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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 7:49:34 GMT
phrase "season..... killer". You know what would really be annoying? What if Season Killer means killing off the whole show? Sometimes writers hit a dry spell and start making noises about "ending on a high note". They've already had a wedding. Some portion of the shippers were even demanding a "natural ending" to the show after they got *their* wedding. (I know I've repeated this a few times, but man that still gets my goat. Please do not dictate the end of the show for the REST OF THE FANS!) If it were an American show, investors would be making noises about salaries getting high as well. Peter Mitchell did say that writers were floating ideas for next season already, and since previous seasons were only half a season long by American standards, technically MM is really only 5 seasons old.  So if there are any writers making noises about "ending on a high note" already, that writer is a talentless wuss and a blame-shifty weasel. Start the NEXT SEASON on a high note by hiring a writer with some fresh ideas. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 8:03:49 GMT
If it's Gillies, the show has jumped the shark. That's why I said the writers are going to have to do something big to reintegrate Julia-they can, but will they? That remains to be seen. I've felt that ever since Julia went into psychiatry. I never felt "profiling" was enough. But what do you think of this private forensics lab idea? That could get Julia back into a science setting at least, and she could do a wide variety of things to help solve cases from psychological profiling to dabbling with chemistry sets to autopsies. Indeed. I like Julia's skills as a medical practitioner, psychiatrist, and nerd being used. This would fit the bill of something big that the show would have to do, but it remains to be seen that they'll do it. I hope they do something like this. |
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Post by monty151 on Nov 23, 2014 8:11:30 GMT
I have always felt Julia's natural place was the morgue. She can't go back there but she could set up a private forensic lab, let's call it CSI Toronto, to analyse the evidence collected at crime scenes. There would then be a reason for her to visit William or vise versa instead of her randomly turning up.
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 8:50:32 GMT
I've felt that ever since Julia went into psychiatry. I never felt "profiling" was enough. But what do you think of this private forensics lab idea? That could get Julia back into a science setting at least, and she could do a wide variety of things to help solve cases from psychological profiling to dabbling with chemistry sets to autopsies. Indeed. I like Julia's skills as a medical practitioner, psychiatrist, and nerd being used. This would fit the bill of something big that the show would have to do, but it remains to be seen that they'll do it. I hope they do something like this. That might even create a scenario of Julia working for the competition "against" William!  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 8:52:23 GMT
I have always felt Julia's natural place was the morgue. She can't go back there but she could set up a private forensic lab, let's call it CSI Toronto, to analyse the evidence collected at crime scenes. There would then be a reason for her to visit William or vise versa instead of her randomly turning up. I want to see William getting all schmoopy over Julia doing chemistry for him again.  It would be funny if the lab name was a CSI rip off.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 23, 2014 15:01:02 GMT
I'm with you...I'm starting to suspect that someone's gonna get killed off as well. I don't want it to be Julia, but in many aspects, the writers have marginalized her character already, so unless they pull out something pretty big, I wouldn't blame the actress for wanting to leave. Well since that would be the ruin of the show after all the effort that has gone into courting shippers, I'm pretty sure all hands would be on deck to make sure that doesn't happen. I'm sort of glad that William Murdoch is the clear lead here though. The X-Files used to pull the stupidest crap with Gillian Anderson. They'd make her sweat and play hardball, but then she'd come out thinking she had a decent deal...and then she would find out David Duchovny got twice the deal plus stock options. It was a recipe for underlying tension on the set and "phoning it in". It seems really hard for actors to assert their value - what their contribution is in generating the profits of the show for everyone - without being put through some great personal trauma. I hope the process is more fair in Canada. (Though it seems that actors there are being denied across the board their fair share of what tv shows earn once distributed). Regarding Julia and/or Emily: private crime lab!!!! The MM cast is tight-knit, and they have been working together for years. I seriously doubt YB would make such a light-hearted comment about losing someone he's worked with for so long. There may be one or more characters placed at risk of death, but I doubt a regular will actually die. My money is on trolling the fans. As for killers: maybe it's...GILLIES~ Yes they are ALWAYS trolling us. Say it with me now. LONG LIVE THE TROLL! |
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Post by ziggy on Nov 24, 2014 3:25:39 GMT
I think they are looking to kill a main character off. I have had that feeling now since the end of S6 and there’s been a few clues, the most glaring in Kung Fu Crabtree where SH4 team sat at table #4. My Philippino friend told me that it is a very bad omen – meaning “Death”. When Brax got worked over by the O’Sheas, I feared the worst for him but somehow, I felt it wasn’t him but a member of the team that wasn’t at the table. For now, I prefer to think that it won’t get to that.
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 24, 2014 22:05:39 GMT
Which is what concerns me-she might leave if they don't give her more of a role than the little missus to William. They've written themselves into a corner with her character-and it remains to be seen how they'll get themselves out. I'll trust them for now, but I might see this coming. Which might be why we got the wedding.  Grr, that's what I've been saying. That's why I've been talking about the possibility of Julia being "disappeared" for a while after the marriage to recreate the angst of will they/won't they. There is nothing for Julia to do as a psychologist, and I think the "wife of the detective" can only last a season at most. I would seriously like to be proven wrong on this, and I hope the writers are more creative than I am. I think a lot of problems would be solved if Julia had a more active "crime solving" role in a "science" setting - perhaps her own crime lab or something. Or perhaps William and Julia start the world's first private crime lab together and take business from the Pinkertons, other private detectives, the government, as well as the Constabulary. Scenario 1: The writers are stupid and cut Helene's role so much that she has time to pick up another series. Don't forget she managed to do Durham County at the same time as MM, so there's still hope IMO. Scenario 2: The Murdochs open up the first ever crime lab (LOVE this idea) with Julia doing the lab work and William goes on a lecture tour to promote forensic science in general and their lab in particular. This is the nucleus of William's personal fortune so he can feel equal to Julia in this area. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 24, 2014 22:32:38 GMT
Scenario 1: The writers are stupid and cut Helene's role so much that she has time to pick up another series. Don't forget she managed to do Durham County at the same time as MM, so there's still hope IMO. Scenario 2: The Murdochs open up the first ever crime lab (LOVE this idea) with Julia doing the lab work and William goes on a lecture tour to promote forensic science in general and their lab in particular. This is the nucleus of William's personal fortune so he can feel equal to Julia in this area. I like scenario 2! We know William can lecture, he did a great job in Big Murderer on Campus. This would be a way for him to break out and do more than just be a detective as we know he'll never break through that glass ceiling. Unless CC Giles finally puts his prejudice aside and admits a Catholic can make a good cop too despite their beliefs, which in reality aren't all that different from Anglican beliefs. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 25, 2014 1:51:12 GMT
Scenario 1: The writers are stupid and cut Helene's role so much that she has time to pick up another series. Don't forget she managed to do Durham County at the same time as MM, so there's still hope IMO. Scenario 2: The Murdochs open up the first ever crime lab (LOVE this idea) with Julia doing the lab work and William goes on a lecture tour to promote forensic science in general and their lab in particular. This is the nucleus of William's personal fortune so he can feel equal to Julia in this area. I like scenario 2! We know William can lecture, he did a great job in Big Murderer on Campus. This would be a way for him to break out and do more than just be a detective as we know he'll never break through that glass ceiling. Unless CC Giles finally puts his prejudice aside and admits a Catholic can make a good cop too despite their beliefs, which in reality aren't all that different from Anglican beliefs. But then, who would he feel superior to?  |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 25, 2014 1:54:36 GMT
I like scenario 2! We know William can lecture, he did a great job in Big Murderer on Campus. This would be a way for him to break out and do more than just be a detective as we know he'll never break through that glass ceiling. Unless CC Giles finally puts his prejudice aside and admits a Catholic can make a good cop too despite their beliefs, which in reality aren't all that different from Anglican beliefs. But then, who would he feel superior to? Wasn't it CC Stockton who was so prejudiced against Catholics? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 3:46:21 GMT
But then, who would he feel superior to? Wasn't it CC Stockton who was so prejudiced against Catholics? Yes it was. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 3:51:31 GMT
I have always felt Julia's natural place was the morgue. She can't go back there but she could set up a private forensic lab, let's call it CSI Toronto, to analyse the evidence collected at crime scenes. There would then be a reason for her to visit William or vise versa instead of her randomly turning up. I want to see William getting all schmoopy over Julia doing chemistry for him again. It would be funny if the lab name was a CSI rip off. Yes! George would call it The Investigative Laboratory for Criminal Activity or some such thing. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 25, 2014 4:06:26 GMT
I want to see William getting all schmoopy over Julia doing chemistry for him again. It would be funny if the lab name was a CSI rip off. Yes! George would call it The Investigative Laboratory for Criminal Activity or some such thing. Aaaaaaaaaaaa, the more I think about it, the more I think this is a great idea, and I wonder why MM didn't do this 3 years ago. Yes, George would have a hilarious name of it. And I'm thinking he could pick up some extra money by working off hours as a "private eye" or some other sort of consultant for the lab. The main reason I like this, though, is the CSI lab could both aid the Constabulary and maintain some competitive tension with it if it does "secret" work for the government or if it works for a competing agency, the constabulary from another Provence, the Americans, the Pinkertons, etc. Or what if the lab accepts work from some shady characters for the sake of money!!! All sorts of new stories could be generated from that direction. And again, it gives a place for William's career to grow - as a forensics lecturer in association with the CSI lab parlaying Julia's academic cred - while he has nowhere to go in the Constabulary. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 25, 2014 5:06:46 GMT
But then, who would he feel superior to? Wasn't it CC Stockton who was so prejudiced against Catholics? Yes it was but William has commented on CC Giles view of Catholics in Crime and Punishment when he told Insp. B to tell him he was at confession as he thought that's all Catholics do (paraphrased). I believe CC Giles has made it quite clear that Toronto is a Protestant city in the past too. |
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So if there are any writers making noises about "ending on a high note" already, that writer is a talentless wuss and a blame-shifty weasel. Start the NEXT SEASON on a high note by hiring a writer with some fresh ideas. 
