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Post by ziggy on Oct 1, 2014 4:34:32 GMT
I don’t know why they would do that as they have enough time to do adverts even if they aired the full episode. Cutting them back not only ruins the whole thing in most cases, they often end up with 7-8 minutes left in the hour after the episode ends and they just do more adverts right up to the top of the hour when their next program is scheduled to start. And they are even doing that now with the reruns of the regular episodes, not just S1. Senseless. CBC has a lot of ads for it's other shows so ultimately has more ad time than CityTV hence the older shows are edited down. From S6 the shows were filmed for CBC and are slightly shorter. CBC doesn't have time at the end of the show, they go right into the next show. Different channel, different schedule and the older shows have to fit the new schedule.  The problem isn't the fact they're edited down, the problem is what is edited out, it sometimes doesn't make sense. I'm sure the editor isn't a MM fan and therefore doesn't know what is and isn't important to fans, not that any of MM isn't important! There again, perhaps they don't care.... What I noticed is that this cutting really took off when they decided to air S1. All the endless reruns they’ve been doing over the years as full episodes are now being chopped. Sometimes they rerun the same episode multiple times a day and the first rerun is cut in places different from the second rerun which comes immediately after. This is not just affecting S1. I know S7 episodes were a couple of minutes shorter than previous seasons but even some of those have been chopped as well. It’s like they were given the go-ahead to scale episodes down if required and someone is quite happy to cut away to their heart’s desire as though it is compulsory that they must cut. Like I said, with all the cutting they do, they now more often have excess time at the end of the hour and all they do is run extra adverts besides the ones they already ran during the episode. It doesn't matter whether it is CityTV, CBC, FXX or AMI, it's happening all over. Sometimes you even get them doing voice interpretation on a channel other than AMI that is meant for the visually impaired. Well, I suppose there’s a few changes going on in making MM more accessible to more people this season, and after the initial excitement, the editors will adjust things. There are fans already complaining loudly about this and I am sure CBC and MM would eventually sort things out. |
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Post by ziggy on Oct 1, 2014 4:59:07 GMT
It’s not just this. Another thing they do is show reruns of the same 15-20 or so episodes from S2-S6 all these years. Up until very recently, nothing whatsoever from S1 or the rest of the episodes from S2-S6. There’s at least 78 episodes in total that they could have aired.
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Post by snacky on Oct 1, 2014 6:12:24 GMT
CBC has a lot of ads for it's other shows so ultimately has more ad time than CityTV hence the older shows are edited down. From S6 the shows were filmed for CBC and are slightly shorter. CBC doesn't have time at the end of the show, they go right into the next show. Different channel, different schedule and the older shows have to fit the new schedule. The problem isn't the fact they're edited down, the problem is what is edited out, it sometimes doesn't make sense. I'm sure the editor isn't a MM fan and therefore doesn't know what is and isn't important to fans, not that any of MM isn't important! There again, perhaps they don't care.... This was a complaint of mine about BBCA and the show Red Cap that I've mentioned before. We found out from British fans that we weren't getting key character development scenes, and that the shows were edited for time. The scenes surrounding the actual mystery were left untouched, but as we've discussed on this board, some of those character development scenes were amongst the most delicious and were the reasons we tuned into the show week after week. Luckily, our fellow fans across the pond taped them for us and sent them to us. Of course, we then had to get the tape converted from PAL to NTSC, but we each contributed money for the cost, and it was negligible in the end.. .such was life before Youtube and streaming on demand video services.  Such a pain, though! And for me it gives fans one more reason to be staking out the content they want and even less reason to trust distributors to handle it properly. Seriously, in a day in age where fans can find out where TV is cutting something, this should be counted as a major sin. It degrades TV content next to on-demand. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 1, 2014 6:16:16 GMT
CBC has a lot of ads for it's other shows so ultimately has more ad time than CityTV hence the older shows are edited down. From S6 the shows were filmed for CBC and are slightly shorter. CBC doesn't have time at the end of the show, they go right into the next show. Different channel, different schedule and the older shows have to fit the new schedule. The problem isn't the fact they're edited down, the problem is what is edited out, it sometimes doesn't make sense. I'm sure the editor isn't a MM fan and therefore doesn't know what is and isn't important to fans, not that any of MM isn't important! There again, perhaps they don't care.... What I noticed is that this cutting really took off when they decided to air S1. All the endless reruns they’ve been doing over the years as full episodes are now being chopped. Sometimes they rerun the same episode multiple times a day and the first rerun is cut in places different from the second rerun which comes immediately after. This is not just affecting S1. I know S7 episodes were a couple of minutes shorter than previous seasons but even some of those have been chopped as well. It’s like they were given the go-ahead to scale episodes down if required and someone is quite happy to cut away to their heart’s desire as though it is compulsory that they must cut. Like I said, with all the cutting they do, they now more often have excess time at the end of the hour and all they do is run extra adverts besides the ones they already ran during the episode. It doesn't matter whether it is CityTV, CBC, FXX or AMI, it's happening all over. Sometimes you even get them doing voice interpretation on a channel other than AMI that is meant for the visually impaired. Well, I suppose there’s a few changes going on in making MM more accessible to more people this season, and after the initial excitement, the editors will adjust things. There are fans already complaining loudly about this and I am sure CBC and MM would eventually sort things out. They probably figure that in the areas MM is rerunning, they've already hooked most of their fans, and MM is just filler. The syndication just reminds people of the characters during the week before the new episodes come on. But as I said in my other post, it would be a grave mistake to do this to areas with new fans in the Internet age. Once those fans find out they are "missing something", they will look for what they missed. And that might mean avoiding the "truncated" TV content all together! |
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Post by snacky on Oct 1, 2014 6:22:34 GMT
Well, I suppose there’s a few changes going on in making MM more accessible to more people this season, and after the initial excitement, the editors will adjust things. There are fans already complaining loudly about this and I am sure CBC and MM would eventually sort things out. What are they doing to make MM "more accessible"?  Their formula already ruled as it was. The only thing different about this season I knew about was that it's supposed to be "10% darker" and William and Julia are supposed to get married. Yannick suggested other character changes in a recent interview, though - that's why were speculating on George trying to become a detective. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 1, 2014 6:24:59 GMT
It’s not just this. Another thing they do is show reruns of the same 15-20 or so episodes from S2-S6 all these years. Up until very recently, nothing whatsoever from S1 or the rest of the episodes from S2-S6. There’s at least 78 episodes in total that they could have aired. Why did they omit S1? That's strange. That also makes me wonder if the 2 American channels (that we know of) only have Season 1. Way back when PBS bought syndication rights, they only bought S1. Is S1 in a separate syndication package somehow? |
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Post by ziggy on Oct 1, 2014 20:59:10 GMT
Well, I suppose there’s a few changes going on in making MM more accessible to more people this season, and after the initial excitement, the editors will adjust things. There are fans already complaining loudly about this and I am sure CBC and MM would eventually sort things out. What are they doing to make MM "more accessible"? Their formula already ruled as it was. The only thing different about this season I knew about was that it's supposed to be "10% darker" and William and Julia are supposed to get married. Yannick suggested other character changes in a recent interview, though - that's why were speculating on George trying to become a detective. What I mean by accessible is that there seems to be renewed effort to get MM onto more TV screens especially in the US. Some TV stations are now beginning to air the show under its real name MM instead of The Artful Detective and show more seasons too (and that’s causing some confusion at the moment) as people are asking whey the name was changed to MM, lol. That is minor and I think people will settle down once they know that they are one and the same thing and tune in whatever name they see. |
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Post by ziggy on Oct 1, 2014 21:00:15 GMT
It’s not just this. Another thing they do is show reruns of the same 15-20 or so episodes from S2-S6 all these years. Up until very recently, nothing whatsoever from S1 or the rest of the episodes from S2-S6. There’s at least 78 episodes in total that they could have aired. Why did they omit S1? That's strange. That also makes me wonder if the 2 American channels (that we know of) only have Season 1. Way back when PBS bought syndication rights, they only bought S1. Is S1 in a separate syndication package somehow? Exactly. That’s what I have been wondering too. I don’t know if S1 is in a separate syndication package with PBS. I don’t see how that should affect what they show in Canada. If they could show reruns from S2-S6, why couldn’t they show anything from S1. I, for one, got hooked on MM because of S1 all those years ago when they were just starting out. Quite a number of my favorite episodes come from there. Having to wait more than 6 years to see a rerun of any of them is not the best way to keep my interest. Fortunately, I have all the DVDs from S1-S6 and I could always watch those but not everyone has that option. What was the criteria they used to decide which seasons to show or which episodes to show from the seasons they decided to show, because they just repeat the same episodes from the small pool of episodes they show over and over again. There are other episodes in those seasons too that never get aired. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 2, 2014 1:19:11 GMT
What are they doing to make MM "more accessible"? Their formula already ruled as it was. The only thing different about this season I knew about was that it's supposed to be "10% darker" and William and Julia are supposed to get married. Yannick suggested other character changes in a recent interview, though - that's why were speculating on George trying to become a detective. What I mean by accessible is that there seems to be renewed effort to get MM onto more TV screens especially in the US. Some TV stations are now beginning to air the show under its real name MM instead of The Artful Detective and show more seasons too (and that’s causing some confusion at the moment) as people are asking whey the name was changed to MM, lol. That is minor and I think people will settle down once they know that they are one and the same thing and tune in whatever name they see. Are there any others besides Tampa and Atlanta? No word yet from the stations I wrote. |
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Post by ziggy on Oct 3, 2014 6:36:21 GMT
What I mean by accessible is that there seems to be renewed effort to get MM onto more TV screens especially in the US. Some TV stations are now beginning to air the show under its real name MM instead of The Artful Detective and show more seasons too (and that’s causing some confusion at the moment) as people are asking whey the name was changed to MM, lol. That is minor and I think people will settle down once they know that they are one and the same thing and tune in whatever name they see. Are there any others besides Tampa and Atlanta? No word yet from the stations I wrote. I don’t know which states. I just know that Acorn is airing all 7 seasons. At least that’s good news for those that subscribe to them. |
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The problem isn't the fact they're edited down, the problem is what is edited out, it sometimes doesn't make sense. I'm sure the editor isn't a MM fan and therefore doesn't know what is and isn't important to fans, not that any of MM isn't important! There again, perhaps they don't care....
Their formula already ruled as it was. The only thing different about this season I knew about was that it's supposed to be "10% darker" and William and Julia are supposed to get married. Yannick suggested other character changes in a recent interview, though - that's why were speculating on George trying to become a detective.