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Post by Lucy on Feb 7, 2011 18:26:32 GMT
 Murdoch makes an unexpected discovery when examining a dolls house at a fair. In this house there is a man holding a gun. He believes that this model is depicting a crime scene. He finds the artist – Lydia – an autistic 19-year-old girl who communicates through creating models. Murdoch discovers that there has been a murder but what happened and why did nobody report it? |
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Post by camilla on Mar 22, 2011 22:18:23 GMT
Please someone say to me that there's something more William and Julia together..
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Post by Lucy on Mar 22, 2011 22:21:17 GMT
Another great episode!! I love Crabtree! The scale model was amazing and the scene where they actually put Murdoch in the model was also amazing!!
Darcy was back this week, I'm beginning to think he might suspect something, or at least he should do.
Everyone will love the scene where Murdoch and Julia are talking about Lydia. Julia explains that Lydia can't communicate like they can with eye contact. Then they looked each other in the eyes!!... Why do they do this to us?!
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Post by camilla on Mar 22, 2011 22:22:59 GMT
Thank you Lucy for the review!!  ) |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 22, 2011 22:46:53 GMT
Are you going to be able to upload it to You Tube, camilla?
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Post by camilla on Mar 22, 2011 22:57:47 GMT
Of course but I can't find the episode before tomorrow morning unfortunately..  |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 22, 2011 23:04:27 GMT
Ah, that's cool! I'll see it tonight my time, then. Should only be a few more hours.
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Post by camilla on Mar 22, 2011 23:08:19 GMT
I'm sorry you must wait guys but it's impossible find the episode before..hope to have time to upload it in the afternoon..
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Post by hannikan on Mar 23, 2011 1:11:36 GMT
I'll come back in a couple of hours with my thoughts  |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 23, 2011 2:44:59 GMT
This was a really fun episode! I loved seeing more of George and William together, too. I'm going to have to watch it again for good quotes. The model was so cool. I wish I could make one like that. The Alibi guide was again wrong, this time about a character's age. Lydia was at least 26, not 19, based on what her brother said. The actress is actually 41 (probably 40 when it was filmed)  I recognized her from the Emily of New Moon TV series. Okay Crabtree talking about the how it was suspicious for Mr. Caruso to have a peach tree because it wouldn't grow well in their climate was funny. The best was him saying "Ooh sir, I don't believe imbecile in use nowadays. People find it demeaning. I believe the correct term is moron." |
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Post by flip18 on Mar 23, 2011 7:21:14 GMT
Enjoyed this one more than last week's. All the viewpoints from inside of the model shots were very cool, especially 'Giant' George  Sad that even the medical term for autism was derogatory back then 'idiot savant'. Agree with Lucy about that scene in the morgue: "You and I communicate with eye contact but Lydia can't do that". Nice cue for awkward glances all round  Also really like the other scene in the morgue: Murdoch [describing Lydia]: "She's a mysterious combination of emotional unawareness and acute intellect" Julia: "That's a good description of someone I know" Hannikan, it was great to see the old team back in action again wasn't it, I've missed that a bit. Thanks for the info about the actress playing Lydia, did think she looked a 'little' older than the character was supposed to be but she was excellent in the part. Favourite line was by one of the residents of the street, her name escapes me, commenting on how Mr Caruso wooed his new wife: "They say he won her over with his peaches" |
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Post by akarana on Mar 23, 2011 9:44:19 GMT
Just watched the episode and I have to say I really liked it.
I think the actress who played Lydia did a great job. Last time I was as impressed by an actress was in the episode with the schizophrenic girl. She was awesome!
Although Murdoch was right in the end I think it was a bit far fetched to assume a murder just because someone is standing in a window with a riffle. He could have cleaned it for all Murdoch knew.
Also it took Murdoch incredibly long to get idea and check who exactly the figures are. Wasn't that the most obvious thing?
George made me laugh several times during the episode. First, like someone already mentioned, when he corrected Brachenreid (have to look up how to spell his name) and then in the end when he offered his inside into the psyche of a pet owner. Hilarious!
Darcy must be either completely oblivious or he doesn't want to see it, but I think even today a man would get suspicious. It's not only the looks that pass between Julia and William, it's everything. The initial joy when they see each other, William's disappointed reaction whenever he realizes Julia's not alone, the way they seem to stand a little too close together and then when they start talking and completely shut him out. This time they didn't even react when he asked what they were talking about, not even Julia.
The episode made me wonder though exactly how happy or unhappy Julia was while she was still with William.
Her comments really made me wonder. First she said (copying this from flip):
Murdoch [describing Lydia]: "She's a mysterious combination of emotional unawareness and acute intellect"
Julia: "That's a good description of someone I know"
And later they had a talk that went in a similar direction.
Murdoch: I suppose she lives in a world of her own
Julia: Such a lonely place
M: Why do you say that?
J: Because she can't communicate her feelings
M: You believe that makes her unhappy?
J: Well, it would make me unhappy
M:[...] I think there's a solace and certainty in order that sustains her
J: And that's enough?
M: Sometimes it has to be
These talks make me wonder if it wasn't so much her fear to make him unhappy by being sterile that made her leave, but his inability to show affection. I always wondered why she considered leaving in the first place and what was missing in her life. Hearing that I believe she didn't doubt that William loved her, but she couldn't be happy with the way he communicated it. She didn't feel it, so to say.
Not communicating her feelings makes her unhappy and I think we all knew the haunted looks and awkward moments in season 3 when they should have talked but didn't. Mostly because William was called away or had an idea or was distracted.... the list goes on.
That brings me back to my point that Julia is with Darcy not because she loves him, but because she really really likes him and thinks that the man she really loves doesn't love her the same way, or at least isn't able to show it. And that's something she can't live with.
From what we've seen Darcy is very affectionate towards her and that might have been what she missed with William. She wants William, but can't be happy with him. So she is with Darcy, who is not exactly who she wants, but makes her happy in a way that William seems unable to.
The whole scene makes me wonder however what it was exactly that she wanted to hear from him. Does she really want him to confess his love now and ruin her engagement? Does she want proof that he loved her?
If she would only know about the engagement ring I think it would change everything...
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Post by camilla on Mar 23, 2011 10:36:41 GMT
Seen the episode..Nice one!finally some scenes between William and Julia!
Agree totally with Akarana(we have the same ideas)..for sure Julia loves William and want marry Darcy because he is the right man,not the one she loves.of course maybe she likes him but is obvious she loves William and if only he does something,say something for her,something important,she leave Darcy for him soon!
The problem is William continue to love her a lot but never say his feeling to her and Julia is tired to wait.
I continue to think something happen between them only in the last episode of the season,when William will realize he's losing Julia forever..
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Post by kaybee on Mar 23, 2011 16:11:15 GMT
First, thanks Camilla for uploading the episode so quickly! Reading the remarks about the episode had me waiting with bated breath, so thankfully it was a short wait!
I have to agree with much of what has already been said, but I think we're actually being led in the direction of a reconciliation between William and Julia. Obviously she understands how completely unaware he is emotionally, and I think she may come to realize he has given up on winning her from his remark that a sense of order, etc., has to be enough. I get the feeling that if they are going to get back together, one of two things will have to happen: either Darcy breaks it off with Julia because he realizes she will never love him the way she loves William, or else Julia herself will have to say something to William. (Which may be the lost letter...I can't believe it would be in an episode description if it's not going to show up at some point).
Darcy is starting to wonder about the two of them, I think, so perhaps things will happen sooner than the last episode, but I'm afraid that it will take as long as it can, given the history. The irony is that back in season 2, Julia admitted to being someone who lives inside her head, but now seems to reject that concept.
I loved the workings between William and George - they were much more back to normal. At this rate, George has to be thrilled that Julia's back in town!
Did anyone else wonder about them dealing with an "idiot savant" for the second time in the series? and why there had to be such explanation when William himself had known the concept back in season 1? (the initial episode with his father)
By the way - this goes back to episode 5, but it occurs to me now...was anyone else surprised that Julia doesn't know French? Coming from a background of wealth, I would have expected her to have been taught French as a girl. It would be interesting if she had been able to understand the remark that Inspector Guillaume made.
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Post by hannikan on Mar 23, 2011 18:47:06 GMT
First, thanks Camilla for uploading the episode so quickly! Reading the remarks about the episode had me waiting with bated breath, so thankfully it was a short wait! I have to agree with much of what has already been said, but I think we're actually being led in the direction of a reconciliation between William and Julia. Obviously she understands how completely unaware he is emotionally, and I think she may come to realize he has given up on winning her from his remark that a sense of order, etc., has to be enough. I get the feeling that if they are going to get back together, one of two things will have to happen: either Darcy breaks it off with Julia because he realizes she will never love him the way she loves William, or else Julia herself will have to say something to William. (Which may be the lost letter...I can't believe it would be in an episode description if it's not going to show up at some point). I agree that the letter will show up at some point. I'm guessing in the finale or maybe the second to last episode. I agree with you about what will have to happen. If William finds the letter he may go fight for her though. That seems to be what Julia wants although she's the one who ran off without telling him when she was leaving! Darcy is starting to wonder about the two of them, I think, so perhaps things will happen sooner than the last episode, but I'm afraid that it will take as long as it can, given the history. The irony is that back in season 2, Julia admitted to being someone who lives inside her head, but now seems to reject that concept. Yes, I agree that it is a bit hypocritical for Julia to criticize William for that when she struggles to express her emotions, too. That's why they are so frustratingly similar. Also Julia is very impatient with William. She drops a bomb on him (her abortion, her being sterile, her leaving Toronto) and expects him to process it within seconds and tell her what she wants to hear. No wonder he is befuddled and can't get out what he wants to say. So to me they are both frustrating. I loved the workings between William and George - they were much more back to normal. At this rate, George has to be thrilled that Julia's back in town! Did anyone else wonder about them dealing with an idiot savant; for the second time in the series? and why there had to be such explanation when William himself had known the concept back in season 1? (the initial episode with his father) Yes, but this autistic woman had a much more severe case than the boy in the earlier episode. William knew a little of the condition but mostly he learned about it through both individuals. It was easier for William to understand the boy but this woman was much harder to reach. The frustration for William was that she was unable to speak. The boy before was very capable of expressing himself, just in a very uncommon way. This woman was almost like a combination of the boy and the girl with multiple personality disorder (in that she went into convulsions without explanation). The other similarity was the compassionate, protective brother. I really liked Bert in this episode. By the way - this goes back to episode 5, but it occurs to me now...was anyone else surprised that Julia doesn't know French? Coming from a background of wealth, I would have expected her to have been taught French as a girl. It would be interesting if she had been able to understand the remark that Inspector Guillaume made. Yeah we discussed this on the Alibi message board and I think she may have chosen to learn German instead. She did spend time in Prague and at the time that would have been helpful in most of E. Europe. She may have known a little French since I'm sure she had traveled there but not enough to keep up with swift conversation between fluent speakers. And for her medical studies she would have needed to know Latin. |
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I recognized her from the Emily of New Moon TV series.
Also really like the other scene in the morgue:
