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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 4:57:37 GMT
Brackenreid is great, because, as frustrated as Murdoch makes him sometimes, he knows exactly how valuable William is and does whatever he needs to clean up his messes and keep him working. And by messes, I mean the stepped on toes.  George is also a great companion, because he's supportive and encouraging without being too clingy or needy...I don't think William could handle that in a friendship. Plus, he's just awesome  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 5:08:28 GMT
Brackenreid is great, because, as frustrated as Murdoch makes him sometimes, he knows exactly how valuable William is and does whatever he needs to clean up his messes and keep him working. And by messes, I mean the stepped on toes. George is also a great companion, because he's supportive and encouraging without being too clingy or needy...I don't think William could handle that in a friendship. Plus, he's just awesome Brackenreid really surprised me in I, Murdoch when he found William unconscious in the field (after he had been chloroformed by the German agent). He was extremely soft-voiced and solicitous, almost fatherly: the first time I saw him like that with William. He might have thought William was dead when he first saw him. Anyway, it seemed for a minute he thought of William as a son that he keeps kicking in the pants to keep him on the right track. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 5:16:05 GMT
Hmm...I don't think I quite remember that part. What a great excuse to watch it again!  I do wish, though that they would show more of Brackenreid's interactions with his kids. Granted, that's not the focus of the show, but a little more would be nice. |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 5:30:31 GMT
Hmm...I don't think I quite remember that part. What a great excuse to watch it again! I do wish, though that they would show more of Brackenreid's interactions with his kids. Granted, that's not the focus of the show, but a little more would be nice. While William is explaining what happens, Brackenreid says "Bloody Scoundrel!", but he says it softly that for the longest time I thought he said "Bloody Scandal!" Either would work - it's just endearing he said it in such a kind way. William is not the type that wants to be babied, but he was certainly letting the Inspector lead him along for a few minutes while he got his bearings. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 5:40:56 GMT
Aw, love Brackenreid. <3 It's actually a good thing he doesn't baby Murdoch, since his own relationship with Harry probably left him a distaste for the "fatherly" role in his own life.
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 5:46:37 GMT
Aw, love Brackenreid. <3 It's actually a good thing he doesn't baby Murdoch, since his own relationship with Harry probably left him a distaste for the "fatherly" role in his own life. Harry calls him "Willy" - how humiliating. Even at this late stage he can't see the respectable middle class gentleman his son is trying to become. I agree that Brackenreid understands William wouldn't want to be babied. Perhaps "patronized" is a better word. William is trying to be authoritative and respected, standing on his own. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 5:56:33 GMT
Does Harry ever come back? I feel like they can still mine a lot of emotion out of that relationship.
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 6:02:17 GMT
Does Harry ever come back? I feel like they can still mine a lot of emotion out of that relationship. I think he has to for the "early years of William Murdoch" episode. In order to reconcile, I think William has to discover where he gets some of his interests and inclinations from (within his family, not from the Jesuits). |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 6:04:25 GMT
It would definitely be interesting to explore whether he is more like his mother or his father. Perhaps Harry was much like William before some tragedy that drove him to the bottle.
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 6:07:44 GMT
It would definitely be interesting to explore whether he is more like his mother or his father. Perhaps Harry was much like William before some tragedy that drove him to the bottle. He was a fisherman, but perhaps some sort of sea adventurer (pirate?) before that. Perhaps he has "street smarts", though. I'm very curious as to what his mother taught William, according to the TV show mythology. The book doesn't count, since William's character is different in the book. He must have a mad scientist uncle or something. |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 6:22:01 GMT
It would definitely be interesting to explore whether he is more like his mother or his father. Perhaps Harry was much like William before some tragedy that drove him to the bottle. His father characterized the mother as argumentative enough to come at him and dash her own head on the fireplace (or something like that) in Let Loose the Dogs. He seemed to be characterizing himself as passive (William-like) and her as passionate. Maybe you're right. But the interest in book-learning must have come from Mom. Or the Mad Scientist uncle. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 6:28:00 GMT
Mad Scientist uncle!  But I agree that William does share some of the passive tendencies of his father. I wonder if that's part of William's aversion to alcohol...he may be afraid that he is like his father in more ways than one. |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 6:40:13 GMT
Mad Scientist uncle! But I agree that William does share some of the passive tendencies of his father. I wonder if that's part of William's aversion to alcohol...he may be afraid that he is like his father in more ways than one. hmm, I hadn't put that together, but now that you say it - I'm sure it is. I always thought of it as part of William's desire to preserve his rational faculties, and perhaps a subconscious awareness that he's the low-dopamine sort and alcohol would exacerbate matters. He may also be more prone to obsessive-compulsiveness and addictions than most, which would lead to a danger of alcoholism: it might run in his family. He seems so stiff, though: he probably fantasizes about opium dens and a good massage. *runs to Wikipedia* Ooh, massage was just coming into general use: AD 1878: Dutch massage practitioner Johan Georg Mezger takes a sub-set of techniques from Dr. Ling's system, and coins the phrase "Swedish massage system". Notably, Ling's techniques, having been borrowed by Mezger, are still known by their French names (effleurage (long, gliding strokes), petrissage (lifting and kneading the muscles), friction (firm, deep, circular rubbing movements), tapotement (brisk tapping or percussive movements), and vibration (rapidly shaking or vibrating specific muscles)). Each of these techniques are fundamental elements of Tui na, and had been practiced in China for several thousand years prior.
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 19:59:00 GMT
Haha, I would have a hard time picturing William getting a massage, although he definitely needs one! He just needs to get a good one, because if your muscles are that stiff and they aren't worked right, you'll end up hurting even more than when you started.  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 23:01:20 GMT
Haha, I would have a hard time picturing William getting a massage, although he definitely needs one! He just needs to get a good one, because if your muscles are that stiff and they aren't worked right, you'll end up hurting even more than when you started. I can imagine a hilarious scene with one of those Japanese masseuses walking on him, during a "cultural exchange" (circa the Anglo-Japanese treaty). |
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