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Post by lizmc on Feb 27, 2018 6:51:18 GMT
From the CBC: Murdoch and Ogden must put aside dealing with a personal matter when Nate Desmond is charged with murder.
(Could Miss James be back? Her boyfriend Nate seems to have suffered Murdoch Ogden Proximity Syndrome.....wonder if he had dinner with them.....) |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 7, 2018 3:37:06 GMT
From the CBC: Murdoch and Ogden must put aside dealing with a personal matter when Nate Desmond is charged with murder.
(Could Miss James be back? Her boyfriend Nate seems to have suffered Murdoch Ogden Proximity Syndrome.....wonder if he had dinner with them.....) Well they wouldn't be the first - and certainly not the last! They could have been in town off screen and they had dinner and then they wen't back to wherever they are living ( I forget right now) and then the ahem incident happened |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 8, 2018 15:17:40 GMT
www.tv-eh.com/2018/03/08/preview-shadows-are-falling-on-murdoch-mysteries/At least there's a bit a of a heads up about the "shocking final minutes of the episode" so I don't think everything's going to be hunky dory before the episode finishes - though I would like them to spill a bit more before monday - what is this personal matter? AND THOSE LAST FEW SHOCKING MINUTES BETTER NOT BE A MISCARRIAGE.
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 11, 2018 9:01:32 GMT
Oh dear what could it be? maybe they are going to split up. Julia has been giving William a terrible time with her mood swings. I doubt it is a miscariage as that will be toooooo said....can't wiat to find out....
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 13, 2018 2:08:29 GMT
Well that was a powerful episode. Should have known ther was too much love and happiness being spread around station house no. 4. The writers are clever really.Julia and William have been too happy for too long. This season had more w/j moments than most other seasons. Should have smelled a rat......keeping them apart and playing with theirs and our emotions are something these writers are expert at. I will not stop watching but will look forward to what ever they throw at us next season MM never fails to deliver the surprises. So happy for season 12
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Post by lizmc on Mar 13, 2018 3:21:28 GMT
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Post by murdochic on Mar 13, 2018 5:25:01 GMT
William had better make a groveling apology to Julia in the finale. It's not her fault they lost the baby or that Rebecca performed an abortion. W/J need to get through their grief together and not let it break them apart. It's so unfair that they've lost a 2nd child, but it was always a real possibility. They shouldn't have to also lose each other when they've already suffered.
Violet needs to back off. She isn't qualified to do Julia's job, and it's not even realistic that she could be anywhere near to being a doctor in less than a year. Julia is the coroner and she'll now need her work more than ever.
I hope George is finally realising he and Nina are not compatible. She doesn't want marriage or children, and she shouldn't have to force herself to want those things just to keep George. They need to go their separate ways in the finale.
It was nice to see Rebecca again, but I wish it hadn't been under such sad circumstances. I assume William won't be charging her over the abortion. She did the right thing for her abused patient.
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Post by coolbyrne on Mar 13, 2018 10:01:26 GMT
I will be the first to admit I didn't think the writers would go the miscarriage route. I haven't yet seen the episode (but I was spoiled by Helene Joy's FB post), so I can't comment on how it played out, but I am curious as to how the fallout will play out. They've just been extended for season 12, so where is this story line going? I will also say, I wish they had let the pregnancy story unfold a bit slower; in hindsight, it seemed very rushed. That being said, let's see what you've got, writers.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 13, 2018 11:45:14 GMT
Sooooo....that was quite an episode. Thankfully I had some friends feeding me spoilers while I was at work. Thanks, peeps. You know who you are. As soon as I saw that Nate Desmond was accused of murder, I wondered if this would be a case William couldn't solve, or maybe that there would be a twist and that Nate had done it, as there have been a lot of "our peeps" getting accused of murder and W getting them off. This would certainly be a change. Well, it was certainly a departure from the norm to which we have become accustomed. Nate was eventually exonerated, but all was not hunky dory. I knew there would be a twist, but I did not see the one that we got coming. Yes, he was exonerated, but at one hell of a price. The scene that really stuck with me was him talking about how everyone got what they deserved. Had he already figured out that an abortion was involved as was Julia? He was already quite angry by then... I agree with Murdochic that William was an ass, but he was also hurting. As much of an ass he was to Julia, he took his anger out on the wrong person. On the one hand, that blowup was brutal and ill-timed, but it's also been a long time coming, as I've bet they never discussed it. Still, my heart broke for Julia when she went to William for comfort and he stepped back. Ouch, honey. I'm so sorry. She's hurting and she's been abandoned by the man she loves. A double loss for her. Looking towards and nervous about next week. I saw a note on FB from PM that said the title was inspired by the Tom Petty song "Free Fallin" where you're with someone who is a great person and seemingly perfect, but not perfect for you. I suspect that means George and Nina-two great people who want different things. George made it clear that he wanted a family, I'm pretty sure that Nina does not. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 13, 2018 12:01:15 GMT
I will be the first to admit I didn't think the writers would go the miscarriage route. I haven't yet seen the episode (but I was spoiled by Helene Joy's FB post), so I can't comment on how it played out, but I am curious as to how the fallout will play out. They've just been extended for season 12, so where is this story line going? I will also say, I wish they had let the pregnancy story unfold a bit slower; in hindsight, it seemed very rushed. That being said, let's see what you've got, writers. As soon as I discovered she was pregnant, I was waiting for the miscarriage. But as the pregnancy went on, I started to think like you, that it seemed too obvious. But, the show went there, and also broke W and J in the process. I think they'll eventually be fixed, but not for a while-at least not fully. I too thought the story went a bit fast...I was expecting them to try for a baby a bit longer than they did, but I now see that they were working towards ending the season with a broken W/J. I'm curious to see where they'll go next as well. |
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Post by molly on Mar 13, 2018 20:10:44 GMT
I thought this was done really well. They've been too happy for too long and need some angst to stay interesting. I also love how he continues to struggle with his religious beliefs. But the season finale is already here? Noooo!
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 14, 2018 3:38:15 GMT
William had better make a groveling apology to Julia in the finale. It's not her fault they lost the baby or that Rebecca performed an abortion. W/J need to get through their grief together and not let it break them apart. It's so unfair that they've lost a 2nd child, but it was always a real possibility. They shouldn't have to also lose each other when they've already suffered. I agree. He really cut low in that final argument, and Julia was totally right to ask him to leave. His remarks were uncalled for. Hopefully he comes to his senses soon and the season isn't left on a W/J cliffhanger. I totally get why he was upset though; just the combination of the miscarriage on top of everyone lying to him (which irritates him on a good day) and the case just not fitting (which needles at him on a good day) , AND the case being about an abortion was just too much for him to handle emotionally and somehow in his grief they all got muddled in his head. Neither of these two science dorks handle emotions well and this episode really highlighted that. Both of them throwing themselves (poorly) into their work. Murdoch + Emotions (especially ones concerning Julia) = NOT GOOD. At least Brackenreid noticed and didn't let Murdoch do anything alone. (Poor Crabtree!) I'm agreeing with you again here. I'm personally not wild about her as a character - but then again her characterization this season has been kind of overshadowed by the pregnancy. I think that's my issue with her. I don't feel like I know her yet and I feel like I'm missing something. Personally, I like George with Nina. But if he want's a marriage/family she's not the woman to do it with. She has made it very clear that she doesn't want that sort of life. Which is great for her - but if it's not what he wants then he shouldn't make her/try to change her to be that way. He needs to let her go; and find someone who does want those things. Agreeing with you again here. I would have loved to see her wedding maybe a murder at her wedding? That would have been a more ahem cheerful? way to see her again before this sad ep. I don't think he will be as technically it happened not in his jurisdiction. I don't remember exactly but I don't think he did he charge the abortion doctor in Shades of Grey? It's been a while. |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 14, 2018 3:52:54 GMT
Sooooo....that was quite an episode. Thankfully I had some friends feeding me spoilers while I was at work. Thanks, peeps. You know who you are. As soon as I saw that Nate Desmond was accused of murder, I wondered if this would be a case William couldn't solve, or maybe that there would be a twist and that Nate had done it, as there have been a lot of "our peeps" getting accused of murder and W getting them off. This would certainly be a change. Well, it was certainly a departure from the norm to which we have become accustomed. Nate was eventually exonerated, but all was not hunky dory. I knew there would be a twist, but I did not see the one that we got coming. Yes, he was exonerated, but at one hell of a price. The scene that really stuck with me was him talking about how everyone got what they deserved. Had he already figured out that an abortion was involved as was Julia? He was already quite angry by then... I agree with Murdochic that William was an ass, but he was also hurting. As much of an ass he was to Julia, he took his anger out on the wrong person. On the one hand, that blowup was brutal and ill-timed, but it's also been a long time coming, as I've bet they never discussed it. Still, my heart broke for Julia when she went to William for comfort and he stepped back. Ouch, honey. I'm so sorry. She's hurting and she's been abandoned by the man she loves. A double loss for her. Looking towards and nervous about next week. I saw a note on FB from PM that said the title was inspired by the Tom Petty song "Free Fallin" where you're with someone who is a great person and seemingly perfect, but not perfect for you. I suspect that means George and Nina-two great people who want different things. George made it clear that he wanted a family, I'm pretty sure that Nina does not. Didn't know about that note about next weeks ep. It does certainly sound like it's a reference to George/Nina - but I wouldn't put it past the writers & PM to have it sort of reference W/J as well. As in free falling spiral they seem to be in after their argument - not in relation to the song. I do hope that the angst doesn't draw out two long. In my opinion these two have had enough angst. Or to put it another way I've had enough angst with these two. I will forever be scarred by the S3 finale. Personally I'd like things to be okay (not great but okay and by okay I mean talking terms and yes Murdoch that means APOLOGIZING) by the end of the season. These two science and logic dorks don't handle extreme emotions well - as this episode showed. Murdoch has been struggling communicating with a hormonal Julia throughout this season and Julia in turn has been struggling with the hormonal/emotional changes within her as well. And the miscarriage on top of a case around an abortion did not help things. They both tried (unsuccessfully) to throw themselves into their work - their go to for dealing with emotions, and because of the nature of the case it just hit too close to home. All I can say at least Brackenreid and Crabtree knew about the pregnancy & got to the morgue when they did. At lest they could be there for W/J. And Brackenreid could see how much of a mess Murdoch was in and made sure Murdoch wasn't alone (poor Crabtree) |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 15, 2018 9:57:08 GMT
No they don't. Which is usually part of their charm. But not this time. |
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Mar 15, 2018 22:03:44 GMT
Wow, what an episode. I loved having Nate and Rebecca back. I really missed them. They're such a great couple. How it all unfolded left me going, "Whoa!" because I never saw any of it coming. I kept wondering why the lady would not tell Murdoch the truth about what Nate was doing and why. I wonder how Rebecca felt about it all? I know her and Nate were quite active in their church. Argh, I wish she would have stayed! LOL.
As for Violet, I'm wondering if during the last episode when she offered Julia that "clear-looking" drink to help Julia's queasiness, if it had something in it to make Julia sick and miscarry. Violet was selling all of these remedies and stuff when Julia first met Violet. It makes me go hmmm.
As for Julia and Murdoch, I know they'll work it out. Both were stressed (rightfully so) and in agony. When one is feeling that emotional, of course regretful words will be thrown about. I hope they reach an understanding. They are both mature, intelligent individuals and I know they'll find a way to make their marriage work. My heart went out to them when Julia began miscarrying. I feel so bad for her and William.
I must say this episode have me pinned to my seat, gaping at the TV screen LOL.
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