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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 6:47:50 GMT
I'd forgotten about that. Maybe it is Julia that he's embarrassed to show his legs to. Julia also thought it was unusual to see William in something like knickerbockers for the baseball game in Walk on the Wild Side. I just realized that the show-spanning arc of MM could be classified as a striptease hahahaha. By Season 5, William was wearing knickers. By season 7, both William and Julia were showing ankles... Considering the difficulty Julia has getting his tie off I'm sure she thinks his suit must be glued on so yes it would be unusual to see him in anything else. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 7:20:35 GMT
Considering the difficulty Julia has getting his tie off I'm sure she thinks his suit must be glued on so yes it would be unusual to see him in anything else. LOL - now I DEMAND to see that game of strip poker! Gosh darn it, now I'm going to be considering how this should come about all night. And here I thought the 40 Year Old Virgin theory was rather far fetched even for the 19th century, and I was going into elaborate detail on how things would work out that way. And as it turns out, I should be wondering about just getting William to take his tie off. Harrumph.  If Eclair is reading this: the ball is in your court on this one, buddy! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 11, 2014 8:19:18 GMT
Julia also thought it was unusual to see William in something like knickerbockers for the baseball game in Walk on the Wild Side. I just realized that the show-spanning arc of MM could be classified as a striptease hahahaha. By Season 5, William was wearing knickers. By season 7, both William and Julia were showing ankles... Considering the difficulty Julia has getting his tie off I'm sure she thinks his suit must be glued on so yes it would be unusual to see him in anything else. This is true. I'm telling you, that tie is symbolic of something!  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 11, 2014 8:47:59 GMT
Considering the difficulty Julia has getting his tie off I'm sure she thinks his suit must be glued on so yes it would be unusual to see him in anything else. LOL - now I DEMAND to see that game of strip poker! Gosh darn it, now I'm going to be considering how this should come about all night. And here I thought the 40 Year Old Virgin theory was rather far fetched even for the 19th century, and I was going into elaborate detail on how things would work out that way. And as it turns out, I should be wondering about just getting William to take his tie off. Harrumph. If Eclair is reading this: the ball is in your court on this one, buddy! CC wrote a fic with strip dominos! Close enough? Or you could finally get off your a$$ and write one yourself. That's the frustrating thing about this question, just when you think you've figured it out, a development throws you for a loop. It's either utter fiendishness on the part of the show, or horrible continuity-I can't decide which. But I suppose that's what makes it fun. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 16:26:41 GMT
LOL - now I DEMAND to see that game of strip poker! Gosh darn it, now I'm going to be considering how this should come about all night. And here I thought the 40 Year Old Virgin theory was rather far fetched even for the 19th century, and I was going into elaborate detail on how things would work out that way. And as it turns out, I should be wondering about just getting William to take his tie off. Harrumph. If Eclair is reading this: the ball is in your court on this one, buddy! CC wrote a fic with strip dominos! Close enough? Or you could finally get off your a$$ and write one yourself. That's the frustrating thing about this question, just when you think you've figured it out, a development throws you for a loop. It's either utter fiendishness on the part of the show, or horrible continuity-I can't decide which. But I suppose that's what makes it fun. I think the writers love keeping us in knots about this. Funnily enough, whilst I can see William and Julia not having 'relations' I wouldn't be surprised if William and Anna did. Their relationship is totally different, he's easier with Anna and seems to have more fun, she's from a class more in keeping with William's too. I'm thinking it's because Anna first met the William that's underneath that facade. He certainly didn't think twice about making a play for a woman he'd only just met so it's there somewhere. If only Julia could find it, she must be getting very frustrated by now! I'm no writer, maybe someone else could come up with a fic of how Julia persuades William to consider her needs ... before marriage. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 17:10:35 GMT
Considering the difficulty Julia has getting his tie off I'm sure she thinks his suit must be glued on so yes it would be unusual to see him in anything else. This is true. I'm telling you, that tie is symbolic of something! Someone used to talk about how Julia seems to keep fantasizing about running her hands through William's hair. (Or is that William fantasizing about Julia doing that...hmm...). With all that pomade? If that is her fantasy, what she wants to do is mess up his hair, lol. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 11, 2014 17:30:10 GMT
CC wrote a fic with strip dominos! Close enough? Or you could finally get off your a$$ and write one yourself. That's the frustrating thing about this question, just when you think you've figured it out, a development throws you for a loop. It's either utter fiendishness on the part of the show, or horrible continuity-I can't decide which. But I suppose that's what makes it fun. I think the writers love keeping us in knots about this. Funnily enough, whilst I can see William and Julia not having 'relations' I wouldn't be surprised if William and Anna did. Their relationship is totally different, he's easier with Anna and seems to have more fun, she's from a class more in keeping with William's too. I'm thinking it's because Anna first met the William that's underneath that facade. He certainly didn't think twice about making a play for a woman he'd only just met so it's there somewhere. If only Julia could find it, she must be getting very frustrated by now! I'm no writer, maybe someone else could come up with a fic of how Julia persuades William to consider her needs ... before marriage. I totally agree. I was watching SotWS again earlier ( per our discussion) and William is more himself around Anna-as though he's not as nervous around her. There's definitely a chemistry between them, and I'm starting to believe that William has a lot of fun with her, but he knows she's not the one for him. William and Julia are two nerds in love, and they can totally geek out around one another and get one another. Anna, I think would tolerate his eccentricities, but I don't think she'd ever get them or even share in them. Julia wants to explore and be a part of the world with William, Anna will just passively enjoy the ride. William seems to hold himself back around Julia, almost as if he's afraid the true William will scare her off-something he doesn't want to do, so he behaves himself. Julia, on the other hand, it's dying to get at that William-try as he might to hide it, she can smell it, and she wants it -even to the point where she's baiting him big time during season 7. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 17:31:30 GMT
Here's a link between the idea of William keeping more clothes on around Julia and the idea Yannick may have originally been playing the role in an Aspergers-leaning direction. There is a famous experimental scientist who is thought to have had Aspergers, Henry Cavendish: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Charles_CavendishHe did great scientific work, interacted with the scientific community, and gave papers at all-male society meetings. However, he was so anxious around women that he only communicated with the female servants by passing notes, and had a special staircase built for them so he wouldn't see them passing by. The above thoughts actually puts a different spin on The Green Muse (including all our questions on why it went no further): what if it didn't actually go that far? William was drunk, and absinthe is supposed to have hallucinogenic properties. What if William imagined part of it, mentally converting a little kissing into a general loss of control on his part? That would also make a bit more sense of Julia's later remark about him not being the only one to live in his head. That remark always seemed a little off-kilter to me. But perhaps she was re-assuring him that not much actually happened that night, but that she knew he was imagining more because she did, too. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 11, 2014 17:37:15 GMT
This is true. I'm telling you, that tie is symbolic of something! Someone used to talk about how Julia seems to keep fantasizing about running her hands through William's hair. (Or is that William fantasizing about Julia doing that...hmm...). With all that pomade? If that is her fantasy, what she wants to do is mess up his hair, lol. It's become a fanfic cliche, but in this case it's quite apt-William really is the ultimate "buttoned up detective" , the immaculate suit, pomaded hair so it's never out of place, crisp white shirts, the vest, the cuff links, the hat, is so polished, that William will often "outgentleman" (if that's a word) the native gentlemen. Julia on the other hand, having grown up with those men, is probably bored with it, and loves that William's a bit rough under all that spit and polish. She likes how William can be the well composed escort to various polite functions, and become the rough logger of her fantasies behind closed doors-or so goes her fantasy-if she can ever crack that exterior. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 17:47:40 GMT
Someone used to talk about how Julia seems to keep fantasizing about running her hands through William's hair. (Or is that William fantasizing about Julia doing that...hmm...). With all that pomade? If that is her fantasy, what she wants to do is mess up his hair, lol. It's become a fanfic cliche, but in this case it's quite apt-William really is the ultimate "buttoned up detective" , the immaculate suit, pomaded hair so it's never out of place, crisp white shirts, the vest, the cuff links, the hat, is so polished, that William will often "outgentleman" (if that's a word) the native gentlemen. Julia on the other hand, having grown up with those men, is probably bored with it, and loves that William's a bit rough under all that spit and polish. She likes how William can be the well composed escort to various polite functions, and become the rough logger of her fantasies behind closed doors-or so goes her fantasy-if she can ever crack that exterior. She better watch out or she will end up with a cheesy mustache! haha, remember Sam's line about "Don't look at the bookshelves!"
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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 17:50:24 GMT
I think the writers love keeping us in knots about this. Funnily enough, whilst I can see William and Julia not having 'relations' I wouldn't be surprised if William and Anna did. Their relationship is totally different, he's easier with Anna and seems to have more fun, she's from a class more in keeping with William's too. I'm thinking it's because Anna first met the William that's underneath that facade. He certainly didn't think twice about making a play for a woman he'd only just met so it's there somewhere. If only Julia could find it, she must be getting very frustrated by now! I'm no writer, maybe someone else could come up with a fic of how Julia persuades William to consider her needs ... before marriage. I totally agree. I was watching SotWS again earlier ( per our discussion) and William is more himself around Anna-as though he's not as nervous around her. There's definitely a chemistry between them, and I'm starting to believe that William has a lot of fun with her, but he knows she's not the one for him. William and Julia are two nerds in love, and they can totally geek out around one another and get one another. Anna, I think would tolerate his eccentricities, but I don't think she'd ever get them or even share in them. Julia wants to explore and be a part of the world with William, Anna will just passively enjoy the ride. William seems to hold himself back around Julia, almost as if he's afraid the true William will scare her off-something he doesn't want to do, so he behaves himself. Julia, on the other hand, it's dying to get at that William-try as he might to hide it, she can smell it, and she wants it -even to the point where she's baiting him big time during season 7. I agree, much as Anna would like the relationship to go somewhere for William she will always be second best. He has more of an intellectual romance with Julia and that's where William is comfortable, unfortunately for Julia, who I think would prefer him to be more like he is with Anna. I doubt Julia would be scared off if he became the real William, I'm thinking she'd find it quite a turn on, she's been trying to bring it out for years. Though she did have a taste of it with the absinthe ... hmm ... perhaps he was too much for her and that's why she poured cold water on his desires and now she's regretting it as he took it to heart. Dr. Tash did say she was a pistol! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 11, 2014 17:55:15 GMT
CC wrote a fic with strip dominos! Close enough? Or you could finally get off your a$$ and write one yourself. That's the frustrating thing about this question, just when you think you've figured it out, a development throws you for a loop. It's either utter fiendishness on the part of the show, or horrible continuity-I can't decide which. But I suppose that's what makes it fun. I think the writers love keeping us in knots about this. Funnily enough, whilst I can see William and Julia not having 'relations' I wouldn't be surprised if William and Anna did. Their relationship is totally different, he's easier with Anna and seems to have more fun, she's from a class more in keeping with William's too. I'm thinking it's because Anna first met the William that's underneath that facade. He certainly didn't think twice about making a play for a woman he'd only just met so it's there somewhere. If only Julia could find it, she must be getting very frustrated by now! I'm no writer, maybe someone else could come up with a fic of how Julia persuades William to consider her needs ... before marriage. Well, I did write that one where she tormented herself and got him to finally break, but this convo has me thinking about exploring a conversation where angry Julia finds out he's been with Anna, but not with her. Or, perhaps where Julia just gets so frustrated that she decides to prey upon William.  |
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Post by snacky on Sept 11, 2014 17:56:21 GMT
William seems to hold himself back around Julia, almost as if he's afraid the true William will scare her off-something he doesn't want to do, so he behaves himself. Julia, on the other hand, it's dying to get at that William-try as he might to hide it, she can smell it, and she wants it -even to the point where she's baiting him big time during season 7. Yes, this is odd considering William chose Julia over Enid because Julia was the more "passionate" one. And Julia wants those passions from William. And William was envious of Darcy being able to arouse passions in Julia. Is this a Green Muse trigger? I mentioned above that I had the passing thought that it may not have actually gone that far, but perhaps William is afraid of losing that kind of control again? Where Julia has to ask him to stop? In speaking of SotWS, I wonder if Julia has a tattoo? |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 17:56:32 GMT
Someone used to talk about how Julia seems to keep fantasizing about running her hands through William's hair. (Or is that William fantasizing about Julia doing that...hmm...). With all that pomade? If that is her fantasy, what she wants to do is mess up his hair, lol. It's become a fanfic cliche, but in this case it's quite apt-William really is the ultimate "buttoned up detective" , the immaculate suit, pomaded hair so it's never out of place, crisp white shirts, the vest, the cuff links, the hat, is so polished, that William will often "outgentleman" (if that's a word) the native gentlemen. Julia on the other hand, having grown up with those men, is probably bored with it, and loves that William's a bit rough under all that spit and polish. She likes how William can be the well composed escort to various polite functions, and become the rough logger of her fantasies behind closed doors-or so goes her fantasy-if she can ever crack that exterior. As soon as the hat, jacket, vest and tie come off the real William escapes so he needs to keep everything buttoned up tight. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 11, 2014 17:59:33 GMT
I think the writers love keeping us in knots about this. Funnily enough, whilst I can see William and Julia not having 'relations' I wouldn't be surprised if William and Anna did. Their relationship is totally different, he's easier with Anna and seems to have more fun, she's from a class more in keeping with William's too. I'm thinking it's because Anna first met the William that's underneath that facade. He certainly didn't think twice about making a play for a woman he'd only just met so it's there somewhere. If only Julia could find it, she must be getting very frustrated by now! I'm no writer, maybe someone else could come up with a fic of how Julia persuades William to consider her needs ... before marriage. Well, I did write that one where she tormented herself and got him to finally break, but this convo has me thinking about exploring a conversation where angry Julia finds out he's been with Anna, but not with her. Or, perhaps where Julia just gets so frustrated that she decides to prey upon William. I don't think preying on William will work, I think it would scare him off. He needs to be persuaded that it's his idea, like most men! |
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