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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 18:46:06 GMT
I hope it's not the "Glory Days" ep? I want salacious secrets to come out, but nothing that will gut or destroy our boy. However, easily resolved angst is acceptable. Glory Days is a western I believe. I think Bat Masterson is in it. Yannick said it was his favourite so far. Probably cuz of all those stunts he didn't do.
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 18:48:25 GMT
This has reminded me of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Apparently Gellar and Boreanaz were too embarrassed to make the sex noises so Joss Whedon and some other lady had to do the sounds instead.  OMG that's hilarious. This is making me think William is going to have some trouble getting the sauce on even within marriage, though. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 18:49:32 GMT
Lol yeah it's like they realized after the fact that even in his fantasy William would hold himself back so he never kissed her 'nastily' again. You know, I remember that being based on Shipwrecked now. I guess that means no logging camp stud muffins.Yeah, I think it's easily the most passionate kiss between those two-lots of sucking and hands in hair. Julia would no doubt love to have that William, I'd think. I'm going with your interpretation of Victor/Victorian. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 18:52:00 GMT
Usually their kisses are pretty chaste-I'd also like to see them get a bit more involved. Nothing extreme though... Do you remember the imagined kiss in Still Waters? He sucks on her lip and tugs at it before letting it go. I think that may be the most scandalous kiss I've ever seen from those two. You know, other than TGM, where he has her blouse unbuttoned and has no reservations about going further. I just don't want either of them looking like it's starting to become a chore. I felt William was getting to the verge of that at the end of Ragtime. On the S1 DVD there's a commentary for Power featuring YB, JH, Cal Coons and someone who's name escapes me. YB commented on the kissing saying something to the effect that open mouthed kissing hadn't come to Victorian Toronto. I've always taken that to be why the kissing is so chaste. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 18:52:06 GMT
I hope it's not the "Glory Days" ep? I want salacious secrets to come out, but nothing that will gut or destroy our boy. However, easily resolved angst is acceptable. Glory days is about Bat Masterson but perhaps there could be flashbacks to William's past. I got the impression Murdoch's past may be inspired by Maureen Jenning's novella, Shipwreck. I doubt that's about the logging camp. Must read it to finish off the series, I think it's retired Murdoch relating his past. Well since there is universal demand for logging camp stud muffins, if we don't get it this season, I think we can expect it in the future, lol.  |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 18:52:48 GMT
Glory Days is a western I believe. I think Bat Masterson is in it. Yannick said it was his favourite so far. Probably cuz of all those stunts he didn't do.
I thought it was his favorite because he directed it...? I believe that's why. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 18:55:56 GMT
I just don't want either of them looking like it's starting to become a chore. I felt William was getting to the verge of that at the end of Ragtime. On the S1 DVD there's a commentary for Power featuring YB, JH, Cal Coons and someone who's name escapes me. YB commented on the kissing saying something to the effect that open mouthed kissing hadn't come to Victorian Toronto. I've always taken that to be why the kissing is so chaste. I wonder if there's actually a history of that. There's an old anime called Rurouni Kenshin with an episode that suggested kissing was one of the new "European things" in late 19th century Japan. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 18:57:33 GMT
On the S1 DVD there's a commentary for Power featuring YB, JH, Cal Coons and someone who's name escapes me. YB commented on the kissing saying something to the effect that open mouthed kissing hadn't come to Victorian Toronto. I've always taken that to be why the kissing is so chaste. I wonder if there's actually a history of that. There's an old anime called Rurouni Kenshin with an episode that suggested kissing was one of the new "European things" in late 19th century Japan. I've searched, can't find anything online. I was kinda hoping they'd go to Paris for their honeymoon and learn 'French kissing." |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 19:07:22 GMT
I think that W & J's wedding will provide new plot opportunities. There is of course the physical part of their relationship and I am certain they will explore that, I cling to the hope that underneath that Homburg there is a man who is looking forward to and will enjoy sex. Besides that, there are plenty of opportunities for both comic and serious plots with two people who have lived alone for most of their lives now sharing a house. Not every episode has to focus on their marriage. That being said, now that they are married it would be natural to see them with friends more often: George coming to dinner, the Brackenrieid's including the boys, entertaining illustrious visitors to Toronto, i.e., Tesla, Edison, etc. Dealing with William's past is, as you all say, an area to be exploited as is William's coming to terms with Julia's wealth. The very nature of their professions will keep their marriage from becoming too boring. Cases requiring long hours away from home which will prevent their marriage from falling into a routine. Then again there are the children to consider. By the way, did anyone notice the Executive Producer credit for YB in opening sequence of the S* teaser? That is a very interesting note about the Executive Producer credit! I've been wondering what they've had to do in order to invest the actors in the series - this may be one element of their creative contract writing. I hope the other actors have been able to expand their contracts in similar ways since they can't be compensated straight-up like American actors are. Also, thank you for all the ideas about what could take place via "marriage" episodes. I'm sure the issue of Julia's infertility will come up eventually. Also, let me add condolences for your loss as well.  |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 19:20:52 GMT
I've searched, can't find anything online. I was kinda hoping they'd go to Paris for their honeymoon and learn 'French kissing." I always wondered if that's what Julia actually had in mind when William told her (though I think she understood perfectly well) about Guillaume saying he ought to be a little more French.  Not sure about the actual PRACTICE, but according to this article the English idea of "French Kissing" is post World War I: bigstory.ap.org/article/french-kiss-finally-enters-french-dictionaryAnd the French didn't even have their own French word for it until 2013! They thought it was a Florentine kiss!  |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 19:24:50 GMT
I've searched, can't find anything online. I was kinda hoping they'd go to Paris for their honeymoon and learn 'French kissing." I always wondered if that's what Julia actually had in mind when William told her (though I think she understood perfectly well) about Guillaume saying he ought to be a little more French. Not sure about the actual PRACTICE, but according to this article the English idea of "French Kissing" is post World War I: bigstory.ap.org/article/french-kiss-finally-enters-french-dictionaryAnd the French didn't even have their own French word for it until 2013! They thought it was a Florentine kiss! That's all I could find. Nothing about kissing in North America. I would imagine it wouldn't make it's way here until it had spread over Europe. Wonder what the French immigrants to Canada did though.... |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 19:31:21 GMT
I've always wondered how William will deal with Julia's wealth, it's never been addressed in the show. I'm not sure it will bother him much but her standing in the community because of it may be something for him to deal with. He's not exactly a social butterfly dragonfly. I've been thinking about this because Julia went from hating her "country club" upbringing to being "dowdy" (someone who didn't care about wealth) to being quite a fashion plate to being trapped in a marriage in which she was stifled by the hypocrisies of the upper class. She has quite conflicting experiences and feelings where wealth is concerned. Then again, I think if she sees William in the same threadbare robe he was convalescing in half a dozen years ago, I think she will demand that he upgrade a bit and show her that she's worth some new night clothes! |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 19:45:00 GMT
I always wondered if that's what Julia actually had in mind when William told her (though I think she understood perfectly well) about Guillaume saying he ought to be a little more French. Not sure about the actual PRACTICE, but according to this article the English idea of "French Kissing" is post World War I: bigstory.ap.org/article/french-kiss-finally-enters-french-dictionaryAnd the French didn't even have their own French word for it until 2013! They thought it was a Florentine kiss! That's all I could find. Nothing about kissing in North America. I would imagine it wouldn't make it's way here until it had spread over Europe. Wonder what the French immigrants to Canada did though.... I don't think we should be dividing it by country. Prostitutes would be bringing risque practices all over. I think it's just a question of conventions. Romance starts from the imagination: books, plays, watching what other couples are doing. Women weren't seeing a lot of French kissing, so I doubt their romantic imagination would be captured by it. Therefore, it would not be on the list of moves a gentleman would pull out to woo a lady. However, once they were married, if a gentleman had been introduced to said practice in his roving days, then he might persuade his wife to give it a shot. It's different today because TV and movies have added a great deal to the "visual vocabulary" of love making. So now a guy would be expected to French kiss to show passion. (I think this has been kind of a trap for them, though. It's hard to master French kissing. None of the guys I've ever dated have been good at it.) |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 19:45:05 GMT
I've always wondered how William will deal with Julia's wealth, it's never been addressed in the show. I'm not sure it will bother him much but her standing in the community because of it may be something for him to deal with. He's not exactly a social butterfly dragonfly. I've been thinking about this because Julia went from hating her "country club" upbringing to being "dowdy" (someone who didn't care about wealth) to being quite a fashion plate to being trapped in a marriage in which she was stifled by the hypocrisies of the upper class. She has quite conflicting experiences and feelings where wealth is concerned. Then again, I think if she sees William in the same threadbare robe he was convalescing in half a dozen years ago, I think she will demand that he upgrade a bit and show her that she's worth some new night clothes! She probably descended into dowdiness because of her job. No one to dress up for in the morgue ... except William and I doubt he cared what she wore. Julia became more of a fashion plate when married to Darcy, I noticed a marked difference in her wardrobe during that time. Perhaps because she had to live up to Darcy's position at the hospital. I can't see her caring otherwise but with her own practice and then when she started at the asylum I guess she'd have to dress somewhat professionally. As far as William's wardrobe, he's way too well dressed for his profession and pay scale, he shows Julia up. Wonder if he'll have even better suits after marriage. Not sure about threadbare robe, he probably hasn't worn it since all his visitors in Convalescence, he had to look decent when the ladies came to call. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 19:50:35 GMT
As far as William's wardrobe, he's way too well dressed for his profession and pay scale, he shows Julia up. Wonder if he'll have even better suits after marriage. Not sure about threadbare robe, he probably hasn't worn it since all his visitors in Convalescence, he had to look decent when the ladies came to call. This is reminding me of Victor/Victorian when George opened the closet and found 3 racks of shoes. Hahahaha, now could the big secret be that William is really Williamette...?  |
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