|
|
Post by fan2tvshows on Sept 21, 2014 2:12:10 GMT
The wedding day is approaching! Julia didn't bear the name of Darcy GARLAND but she didn't really explain the reason(s) why. If she did, I don't remember. I suppose that it was her choice/decision because: - she didn't want people to make a confusion between Dr (Julia) GARLAND and Dr (Darcy) GARLAND. - she is a doctor; a great accomplishment of her professional life and also as a woman. - she is a strong and independent woman. - she knew that she made a mistake and bearing the GARLAND's name reminded her her mistake. - she didn't really love Darcy -or at least- she didn't love him as much as she loved William. - she was still in love with William. But I also think that the character Dr Julia OGDEN must remain Dr OGDEN to give William a last hope that one day, she will be his wife. Now Julia and William are engaged however I don't think she will bear the name of MURDOCH and I don't want to. Dr Julia MURDOCH hurts my ears.  But I'm not against hearing William calls Julia -in private  - Mrs MURDOCH or when he introduces her -with pride  - to the people met outside their work environment. |
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Sept 21, 2014 3:28:38 GMT
The wedding day is approaching! Julia didn't bear the name of Darcy GARLAND but she didn't really explain the reason(s) why. If she did, I don't remember. I suppose that it was her choice/decision because: - she didn't want people to make a confusion between Dr (Julia) GARLAND and Dr (Darcy) GARLAND. - she is a doctor; a great accomplishment of her professional life and also as a woman. - she is a strong and independent woman. - she knew that she made a mistake and bearing the GARLAND's name reminded her her mistake. - she didn't really love Darcy -or at least- she didn't love him as much as she loved William. - she was still in love with William. But I also think that the character Dr Julia OGDEN must remain Dr OGDEN to give William a last hope that one day, she will be his wife. Now Julia and William are engaged however I don't think she will bear the name of MURDOCH and I don't want to. Dr Julia MURDOCH hurts my ears. But I'm not against hearing William calls Julia -in private - Mrs MURDOCH or when he introduces her -with pride - to the people met outside their work environment. I agree on both points. Julia will retain the name Dr. Ogden, but William will adore calling her Mrs. Murdoch in private. She might call him Mr. Ogden in retaliation, though! By the way, someone dropped a hint that Leslie Garland would be back. This is the first time I've heard of that possible evil!  |
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Sept 21, 2014 4:48:30 GMT
By the way, someone dropped a hint that Leslie Garland would be back. This is the first time I've heard of that possible evil! I think that was me. I thought Christina Jennings said something about him on the preview video but I was wrong. It must have been someone at the crew panel at the MME. I KNOW I heard it somewhere, it was probably Cal Coons or Maureen Jennings that said it. Not sure I'm looking forward to him being back, never did like him. |
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Sept 21, 2014 5:08:32 GMT
By the way, someone dropped a hint that Leslie Garland would be back. This is the first time I've heard of that possible evil! I think that was me. I thought Christina Jennings said something about him on the preview video but I was wrong. It must have been someone at the crew panel at the MME. I KNOW I heard it somewhere, it was probably Cal Coons or Maureen Jennings that said it. Not sure I'm looking forward to him being back, never did like him. That would be creepily Gillies-like if he kept coming back! I think we might see him again as part of a "nightmare" sequence of things that can go wrong with the wedding, if that writer's whiteboard thing was for real. |
|
|
|
Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 21, 2014 15:00:06 GMT
I think she'll keep Dr. Ogden professionally, and Mrs. Murdoch privately. In more modern times, I think it's possible that she would have hyphenated. Maybe.
|
|
|
|
Post by fan2tvshows on Sept 21, 2014 16:06:11 GMT
I agree on both points. Julia will retain the name Dr. Ogden, but William will adore calling her Mrs. Murdoch in private. She might call him Mr. Ogden in retaliation, though! It could be funny but I've always had the feeling that it was Julia who wore the pants in their relationship/couple and I'm also afraid that one day, she will slap William in his face just to check if he feels something. I like that Julia is a strong and modern woman who fights for her opinions -and that's why she must retain the name Dr OGDEN- but sometimes it makes me think that William is intimidated by her and therefore he remains too passive. I thought that hearing William call Julia Mrs MURDOCH could be a demonstration of his affection that she could enjoy and also a proof that she was able to let her walls come down. Men like think that women need them, LOL  . And if she called him Mr ODGEN, it could be funny but it also could make William feel belittled and demeaned  . |
|
|
|
Post by fan2tvshows on Sept 21, 2014 16:10:40 GMT
I think she'll keep Dr. Ogden professionally, and Mrs. Murdoch privately. In more modern times, I think it's possible that she would have hyphenated. Maybe. So she will be Dr Julia ODGEN-MURDOCH or Dr Julia MURDOCH-OGDEN? |
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Sept 21, 2014 17:19:56 GMT
I think she'll keep Dr. Ogden professionally, and Mrs. Murdoch privately. In more modern times, I think it's possible that she would have hyphenated. Maybe. Both of their names sound so kludgy. Dr. Ogden-Murdoch sounds like a character out of a horror novel! |
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Sept 21, 2014 18:18:41 GMT
but sometimes it makes me think that William is intimidated by her and therefore he remains too passive. I thought that hearing William call Julia Mrs MURDOCH could be a demonstration of his affection that she could enjoy and also a proof that she was able to let her walls come down. Men like think that women need them, LOL . And if she called him Mr ODGEN, it could be funny but it also could make William feel belittled and demeaned . I think MM has been doing a great job depicting William as truly modern man: one that can act responsibly and intelligently yet be considerate of others and respect their right to be doing the same. I think Yannick Bisson as an actor brings more than a little bit of his personal capabilities in that area to the role. Though William's character is reserved, he clearly has ideas about manhood that he upholds. He seems secure and reliable: there's never been a hint that he doesn't think he wouldn't make a good husband for Julia, even with the financial/class differences. I also think William will call Julia Mrs. Murdoch as a sign of affection, and she won't mind. Julia respects William and wants to uphold his sense of manhood ( she does want him to ride to her rescue and sweep her off her feet sometimes...). I think if Julia called William Mr. Ogden in private, he would find it amusing and wouldn't feel demeaned at all: he'd see the logic in it. |
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Sept 22, 2014 20:12:25 GMT
I love the idea that "Mrs. Murdoch" would only be used between William and Julia. It underscores William's acceptance of Julia as a modern, independent woman in society at large, but he's enough of a traditionalist to want to identify 'his woman'. So long as it's just between the two of them, I think Julia would find it adorable, but I don't think she would ever call him Mr. Odgen. He would find that hurtful.
|
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2014 3:48:29 GMT
but I don't think she would ever call him Mr. Odgen. He would find that hurtful. W hy does everyone think he would find that hurtful? William didn't seem hurt by a counter-wedding proposal. If it's in private, why wouldn't he enjoy being called Mr. Ogden? Is this a guy thing? |
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Sept 23, 2014 18:15:59 GMT
but I don't think she would ever call him Mr. Odgen. He would find that hurtful. W hy does everyone think he would find that hurtful? William didn't seem hurt by a counter-wedding proposal. If it's in private, why wouldn't he enjoy being called Mr. Ogden? Is this a guy thing?I don't know. William is oddly sensitive about some things. I can't pin it down for you, it's just a feeling. Maybe I'm the one who would find it hurtful. I do think it's a guy thing though. They're ok when their wives keep their maiden name but they somehow feel like less of a man if he's identified by her name. Even today, no men take their wives names or even hyphenate them! |
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 18:23:09 GMT
W hy does everyone think he would find that hurtful? William didn't seem hurt by a counter-wedding proposal. If it's in private, why wouldn't he enjoy being called Mr. Ogden? Is this a guy thing?I don't know. William is oddly sensitive about some things. I can't pin it down for you, it's just a feeling. Maybe I'm the one who would find it hurtful. I do think it's a guy thing though. They're ok when their wives keep their maiden name but they somehow feel like less of a man if he's identified by her name. Even today, no men take their wives names or even hyphenate them! I know of one guy that took his wife's mother's maiden name. His name was Sidebottom, I know my friend wouldn't take that but her name was OGDEN and she didn't even want to keep that one! Needless to say who wore the pants in that family, btw HE was a cop! |
|
|
|
Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2014 18:35:46 GMT
I had a coworker who decided to combine his name with hers to symbolize a new union. But that's not common. Another coworker decided that they would just get a new name altogether, and as for me, legally I go by both maiden and married names. I just don't feel comfortable in saying that the person I was for 34 years ceased to exist on my wedding day. But, it was important to my husband-so we compromised. But, I'm Ms. HisLastName at school. But that's a modern thing, so I'm not for a moment saying that Julia would do likewise.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Sept 23, 2014 19:02:08 GMT
I had a coworker who decided to combine his name with hers to symbolize a new union. But that's not common. Another coworker decided that they would just get a new name altogether, and as for me, legally I go by both maiden and married names. I just don't feel comfortable in saying that the person I was for 34 years ceased to exist on my wedding day. But, it was important to my husband-so we compromised. But, I'm Ms. HisLastName at school. But that's a modern thing, so I'm not for a moment saying that Julia would do likewise. I was married some years ago when it was normal for a wife to change her name. To be honest I didn't mind, I preferred my husband's surname to mine, I was happy to let it go. |
|
- Mrs MURDOCH or when he introduces her -with pride 
- to the people met outside their work environment.
. And if she called him Mr ODGEN, it could be funny but it also could make William feel belittled and demeaned 
.