the morgue: there she seemed naturally curious and willing to go places that William wouldn't even go: and that was a big part of his attraction to her. But in later seasons it was William's puzzle and Julia became a sort of sidekick instead of an independent investigator following her own path. |
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