Post by delirious on Jul 23, 2011 20:58:46 GMT
Well i didn't know you were here to notice my mentioning you.
Macdonald was DEPUTY Premier of Canada in October 1864 so he was not the man in the highest office in the land. He was in the second highest office in the land. That is not just an inference being made but it is actually in the dialogue of the episode. You admit to writing it intentionally. That is a bit of a big mistake.
It is never said in the episode when confederation was but there is an impression that it happened quickly and because of the St Alban's Raid. By saying that the US Civil War was a mitigating factor in confederation you give the impression it might have happened during or very soon after the war. 2 years out of a few hundred is relatively soon. By saying that Macdonald was in the highest office in the land you place him as Premier (26 November 1857 to 2 August 1858) or Prime Minister (1 July 1867- 5 November 1873). If he is premier then the letter was written the better part of a decade before the story is set and the chronology of events goes crazy out of order. If he is prime minister then you imply confederation happened by 22 October 1864 or that the letter was written after 1 July 1867. Again the chronology is ruined. You could argue that being Deputy Premier meant that he was the highest man in the last west of the Ottawa River but as it was all one province at the time the highest man in the land was east of the river and his name was Sir Étienne-Paschal Taché. The gold was from the reserves of the Government of Canada, not Canada West or Upper Canada, so having the man in the highest office of a portion of the province sign the letter was hardly the same as having the man in the highest position over all of the province sign the letter. That letter would need to have been signed by Taché as he was the head of the government of the Province of Canada in October 1864.
When Brackenried says John A Macdonald was the prime minister and Murdoch corrects him to say he was the first prime minister you imply that he signed the letter as the prime minister and thus you move confederation ahead by about 3 years. Dude, you really screwed that up. That is more than fictionalising a Minister of Militia and Defence. If the letter had been from Taché you could have given a micro-lesson in Canadian history beyond the $10 bill.
What you did was akin to implying George Washington was President Of the United States in 1776 when he actually didn't hold that office until 30 April 1789.
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And since you might read this, in the different takes of Crabtree talking about hockey with the desk sergeant i do congratulate you on not creating a fake pro hockey team in Toronto (there were none at the time). But the Ottawa teams Crabtree mentions are different from the scene with the regular guy to the scene when Harper is in it. Ottawa had two pro hockey teams and that you got in both of them i find just brilliant. Was it intentional or was that a Jonny Harris ad lib that by accident actually worked?
I had the wrong John MacDonald in my previous post. John Sandfield MacDonald was the guy who was Premier from 24 May 1862 - 30 May 1864. John Alexander Macdonald was premier 26 November 1857 to 2 August 1858. John Alexander Macdonald thrice served as Deputy Premier of Canada. The dates there are now corrected.
Macdonald was DEPUTY Premier of Canada in October 1864 so he was not the man in the highest office in the land. He was in the second highest office in the land. That is not just an inference being made but it is actually in the dialogue of the episode. You admit to writing it intentionally. That is a bit of a big mistake.
It is never said in the episode when confederation was but there is an impression that it happened quickly and because of the St Alban's Raid. By saying that the US Civil War was a mitigating factor in confederation you give the impression it might have happened during or very soon after the war. 2 years out of a few hundred is relatively soon. By saying that Macdonald was in the highest office in the land you place him as Premier (26 November 1857 to 2 August 1858) or Prime Minister (1 July 1867- 5 November 1873). If he is premier then the letter was written the better part of a decade before the story is set and the chronology of events goes crazy out of order. If he is prime minister then you imply confederation happened by 22 October 1864 or that the letter was written after 1 July 1867. Again the chronology is ruined. You could argue that being Deputy Premier meant that he was the highest man in the last west of the Ottawa River but as it was all one province at the time the highest man in the land was east of the river and his name was Sir Étienne-Paschal Taché. The gold was from the reserves of the Government of Canada, not Canada West or Upper Canada, so having the man in the highest office of a portion of the province sign the letter was hardly the same as having the man in the highest position over all of the province sign the letter. That letter would need to have been signed by Taché as he was the head of the government of the Province of Canada in October 1864.
When Brackenried says John A Macdonald was the prime minister and Murdoch corrects him to say he was the first prime minister you imply that he signed the letter as the prime minister and thus you move confederation ahead by about 3 years. Dude, you really screwed that up. That is more than fictionalising a Minister of Militia and Defence. If the letter had been from Taché you could have given a micro-lesson in Canadian history beyond the $10 bill.
What you did was akin to implying George Washington was President Of the United States in 1776 when he actually didn't hold that office until 30 April 1789.
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And since you might read this, in the different takes of Crabtree talking about hockey with the desk sergeant i do congratulate you on not creating a fake pro hockey team in Toronto (there were none at the time). But the Ottawa teams Crabtree mentions are different from the scene with the regular guy to the scene when Harper is in it. Ottawa had two pro hockey teams and that you got in both of them i find just brilliant. Was it intentional or was that a Jonny Harris ad lib that by accident actually worked?
I had the wrong John MacDonald in my previous post. John Sandfield MacDonald was the guy who was Premier from 24 May 1862 - 30 May 1864. John Alexander Macdonald was premier 26 November 1857 to 2 August 1858. John Alexander Macdonald thrice served as Deputy Premier of Canada. The dates there are now corrected.
