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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 6:19:14 GMT
Just watched Dial M for Murdoch again, and I was blown away by the George/Tess chemistry. Why was that ever dropped? As many have commented George/Emily is just a carbon copy of William/Julia that suffers a lot in comparison because it's such a poor match. George needs that slightly goofy woman of adventure that can be found in Tess. Plus he looked genuinely interested in Tess, whereas he was always a bit intimidated by Emily.
Let some Society Chap with a jones for psychic research have Emily.
Tess was supposed to start her own detective agency. Now is the time for her to make a comeback. Sad breakups don't always need to be patched up.
Or...Tess could be the "Nellie Bly" intrepid reporter by day, and private investigator by night...just until there's enough business to pay the bills.
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 3, 2014 17:13:03 GMT
I love it! I so wanted Tess to come back after "Dial M." She and George really clicked...maybe they even could have gone into the detecting business together! Although poor William would be lost without his faithful companion. And really it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for her to be the reporter either...there's a lot in common with investigative reporting and private detective work. The common bond of writing would draw her and George even closer together  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 17:43:36 GMT
I love it! I so wanted Tess to come back after "Dial M." She and George really clicked...maybe they even could have gone into the detecting business together! Although poor William would be lost without his faithful companion. And really it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for her to be the reporter either...there's a lot in common with investigative reporting and private detective work. The common bond of writing would draw her and George even closer together I think it would be more fun if Tess were occasionally crossing, competing with, and "showing up" Station House 4. But if William starts to say anything belittling like "inserting herself" into cases, she should kick him where it hurts!  I think George could be more useful to Tess staying right where he is. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 3, 2014 18:07:59 GMT
That's true...and of course, what would William do without his faithful companion?  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 18:36:19 GMT
That's true...and of course, what would William do without his faithful companion? Who would do the shoveling? And the running? And the fingermark-hunting? And the photo-developing? And the staking-out? And the pedaling? |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 3, 2014 18:45:09 GMT
And the scuba diving? And the records digging? And who would provide the comic relief?!  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 19:01:38 GMT
And the scuba diving? And the records digging? And who would provide the comic relief?! George could have drowned in the scuba diving.  But lets not forget providing the office greenery! When William came back from the Klondike his office looked like a greenhouse! George really has those domestic skills down: sewing, horticulture...he must really know how to cook! |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 3, 2014 19:10:31 GMT
I was so shocked at the scuba diving...there's no way you could have gotten me into that suit, 19th century or not! And what's worse, he could have caught his death of cold since he wasn't able to dry off right away. I loved the plants in the office! Maybe that belongs under the "hipster" thread, since it could be considered the avant-garde of modern business attempts to cultivate comfortable work spaces. He also had pictures of his aunts decorating the filing cabinets |
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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 20:08:37 GMT
I was so shocked at the scuba diving...there's no way you could have gotten me into that suit, 19th century or not! And what's worse, he could have caught his death of cold since he wasn't able to dry off right away. I loved the plants in the office! Maybe that belongs under the "hipster" thread, since it could be considered the avant-garde of modern business attempts to cultivate comfortable work spaces. He also had pictures of his aunts decorating the filing cabinets I'm not sure if that's hipster, since hipster is supposed to be counter to "mainstream" as well as counter to "cool". Actually, I'm not sure what the heck hipster is. It seems to be guys in scraggly beards and glasses who listen to unknown bands and use scratch pads instead of PDAs. I think it's looking uncool on purpose, aka "ironically" (note my hipster ironic quotes). I guess we could say George is more savvy than he acts, but I think hipsters have a slightly cruel edginess -that's not George. I think he's more hip than hipster! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%28contemporary_subculture%29 |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 3, 2014 20:25:24 GMT
True, there. I guess I was picturing "hipster" as someone ahead of cultural trends. But as you mentioned, it's kind of a loosely defined term. Perhaps defining it would actually make it too mainstream to actually be associated with the culture anymore.
And I believe that George is definitely more savvy than he sometimes may seem. We kind of take for granted William's vast knowledge on a staggering array of subjects, but George does his best to expand his thinking through extensive reading and observation of human nature.
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Post by snacky on Jun 3, 2014 21:08:04 GMT
True, there. I guess I was picturing "hipster" as someone ahead of cultural trends. But as you mentioned, it's kind of a loosely defined term. Perhaps defining it would actually make it too mainstream to actually be associated with the culture anymore. And I believe that George is definitely more savvy than he sometimes may seem. We kind of take for granted William's vast knowledge on a staggering array of subjects, but George does his best to expand his thinking through extensive reading and observation of human nature. I think George has goofy looks so he plays to peoples expectations of his looks, but he's a smart guy underneath and he knows it. Occasionally he will say things on the side like "how would anyone get along without me". There definitely needs to be more George appreciation. I also think it's interesting that he's developing as a writer even though he doesn't come across as "educated": you have to be well-read to write. Even if George is not formally educated, it seems like he got some education from his upbringing and certainly a lot of informal education from working with William. If William can be an auto-didact and rise above his class origins, why can't George? |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 3:24:30 GMT
I think George's development as a writer lies in his continuous quest to better himself. Even though he's not formally educated, he's always try to learn about the world around him...even when Murdoch makes it sound complicated I also think it's pretty well implied that he reads a lot. He just tends to lean to the pop-culture novels, like Dracula, than the medical journals beloved by William. |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 3:49:34 GMT
I think George's development as a writer lies in his continuous quest to better himself. Even though he's not formally educated, he's always try to learn about the world around him...even when Murdoch makes it sound complicated I also think it's pretty well implied that he reads a lot. He just tends to lean to the pop-culture novels, like Dracula, than the medical journals beloved by William. William underestimates what can be learned from pop-culture novels: everything from world geography, customs and current events to matters of the heart and the human condition. Just look at this forum. >.> Good point. |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Jun 4, 2014 4:00:07 GMT
Definitely. I love what George says in "War on Terror." "Detective Murdoch tends to focus on material evidence. I like to examine the human heart. That's why we make such a good team." I'm paraphrasing a bit, but I loved that part because I had been having the exact same thought prior to seeing that episode |
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Post by snacky on Jun 4, 2014 4:25:07 GMT
Definitely. I love what George says in "War on Terror." "Detective Murdoch tends to focus on material evidence. I like to examine the human heart. That's why we make such a good team." I'm paraphrasing a bit, but I loved that part because I had been having the exact same thought prior to seeing that episode Wow what a wonderful and self-confident way for George to see himself, when he is surrounded by putdowns! You go, George! I'm still in love with the way Brackenreid described what William does best: step on toes and upset people. Poor William, that's so true. But that's the fate of an introvert with self-righteous tendencies. It's a good thing Julia is there to care for him and George is there to say "yes sir" and shovel the dirt. |
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