|
|
Post by Hodge on Nov 2, 2016 14:10:48 GMT
Actually Murdoch nursed a hot dog, it never reached his mouth. However he did seem to eat some of the food in the hotel restaurant. So we do have proof (from several episodes in the hotel) that he does actually eat sometimes. Perhaps he likes the hotel food.... Maybe they try to limit eating because keeping food around is a pain, and two...they don't want it to get on the wardrobe? I saw something once about food on set and it's something to do with the number of takes and keeping the food fresh and looking good especially if the actors actually have to eat it. In other words it is a pain. There's also getting it on the wardrobe. |
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Nov 2, 2016 14:22:49 GMT
I liked the William and Julia scenes we got in this episode, and how angry or annoyed William became when Watts and Shanley insulted Julia. I thought it was cute. I don't need W/J to have angst to enjoy them and I don't think they've lost their love story. They've already had some angst in 10x01 and 10x02, not to mention in the recent S9 finale. They even both saved each others lives, again. Sure, we could do with some kisses being included, but cute couple moments are also nice to watch. I'm fine with them being a happy crime solving couple in episodes, in between their personal crisis that inevitably pop up. The show couldn't keep them on the romance merry-go-round of S1-7, it would've turned off viewers if they'd dragged it out any longer. And it's not like in S8 were they really were put on the back-burner, and it felt wrong and dull. This is more like S9, and I liked their relationship then. They get plenty of scenes together, so other than wanting some new kisses, I'm happy enough with them as they are now. They're bound to have more drama thrown at them as the season goes on, and we should get some cute laughs with their house building. I'm not saying I want angst all the time, I just preferred when they were apart and making googly eyes at each other than married and no romance at all, i.e. S8. I actually love when they work together but a little bit of romance interspersed with that never goes amiss. They seem to have settled down into the proverbial "comfortably married couple" with few signs of affection. |
|
|
|
Post by murdochic on Nov 2, 2016 16:11:00 GMT
I liked the William and Julia scenes we got in this episode, and how angry or annoyed William became when Watts and Shanley insulted Julia. I thought it was cute. I don't need W/J to have angst to enjoy them and I don't think they've lost their love story. They've already had some angst in 10x01 and 10x02, not to mention in the recent S9 finale. They even both saved each others lives, again. Sure, we could do with some kisses being included, but cute couple moments are also nice to watch. I'm fine with them being a happy crime solving couple in episodes, in between their personal crisis that inevitably pop up. The show couldn't keep them on the romance merry-go-round of S1-7, it would've turned off viewers if they'd dragged it out any longer. And it's not like in S8 were they really were put on the back-burner, and it felt wrong and dull. This is more like S9, and I liked their relationship then. They get plenty of scenes together, so other than wanting some new kisses, I'm happy enough with them as they are now. They're bound to have more drama thrown at them as the season goes on, and we should get some cute laughs with their house building. I'm not saying I want angst all the time, I just preferred when they were apart and making googly eyes at each other than married and no romance at all, i.e. S8. I actually love when they work together but a little bit of romance interspersed with that never goes amiss. They seem to have settled down into the proverbial "comfortably married couple" with few signs of affection. In fairness, we have gotten cute scenes with them, even if more are always welcome. William being the protective husband was a sign of passionate affection, because he almost punched Shanley. William rarely loses control, unless it's Julia related. They've also had some teasing, cuddles, cuddled up walking, supportive talks, and William running through fire to save his wife. That is all visible affection. It's more than we were getting for a lot of S8, after their honeymoon ep. It's only 4 episodes into S10, so it's too soon to be saying they've lost their spark. I love them as much as always, and I don't dislike them being a happily married couple. If we get to the end of year break without kisses and passionate displays then I'll be unsatisfied. But right now, I don't have any real complaints about them. Though I would like to see a bit more on their house build. They're dawdling on that. |
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Nov 2, 2016 17:48:23 GMT
I'm not saying I want angst all the time, I just preferred when they were apart and making googly eyes at each other than married and no romance at all, i.e. S8. I actually love when they work together but a little bit of romance interspersed with that never goes amiss. They seem to have settled down into the proverbial "comfortably married couple" with few signs of affection. In fairness, we have gotten cute scenes with them, even if more are always welcome. William being the protective husband was a sign of passionate affection, because he almost punched Shanley. William rarely loses control, unless it's Julia related. They've also had some teasing, cuddles, cuddled up walking, supportive talks, and William running through fire to save his wife. That is all visible affection. It's more than we were getting for a lot of S8, after their honeymoon ep. It's only 4 episodes into S10, so it's too soon to be saying they've lost their spark. I love them as much as always, and I don't dislike them being a happily married couple. If we get to the end of year break without kisses and passionate displays then I'll be unsatisfied. But right now, I don't have any real complaints about them. Though I would like to see a bit more on their house build. They're dawdling on that. Agreed it is only 4 eps in and we have had some scenes, I was hoping for more but PM does like to torture us. As for the house I suspect we will be seeing more and I have a feeling, from what I've read, things will not be going smoothly. More opportunities for humour I suspect. |
|
|
|
Post by shangas on Nov 2, 2016 23:14:39 GMT
On the subject of food - I loved that little brass hotdog stand!! It's so cute! Here's another one: Antique brass food-warmer...  It would've been filled with either charcoal, or boiling water, to keep the food hot. In our case - hotdogs!! |
|
|
|
Post by lizmc on Nov 3, 2016 1:15:27 GMT
On the subject of food - I loved that little brass hotdog stand!! It's so cute! Here's another one: Antique brass food-warmer... It would've been filled with either charcoal, or boiling water, to keep the food hot. In our case - hotdogs!! That's cute.......if I'm not mistaken, they also had a small brass ice box for the condiments......
|
|
|
|
Post by Terence's Top Hat on Nov 3, 2016 17:08:03 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode, from the female reporter to the Columbo-like detective from station house one. I'm awful with names. Part of me hoped Julia and William would have been wrong and the other detective would have had to solve it for them. It would have been interesting to see their reactions and how they'd feel after the fact. As William put it, "We are fallible."
All in all a good mystery. I hope the bumbling detective ends up the new superintendent so he has a recurring role.
|
|
|
|
Post by shangas on Nov 4, 2016 7:12:26 GMT
I would like to see more appearances from side characters as well. Especially Inspector Slorach. he's freakin' hilarious!! I love him!!  |
|
|
|
Post by lea on Nov 4, 2016 22:35:03 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode, from the female reporter to the Columbo-like detective from station house one. I'm awful with names. Part of me hoped Julia and William would have been wrong and the other detective would have had to solve it for them. It would have been interesting to see their reactions and how they'd feel after the fact. As William put it, "We are fallible." All in all a good mystery. I hope the bumbling detective ends up the new superintendent so he has a recurring role. I agree! Being incorrect would have provided some nice character growth for the pair of them. |
|
|
|
Post by murdochic on Nov 5, 2016 13:38:11 GMT
I really enjoyed this episode, from the female reporter to the Columbo-like detective from station house one. I'm awful with names. Part of me hoped Julia and William would have been wrong and the other detective would have had to solve it for them. It would have been interesting to see their reactions and how they'd feel after the fact. As William put it, "We are fallible." All in all a good mystery. I hope the bumbling detective ends up the new superintendent so he has a recurring role. I agree! Being incorrect would have provided some nice character growth for the pair of them. No it wouldn't. It would have meant them doubting their abilities and other criminals claiming the forensics and investigations were wrong. They are too good at their jobs to make such a big error. Julia wouldn't be that careless during tests. They did the right thing by reexamining the evidence and confirming their original findings. William and Julia are two of a small number of Toronto police related staff who are trustworthy and will do their job properly. Most of the other police related characters we meet in MM are incompetent or dodgy. William and Julia are different and that works well for their characters and the stories. We already saw Julia doubting herself and feeling guilt over justifiably killing Eva, so we got character growth from that. Just like when William let the prisoner go in the finale of S4. |
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Nov 5, 2016 15:22:08 GMT
I agree! Being incorrect would have provided some nice character growth for the pair of them. No it wouldn't. It would have meant them doubting their abilities and other criminals claiming the forensics and investigations were wrong. They are too good at their jobs to make such a big error. Julia wouldn't be that careless during tests. They did the right thing by reexamining the evidence and confirming their original findings. William and Julia are two of a small number of Toronto police related staff who are trustworthy and will do their job properly. Most of the other police related characters we meet in MM are incompetent or dodgy. William and Julia are different and that works well for their characters and the stories. We already saw Julia doubting herself and feeling guilt over justifiably killing Eva, so we got character growth from that. Just like when William let the prisoner go in the finale of S4. I agree with you on this one Murdochic. Character growth that results from learning something about oneself, as in the examples you gave, is essential. Getting the evidence wrong is another thing entirely. Murdoch and Ogden are meticulous and always have been. It's true that Murdoch can set his sights on the wrong person early on but he always shifts his perspective based on the evidence, even when he has trouble making the connections he needs for a solid case...that is what his intrepid posse is for.  IMO, this episode highlights just how big a role technology plays in modern policing and the importance of its evolution. Our judicial system does allow for evidence to be re-examined using newer techniques as they evolve. However, newer techniques can't make a guilty person innocent of their crime. The biggest contrast to this episode that keeps popping into my head is how meticulously James Gillies fabricated evidence against Julia in Crime and Punishment. The deception was so complete that even William couldn't resolve the discrepancy between what he knew in his heart and what the evidence said until Gillies himself made an appearance. |
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Nov 5, 2016 15:30:28 GMT
Since we are on the topic of character development, I am interested to know which episodes you think are pivotal to the growth of the main characters.
My picks:
William - Murdoch in Wonderland...letting Constance Gardiner go free
Julia - Glory Days...accepting William's faith as an integral part of his character and being willing to marry in the Church
Brackenreid - On the Waterfront Part 2...tackling the corrupt status quo on the docks after losing himself to PTSD
Crabtree - The Artful Detective...taking the rap for Archie Brook's death believing it was Edna who had done it
This is actually a question I have been wanting to ask the cast and writers for a long time. Should have done it at the Unlocking MM event.
|
|
|
|
Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 6, 2016 10:18:01 GMT
Since we are on the topic of character development, I am interested to know which episodes you think are pivotal to the growth of the main characters.
My picks:
William - Murdoch in Wonderland...letting Constance Gardiner go free
Julia - Glory Days...accepting William's faith as an integral part of his character and being willing to marry in the Church
Brackenreid - On the Waterfront Part 2...tackling the corrupt status quo on the docks after losing himself to PTSD
Crabtree - The Artful Detective...taking the rap for Archie Brook's death believing it was Edna who had done it
This is actually a question I have been wanting to ask the cast and writers for a long time. Should have done it at the Unlocking MM event. As of right now, I think that I'm inclined to agree with you as far as a single episode goes. William learns that justice and law are not the same in MiW, and Julia learns that to remove the Catholicism from William is to remove a major reason why she loves him and how that makes him the person that he is. Brax is interesting to me because while I agree with you that OtW2 is a pivotal episode for him, he's probably done more subtle evolving over the course of the series than any of the other characters. There is a distinct difference from season 1 to season 2 and so on. I think one might argue that he's done the most growth out of any of the characters. As for George, our boy grew up when he was with Edna,and isn't quite as prone to the flights of fancy anymore. I wonder if this isn't the reason a lot of people wanted him to get back with Emily- aka when he was more childlike. |
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Nov 6, 2016 14:27:56 GMT
Since we are on the topic of character development, I am interested to know which episodes you think are pivotal to the growth of the main characters.
My picks:
William - Murdoch in Wonderland...letting Constance Gardiner go free
Julia - Glory Days...accepting William's faith as an integral part of his character and being willing to marry in the Church
Brackenreid - On the Waterfront Part 2...tackling the corrupt status quo on the docks after losing himself to PTSD
Crabtree - The Artful Detective...taking the rap for Archie Brook's death believing it was Edna who had done it
This is actually a question I have been wanting to ask the cast and writers for a long time. Should have done it at the Unlocking MM event. As of right now, I think that I'm inclined to agree with you as far as a single episode goes. William learns that justice and law are not the same in MiW, and Julia learns that to remove the Catholicism from William is to remove a major reason why she loves him and how that makes him the person that he is. Brax is interesting to me because while I agree with you that OtW2 is a pivotal episode for him, he's probably done more subtle evolving over the course of the series than any of the other characters. There is a distinct difference from season 1 to season 2 and so on. I think one might argue that he's done the most growth out of any of the characters. As for George, our boy grew up when he was with Edna,and isn't quite as prone to the flights of fancy anymore. I wonder if this isn't the reason a lot of people wanted him to get back with Emily- aka when he was more childlike. I agree that if we're taking single episodes then these three are probably the most pivotal. I think Till Death Do Us Part is the first sign that William can change, he starts out seeing homosexuals as nothing more than perverts but by the end sees them as potentially decent people. Also in this ep he realizes that not everything is as black and white as his faith sees it and decides he can't follow blindly any more. It's a very subtle change and not obviously a watershed but it opens him up to seeing things differently in general and creates the potential for more character growth. As for Brackenreid he has changed into a different person from S1 to S10. I can't say I liked him that much in S1 he was the typical cop that assumed guilt because of bigotry, this was probably because of the culture in the constabulary at the time. He obviously got over some of that working with William, he had to accept someone of a "lesser" faith to even have him in his station house to begin with. I really like how Brax has grown over the seasons and he's turned into a much more interesting character. Not sure I can name just one ep that happened in more than others. George, to be honest he's my least favourite of the three men (love Jonny Harris' portrayal though) and solely because of his "out there" thinking, it's too over the top for me. I know we're supposed to love him but I can't, I want him back with Edna because he showed us he can be a man with her. I like all of S8 as far as George is concerned as he finally grew up but as lovemondays said, The Artful Detective was the most pivotal. |
|
|
|
Post by lizmc on Nov 6, 2016 17:26:25 GMT
|
|
