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Post by fan2tvshows on May 18, 2015 19:52:17 GMT
Anyone else having withdrawal symptoms since season 8 finished??? roll on season 9. Hello! What do you mean?
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 14, 2015 23:10:25 GMT
I just noticed that there is a distance between the two actors. I focuse my attention on their body language and (IMHO) I have the feeling that Yannick BISSON and Hélène JOY are angry with one another. And whatever the reason -it doesn't really matter to me/it's not my business/I'm not this kind of fans-, I just think they couldn't hide it in their interactions during the filming and I also suppose that they surely must be rather reticent to play certain scenes so the writers were obliged to cut/delete them. I'm French and yes, I must admit to have some difficulties to well understand English. I often asked SNACKY for translations. And maybe you think that I'm stupid to base a part of my opinion on the body language but according to me, it's very revealing. Do I have to remind that you can know when people are lying to you when their eyes go to the left? An evidence that you can't totally control your body. Another example, when you don't like or angry with someone, you hate that he or she touch you. So do the test: mute and watch as if you don't understand English. Whatever is going on with the actors off screen (and I myself, could care less), to allow it to permeate on-screen (as some seem to suggest) would be unprofessional beyond belief. If one can't "act" a part then one shouldn't be an "actor".
But I doubt very much that Directors, for example, would risk their own professional reputations by even allowing it to come across on screen and I can't imagine, for a minute, that a team of writers would cater to individual egos by writing around it.
Personally, I'm with my co-workers all day and for the most part they're great people and I enjoy working with them even after 10+ years for some of us . "Working" being the operative word. I honestly don't look forward to all the rah-rah events, galas, dinners, etc. that we are expected to attend after a full workday, where we have to go to the Toronto Convention Centre and spend another 4-5 hours in each other's presence. It's been along day of commuting and working and by then I'd rather be relaxing at home with my husband. It wouldn't surprise me at all if my body language betrayed my feelings at those events.
And occasionally a co-worker and I might happen to have disagreeing viewpoints on a work issue. I don't dislike them, heck, we've worked together more than 10 years and we spend 5 days a week/ 8 hrs/day together.... that's way more time than I spend with my husband during the week. But if that "off day" with my co-worker happened to also be one where we had to sit through a dinner together at the CC, then some people might pick up the moody vibes; if they studied us all evening.
If we look hard enough and when we analyze things to the nth degree, fodder for rumour and gossip can be found anywhere.
This is a board with a lot of passionate viewers and I get that and I understand cultures look at the same thing with different eyes but IMHO this line of discussion feels uncomfortable to me and I feel like it's heading nowhere good.
Something is ruining the TV show that I love watching. And yes, I can't help thinking the work of the actors is compromised/jeopardized by a disagreement between them and that's unprofessional. But I should keep in mind, acting/being an actor is a hard work and not a work like the others. So I suppose that sometimes, it's hard for them to get past their resentment. After all, they are only human. I also realize how different my point of view about this TV show is than yours. And I don't like how my opinions are ruining the forum -surely because I do not hesitate to say openly that I'm often disappointed- but it's not my intention.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 14, 2015 21:59:14 GMT
I just noticed that there is a distance between the two actors. I focuse my attention on their body language and (IMHO) I have the feeling that Yannick BISSON and Hélène JOY are angry with one another. And whatever the reason -it doesn't really matter to me/it's not my business/I'm not this kind of fans-, I just think they couldn't hide it in their interactions during the filming and I also suppose that they surely must be rather reticent to play certain scenes so the writers were obliged to cut/delete them. I'm French and yes, I must admit to have some difficulties to well understand English. I often asked SNACKY for translations. And maybe you think that I'm stupid to base a part of my opinion on the body language but according to me, it's very revealing. Do I have to remind that you can know when people are lying to you when their eyes go to the left? An evidence that you can't totally control your body. Another example, when you don't like or angry with someone, you hate that he or she touch you. So do the test: mute and watch as if you don't understand English. You have a good idea there. I, for one, do not perceive any anger between the actors. I do believe that neither one is very fond of physically romantic scenes. Yannick is happily married and Helene I think is gay. There, I said it. Find me any mention of ANY relationship she's had that has made it to the media. Whatever the reasons, there are so many ways for the writer to include romantic/loving gestures without them getting really physical. I must say though, after Julia's nightmare in "The Incurables" it would have been nice to see them spoon together as a way to convey William's care and concern for her in 3 seconds instead of the time wasted on his flopping back down and zooming in on her face. About the anger or whaterver it is, I based my opinion on the video about the 100th episode. m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLC4AE5B7BAB322839&index=1&v=hd8ims28SS8In the other previous interviews, we could notice that they built up a great complicity between them. But in this one, it's the Cold War. Yannick BISSON seems to be ill-at-ease. He keeps his head turned toward the opposite side from her. He remains upright as if he is afraid of touching her. And it's the same for her. Hélène JOY turns her back on him all the time and she stays as far as possible from him.They don't talk to each other and they even don't look at each other. No smiles and laughters anymore. I don't care about gossip magazines. I just notice that they as actors were pretty good at giving us the illusion that the two characters were truly in love with each other. Now, I notice that Yannick BISSON don't know where he can lay his hands. See how fast he removed his hand from her thigh in "The Devil Wears Whalebone". And in the last episode, when she run in his arms, he didn't open his arms, he just put them in front of him as he expected her to take his hands. Bref, quel gâchis! What a waste! And of course, the "after nightmare" scene should have been different but as you said: "neither one is very fond of physically romantic scenes" -and I would add- anymore. They had no such problem in "The Green Muse".
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 14, 2015 21:01:06 GMT
This remark probably needs to be clarified a bit. I believe lizmc is talking about the Canadian audience and fan2tvshows is talking about the French audience. While fan is caught up to the current episode, the episodes of MM airing on French TV (which are attracting a growing French audience) aren't current. fan2tvshows - what season/episode is France currently on? However, the opinions of the French group that is invested enough to keep up with the current episode is also important: these are the guys making the vids and images, writing the fic, making the tumblr posts - doing all the fan work as "taste makers" for MM. So leaving the impression that William is a "bad husband" is, er,...bad advertising. In France, there were four episodes every Sunday night (with no ads before, during or even between the episodes): an all new episod of the seventh season followed by three random picked up from the first five seasons. And we surely must wait until september for watching the eighth season. But once you are caught, you can't stop watching even if you are disappointed. At least, it's the truth in my case and I can't explain it. Maybe I'm too optimistic, I hope they will find again this little "I don't know what" which made this TV show a great success with a good balance between mysteries, romance -especially between Julia and William, my favorite-, funny times -I miss them-, a set ofhistorical, social, political, ethical and geographical references. But it won't be true with the next season if they do an all new one.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 14, 2015 19:46:06 GMT
I would add that I can see through the scenes between Julia and William that the actors have difficulties to be/remain professional. And I start to think that writers had to adapt the scripts in this season in response to their changing moods. What are you suggesting with this? Do you think they have a thing for one another or do you mean they can no longer stand each other. Either way I think you're wrong. I just noticed that there is a distance between the two actors. I focuse my attention on their body language and (IMHO) I have the feeling that Yannick BISSON and Hélène JOY are angry with one another. And whatever the reason -it doesn't really matter to me/it's not my business/I'm not this kind of fans-, I just think they couldn't hide it in their interactions during the filming and I also suppose that they surely must be rather reticent to play certain scenes so the writers were obliged to cut/delete them. I'm French and yes, I must admit to have some difficulties to well understand English. I often asked SNACKY for translations. And maybe you think that I'm stupid to base a part of my opinion on the body language but according to me, it's very revealing. Do I have to remind that you can know when people are lying to you when their eyes go to the left? An evidence that you can't totally control your body. Another example, when you don't like or angry with someone, you hate that he or she touch you. So do the test: mute and watch as if you don't understand English.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 14, 2015 18:23:51 GMT
Then let me ask you this. If the show is falling apart and fans are becoming dissatisfied, why are viewing numbers going up? [/p]
[/quote] Just because they haven't yet seen the three last seasons of MM. Their opinion is surely based on the first episodes which are the best ones.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 11, 2015 20:58:18 GMT
I think there was some good ideas in this episode but they were badly exploited. I understand that Julia is a strong woman but I was disapointed to see that she is so much strong than it was her who reassured her husband after SHE had a nightmare/an unpleasant dream. I know they want to give her the image of a woman who doesn't need to be rescued but in the same time, William seems to not be a good husband. I would add that I can see through the scenes between Julia and William that the actors have difficulties to be/remain professional. And I start to think that writers had to adapt the scripts in this season in response to their changing moods. In three words: JILLIAM IS DEAD. I like the performance of the other actresses who played the incurable. It must be hard to pretend to be insane without exaggeration. Julia has a highly developed survival instinct. She doesn't hesitate to fight. And even if she does like a girl, I like it.:-) Poor George! He's still so nice/so kind. He was unable to say no and he felt compelled to take the doll's fingerprints. LOL.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jan 18, 2015 19:34:23 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6A8nKbF1pADetective MURDOCH is wounded. Nurse CRABTREE is needed! I can't help joking. I thought that it could be dangerous to keep wearing a blood-stained garment in the woods because of bears. He probably wasn't wearing his hat. PROTECTIVE HOMBURG POWERS DOWN! I REPEAT PROTECTIVE HOMBURG POWERS DOWN! Indeed but he surely wore the hat that he wore when he prospected for gold during his exile in the Yukon. It's more appropriate for this type of excursions.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jan 18, 2015 19:13:18 GMT
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jan 18, 2015 16:06:21 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6A8nKbF1pADetective MURDOCH is wounded. Nurse CRABTREE is needed! I can't help joking. I thought that it could be dangerous to keep wearing a blood-stained garment in the woods because of bears.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jan 17, 2015 0:26:18 GMT
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Post by fan2tvshows on Nov 10, 2014 19:20:42 GMT
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Post by fan2tvshows on Nov 9, 2014 19:18:06 GMT
I'm waiting for the full scene, but maybe, just maybe. And now, what do you think?
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Post by fan2tvshows on Nov 9, 2014 19:14:13 GMT
The writers described the character of William MURDOCH as a fervent/devout Catholic in the TV show and that's enough for me to say that he is a virgin. He often has almost blindy respected the principles of his religion and his beliefs made his relationship with Julia very complicated. And therefore, if I learnt that he wasn't a virgin, I would think that he is the biggest hypocrite. However I don't care if I'm right or wrong, it doesn't really matter. The point is I like facts and not suppositions. If he wasn't a virgin, there would be more questions (when and with who) and of course, there would be questions that we will never have clear and indisputable answers. So yes I will wait for watching the full episode. As a historian, it wouldn't surprise me if William were a virgin. However, I think many modern people - even Catholics- have trouble imagining this. I have a male friend in a Catholic country, and I'm watching MM with him to get his perspective. He doesn't even think virginity is an issue until I bring it up. So I think historical context actually weighs more than Catholicism in the balance. I'm not a historian but I already mentionned this point in one of my comments that you can read below. "To finish, at this time, it was normal to remain a virgin for men and women who believed in social mores/decency until their weeding and whatever their age. Read more: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/user/376/recent?page=7#ixzz3IbHI7tne". And this is another reason that I don't understand why it would be so uncredible that William is still a virgin.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Nov 3, 2014 9:49:46 GMT
I'm waiting for the full scene, but maybe, just maybe. The writers described the character of William MURDOCH as a fervent/devout Catholic in the TV show and that's enough for me to say that he is a virgin. He often has almost blindy respected the principles of his religion and his beliefs made his relationship with Julia very complicated. And therefore, if I learnt that he wasn't a virgin, I would think that he is the biggest hypocrite. However I don't care if I'm right or wrong, it doesn't really matter. The point is I like facts and not suppositions. If he wasn't a virgin, there would be more questions (when and with who) and of course, there would be questions that we will never have clear and indisputable answers. So yes I will wait for watching the full episode.
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