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Post by barbarama on Oct 2, 2014 1:09:22 GMT
Episode title as per IMDb
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Post by snacky on Oct 2, 2014 1:16:04 GMT
Episode title as per IMDb I like where that title is leading.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 2, 2014 15:25:00 GMT
Episode title as per IMDb I like where that title is leading. This sounds awesome! George writes a book or does something and has hoardes of girls following him everywhere-until one of them kills another one... Okay, that probably won't happen, but it would be totally awesome if if did.
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Post by snacky on Oct 2, 2014 16:47:19 GMT
I like where that title is leading. This sounds awesome! George writes a book or does something and has hoardes of girls following him everywhere-until one of them kills another one... Okay, that probably won't happen, but it would be totally awesome if if did. Oooh I was wondering what might inspire the title. Perhaps George does have fans of his book. On the other hand I hope this doesn't become one of those slightly mean winks at fandom. I hate it when TV shows do that, and it's become increasingly common. Sherlock's "fan analysis of Sherlock's death" is a good example. Also, MM already went there a couple times with William making disparaging remarks about people watching TV. Really, writers? Please just try to resist biting the hand that feeds you. Just try.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 2, 2014 18:27:51 GMT
Also, MM already went there a couple times with William making disparaging remarks about people watching TV. Really, writers? Please just try to resist biting the hand that feeds you. Just try. I don't think they were deliberately disparaging remarks. William has often remarked about things he doesn't think would become popular, including paid hockey players (I agree on that), filmed depravity, games about murder and anything else that's not his 'cup of tea' i.e. reading a book. For all his intelligence William is not very good about predicting the future!
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Post by snacky on Oct 2, 2014 18:35:47 GMT
Also, MM already went there a couple times with William making disparaging remarks about people watching TV. Really, writers? Please just try to resist biting the hand that feeds you. Just try. I don't think they were deliberately disparaging remarks. William has often remarked about things he doesn't think would become popular, including paid hockey players (I agree on that), filmed depravity, games about murder and anything else that's not his 'cup of tea' i.e. reading a book. For all his intelligence William is not very good about predicting the future! I can't remember the exact remark, but I felt there was a difference between not thinking something would catch on and making a disparaging remark about people who would do that sort of thing.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 2, 2014 19:28:37 GMT
I don't think they were deliberately disparaging remarks. William has often remarked about things he doesn't think would become popular, including paid hockey players (I agree on that), filmed depravity, games about murder and anything else that's not his 'cup of tea' i.e. reading a book. For all his intelligence William is not very good about predicting the future! I can't remember the exact remark, but I felt there was a difference between not thinking something would catch on and making a disparaging remark about people who would do that sort of thing. Was it in 'The Filmed Adventures....' when he said he "couldn't envy a future where everyone wastes their lives staring at a screen watching made up stories"? I considered that was a dig at themselves and the TV/film industry.
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Post by snacky on Oct 3, 2014 5:21:32 GMT
I can't remember the exact remark, but I felt there was a difference between not thinking something would catch on and making a disparaging remark about people who would do that sort of thing. Was it in 'The Filmed Adventures....' when he said he "couldn't envy a future where everyone wastes their lives staring at a screen watching made up stories"? I considered that was a dig at themselves and the TV/film industry. Yes, that was the line I was thinking of. But there have been other small digs. There was the dig at Internet culture in Murdoch.com where William and Julia talked about the difference between online and personal communications. Also Emily made a dig at gamers in The Death of Dr. Ogden. I think the writers should reserve their predictive comments to "that will never happen..."
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 3, 2014 5:46:16 GMT
Was it in 'The Filmed Adventures....' when he said he "couldn't envy a future where everyone wastes their lives staring at a screen watching made up stories"? I considered that was a dig at themselves and the TV/film industry. Yes, that was the line I was thinking of. But there have been other small digs. There was the dig at Internet culture in Murdoch.com where William and Julia talked about the difference between online and personal communications. Also Emily made a dig at gamers in The Death of Dr. Ogden. I think the writers should reserve their predictive comments to "that will never happen..." I guess I'm with Talbottrail and that I viewed them as lighthearted digs at society in general-and didn't get offended by them. I thought they were funny.
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Post by snacky on Oct 3, 2014 5:55:18 GMT
Yes, that was the line I was thinking of. But there have been other small digs. There was the dig at Internet culture in Murdoch.com where William and Julia talked about the difference between online and personal communications. Also Emily made a dig at gamers in The Death of Dr. Ogden. I think the writers should reserve their predictive comments to "that will never happen..." I guess I'm with Talbottrail and that I viewed them as lighthearted digs at society in general-and didn't get offended by them. I thought they were funny. I've become grouchy through seeing such digs across TV shows in general, so perhaps I'm over-sensitive. The one on Sherlock I've seen before (though I couldn't quite place where): the "mirroring" of the obsessed fan as the pasty overweight girl speculating on the slash relationship. The Sherlock writers seriously need to take some brillo and bleach to their stereotypes. (Though I have to say it annoys me just as much when fans do things to reinforce those stereotypes...).
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 3, 2014 6:01:45 GMT
I guess I'm with Talbottrail and that I viewed them as lighthearted digs at society in general-and didn't get offended by them. I thought they were funny. I've become grouchy through seeing such digs across TV shows in general, so perhaps I'm over-sensitive. The one on Sherlock I've seen before (though I couldn't quite place where): the "mirroring" of the obsessed fan as the pasty overweight girl speculating on the slash relationship. The Sherlock writers seriously need to take some brillo and bleach to their stereotypes. (Though I have to say it annoys me just as much when fans do things to reinforce those stereotypes...). I've only seen one part of one episode of Sherlock, but I think I know which scene you're talking about-the one where the fan follows him to the bathroom and crosses major lines of acceptability? Perhaps a bit mean spirited on the part of the writers, but unfortunately, for many stereotypes, there is some truth to them-remember the American fan at MM set tour that just made us cringe? I'll grant you that the Sherlock episode went a bit far in mocking that type of fan, but I don't think MM has-their attacks (if you can even call them that) have been pretty general.
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Post by snacky on Oct 3, 2014 6:05:33 GMT
I've become grouchy through seeing such digs across TV shows in general, so perhaps I'm over-sensitive. The one on Sherlock I've seen before (though I couldn't quite place where): the "mirroring" of the obsessed fan as the pasty overweight girl speculating on the slash relationship. The Sherlock writers seriously need to take some brillo and bleach to their stereotypes. (Though I have to say it annoys me just as much when fans do things to reinforce those stereotypes...). I've only seen one part of one episode of Sherlock, but I think I know which scene you're talking about-the one where the fan follows him to the bathroom and crosses major lines of acceptability? Perhaps a bit mean spirited on the part of the writers, but unfortunately, for many stereotypes, there is some truth to them-remember the American fan at MM set tour that just made us cringe? I'll grant you that the Sherlock episode went a bit far in mocking that type of fan, but I don't think MM has-their attacks (if you can even call them that) have been pretty general. In the episode after Sherlock's death, there are some scenes where various groups of people speculate on whether Sherlock is really dead. One of the groups is the equivalent of "fandom", and the plump pasty goth girl gives her "slash" theory of Sherlock's survival - which is promptly mocked by the cooler guys in the group.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 3, 2014 6:27:25 GMT
It was in “The Filmed Adventures….”. I too didn’t take the statement as disparaging. I saw it as William failing, like he has done many times before, to use his imagination and see far enough into the future. It didn’t surprise me. Edison himself didn’t see how sound would work with moving pictures either. It makes you wonder about these “intelligent” men.
I think this episode is all about George and his “gargle of admirers” (Brackenried – 513), the kids and the young at heart. George has grown in leaps and bounds these last few seasons, solving murder mysteries whilst William’s been busy. He’s acquired his own following now. He even has episodes entitled to him in the seasons. I am very pleased for him, he deserves it. All that is left now is for one of his investments to bring home the jackpot so he can buy himself a house and put a wife in it and I think this season will deliver something for him.
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Post by snacky on Oct 3, 2014 6:37:28 GMT
I think this episode is all about George and his “gargle of admirers” (Brackenried – 513), the kids and the young at heart. George has grown in leaps and bounds these last few seasons, solving murder mysteries whilst William’s been busy. He’s acquired his own following now. He even has episodes entitled to him in the seasons. I am very pleased for him, he deserves it. All that is left now is for one of his investments to bring home the jackpot so he can buy himself a house and put a wife in it and I think this season will deliver something for him. Haha, George can probably do without the Constabulary at any time! He's just in it for the kicks.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 6, 2014 17:24:51 GMT
All that is left now is for one of his investments to bring home the jackpot so he can buy himself a house and put a wife in it and I think this season will deliver something for him. Haha, George can probably do without the Constabulary at any time! He's just in it for the kicks. Yeah, he's got a sharp business acumen and I am keen to see some results for him.
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