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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 1:18:22 GMT
William has moves and ease with Anna that he never show elsewhere on the show. No, he doesn't sleep with Anna on the show, but it hints at there being a man with some experience with women. Ahh, yes he knew what he was doing but he knew what he was doing with Julia too in TGM but we know it didn't go anywhere. No, they don't in that episode. But his brashness, earthiness, and ease/comfort with coming onto and pursuing Anna in the first half of the ep are what really hint at William at least having distant (logging camp, perhaps) experience sexually. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 1:27:10 GMT
Ahh, yes he knew what he was doing but he knew what he was doing with Julia too in TGM but we know it didn't go anywhere. No, they don't in that episode. But his brashness, earthiness, and ease/comfort with coming onto and pursuing Anna in the first half of the ep are what really hint at William at least having distant (logging camp, perhaps) experience sexually. You're right, he did know what he was doing with Julia in TGM as well-but it's not as compelling for man of experience theory because he still has an adorable bumbling cluelessness about him there. But, it still hints at it. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 2:03:08 GMT
No, they don't in that episode. But his brashness, earthiness, and ease/comfort with coming onto and pursuing Anna in the first half of the ep are what really hint at William at least having distant (logging camp, perhaps) experience sexually. You're right, he did know what he was doing with Julia in TGM as well-but it's not as compelling for man of experience theory because he still has an adorable bumbling cluelessness about him there. But, it still hints at it. Yes it does hint at it but I'm choosing the virgin way out here as nothing is canon for him having 'complete' experience. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 5:33:50 GMT
Snacky I know you don't go into FB but MM posted the fan video "trailer" that I posted here yesterday (or whenever). You have talked about how they should show more than just the artwork so I thought it was really great that they did that. They fully id'd it as something an fan did.....WELL....you should see all the posts about I don't like the music, blah blah blah. MM had to reply at least twice saying something to the effect of --- to CLARIFY, this is a FAN video folks! LOL - now I feel guilty, hahaha.  I'm so glad the MM team did recognize a fan-made video, but since they are putting out their own teasers for the wedding, and there were "TV" markers in it, I suppose they should have gone the extra mile to clarify that they were recognizing fan art. By the way, CBC is a little iffy about fan cred - they lost track of cred for the "Perfect Match" tie pic, too. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 5:54:52 GMT
You're right, he did know what he was doing with Julia in TGM as well-but it's not as compelling for man of experience theory because he still has an adorable bumbling cluelessness about him there. But, it still hints at it. Yes it does hint at it but I'm choosing the virgin way out here as nothing is canon for him having 'complete' experience. I wonder if these personalities are actually in different "compartments", and they come out depending on what part of William's brain is in use at that time. There's a clear difference between Casanova!William and Adorkable!William, as much as Yannick tries to maintain continuity. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 5:58:25 GMT
William has moves and ease with Anna that he never show elsewhere on the show. No, he doesn't sleep with Anna on the show, but it hints at there being a man with some experience with women. Ahh, yes he knew what he was doing but he knew what he was doing with Julia too in TGM but we know it didn't go anywhere. There's always my suggestion that part of TGM was William's drunken fantasy that he was "Casanova" while what Julia saw was probably more along the lines of "Adorkable"... |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 7:47:22 GMT
LOL! It's true! I don't think they'd troll so hard as to not marry them at all, but I do suspect that they won't actually give us a wedding-just a fade to black. However, CC speculated on Tumblr that they could just fade out on an image of William's tie on the floor, and that might possibly make up for the lack of a wedding.  For me, at least, anyway. Ooooh, ahhhhh! That might ALMOST be enough. When do we get to see the risque outfit that Helene tweeted? That had to be a wedding night troll  ! I used to think she actually had the tie in that pic, but it was an optical illusion.  |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 7:52:50 GMT
From Instagram: murdochmysteriesfanpage 13 hours ago Don't worry if you think you missed tonight's #MurdochMysteries episode- it was just a repeat. Next week is a new one though, and wedding bells will ring! Maybe will will get the wedding after all but I still don't completely trust the MM team. Wedding bells will ring repeatedly...in a dream! I saw an episode of Castle last night with my housemate, and I see what you guys meant by "pulling a Castle". That show's writing team clearly believes marriage will kill the UST (unresolved sexual tension), which will in turn lead to a bored audience. It occurred to me that our stakes might not be so much in the UST but in whether or not William is a virgin or not, lol. Once William is married, that question gets answered definitively. Hmm. Anyway, I do believe the marriage will happen on Monday, but I don't trust it will happen in a church and/or with a pretty dress.  |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 7:55:01 GMT
Ooooh, ahhhhh! That might ALMOST be enough. When do we get to see the risque outfit that Helene tweeted? That had to be a wedding night troll ! How sad is it that we now suspect everything to be a troll? How jaded we've become... I wonder if they plan on out-trolling a troll and everything they've posted actually happens.  Given the timing of the wedding and that tweet, I think that is a "honeymoon surprise" from episode 5. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 7:58:13 GMT
I'm in the same boat as you. However, there is something too irresistibly sweet about him waiting so long.  I think that should be the deciding factor: whatever feels the best for your "head canon". Saving himself for marriage, at least for a little while, is definitely sweet. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 8:39:20 GMT
You're right, he did know what he was doing with Julia in TGM as well-but it's not as compelling for man of experience theory because he still has an adorable bumbling cluelessness about him there. But, it still hints at it. Yes it does hint at it but I'm choosing the virgin way out here as nothing is canon for him having 'complete' experience. This is true. Which is why I often return to my duality theory. But currently, I'm leaning towards virgin. That could change though...it often does. Also, if the writers are in near agreement that he is, then most of what we see is William in fact, inexperienced. Such as William in the brothel last week-as nervous as a virgin in a whorehouse indeed! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 8:52:45 GMT
I'm in the same boat as you. However, there is something too irresistibly sweet about him waiting so long. I think that should be the deciding factor: whatever feels the best for your "head canon". Saving himself for marriage, at least for a little while, is definitely sweet. And that's why I waffle on the topic: I'm fine with William being unexperienced in early seasons because that means he was saving himself for marriage-first with Liza, then for Julia. But then Julia marries another man, and the thought of him waiting for her while she's married to another is not a happy, romantic thought for me. It kinda makes me sad, and makes me wish that he did go for it with Anna in SotWS. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 15:43:54 GMT
I think that should be the deciding factor: whatever feels the best for your "head canon".During the time Julia was married so he wasn't really saving himself for a married woman he really didn't have the opportunity. Saving himself for marriage, at least for a little while, is definitely sweet. And that's why I waffle on the topic: I'm fine with William being unexperienced in early seasons because that means he was saving himself for marriage-first with Liza, then for Julia. But then Julia marries another man, and the thought of him waiting for her while she's married to another is not a happy, romantic thought for me. It kinda makes me sad, and makes me wish that he did go for it with Anna in SotWS. Truth be told I'm totally torn by this. I WANT William to have been with Anna but I also WANT him to have saved himself for marriage (whether intentional or not). During the time Julia was married he really didn't have the opportunity to be with another woman other than Anna, or prostitutes and he wouldn't do that now even if he did when younger. So, I don't think he was saving himself for a married woman rather there were no other women in his life ... except Anna, and now we're back to did they or didn't they.... AAARG!! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 16:01:41 GMT
And that's why I waffle on the topic: I'm fine with William being unexperienced in early seasons because that means he was saving himself for marriage-first with Liza, then for Julia. But then Julia marries another man, and the thought of him waiting for her while she's married to another is not a happy, romantic thought for me. It kinda makes me sad, and makes me wish that he did go for it with Anna in SotWS. Truth be told I'm totally torn by this. I WANT William to have been with Anna but I also WANT him to have saved himself for marriage (whether intentional or not). During the time Julia was married he really didn't have the opportunity to be with another woman other than Anna, or prostitutes and he wouldn't do that now even if he did when younger. So, I don't think he was saving himself for a married woman rather there were no other women in his life ... except Anna, and now we're back to did they or didn't they.... AAARG!! The fanfic in my head has him thinking of Julia during the whole thing, while she calls him Harry. The irony being, neither one is with the one they want. I don't think William would deliberately do that to Anna, but an attempt to get over Julia with Anna? People do it all the time. Also, I think she's always been more interested in Harry than she has in William, and ultimately, they realized they were always going to be second best for one another. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 16:14:18 GMT
MM CBC fb page has just put up the trolling video with the following description of 804:
As their wedding day approaches, Murdoch and Ogden intervene in the trial of a woman accused of killing her husband. Don't miss the 100th episode of Murdoch Mysteries Monday at 8pm/8:30NT on CBC.
So now we know where the courthouse scene comes from.
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For me, at least, anyway. 
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