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Post by renaissancegirl on May 4, 2011 21:03:13 GMT
I can't believe the Kissing Bandit was who it was! I was beginning to like him as a character too!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 4, 2011 21:36:41 GMT
i was pretty sure who the kissing bandit was by his second appearance. he was fairly short and and his voice was familiar. also, a lot of people didn't like his character so i figured the writers would try to write him off at some point. i wasn't sure who killed Annabelle, though i had been suspicious of the bank manager fairly early on because it seemed like he was up to something.
anyways, i'm looking forward to some kind of showdown between William and Darcy next week. so hopefully something happens on that front. i don't think they'll duel or anything because that was mostly a European thing and i think it's too late a time period for that. otherwise, we would have had a case like that by now. but i'm also fairly certain there will be a resolution between W/J this season because as others have said they've left it hanging before and would be too repetitive to do again.
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Post by hannikan on May 4, 2011 21:51:43 GMT
Dueling was common in the U.S. but not anymore by the late 19th C. It wouldn't have been common in Canada I wouldn't think anymore either. Plus William (and what we know of Darcy so far) would not use violence, esp not one that could end someone's life. But William did use to box so perhaps a fight isn't out of the realm of possibility. I have a hard time seeing Darcy using his fists though.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 4, 2011 22:11:43 GMT
if William got mad and or desperate enough i could see him punching Darcy, especially if Darcy started it. Darcy said something along the lines of "He would defend Julia in the extreme." so him getting riled up enough to physically fight William could be a possibility. though it probably isn't too likely. it probably will have to be up to Julia in the long run to stop the wedding as others have already said. but i just love the idea of Darcy getting punched or something because i don't like him very much.
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Post by hannikan on May 4, 2011 22:55:09 GMT
if William got mad and or desperate enough i could see him punching Darcy, especially if Darcy started it. Darcy said something along the lines of "He would defend Julia in the extreme." so him getting riled up enough to physically fight William could be a possibility. though it probably isn't too likely. it probably will have to be up to Julia in the long run to stop the wedding as others have already said. but i just love the idea of Darcy getting punched or something because i don't like him very much. Yeah, I think it's possible, too. I really think once William is accused of murder Darcy will forbid Julia seeing him and Julia will refuse that. She will come to William's defense and try to prove his innocence and Darcy's demands to not see William (and perhaps leave TO) will make her leave Darcy.
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Post by renaissancegirl on May 4, 2011 23:22:28 GMT
I suspected Patty to be the Kissing Bandit early on in the episode too, but I was still surprised by it... He may have been annoying at times, but he was a fun character too! Added a bit of comic relief.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 5, 2011 0:15:47 GMT
wait a minute Hannikan, what's this about a framing? was it in a promo or something? does that mean Darcy is going to kill someone and frame William somehow? or is he going to hire someone to kill someone and then frame William? sorry for all the questions.
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Post by hannikan on May 5, 2011 0:26:53 GMT
No, I don't know that anyone is framing him this is just speculation. All we know is that William is accused of it/the evidence points to him.
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Post by kaybee on May 5, 2011 0:31:46 GMT
I just watched the episode, and part of me is disappointed. I really would love to smack William for his determined sense of honor and of believing he dare not speak up to Julia. If he could just once, in some offhand way, note that children are less important to him than marrying the right woman, even to Ruby, Julia might see her way clear to breaking things off with Darcy. Sadly, I don't see her breaking things off this late unless Darcy does something, such as forbidding her to see William, or even asking her not to.
I loved having Ruby back - but I am starting to wonder if we will ever see Julia's father!
The funniest moment of the episode for me was George in disguise (oh, that mustache!) leaning on the lamppost outside the hotel. He didn't have to do anything but stand there, and I broke out in laughter again the second time I watched it!
I really don't see the writers having Julia marry Darcy in the finale - but I don't know how it's going to be broken off, or by whom.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 5, 2011 0:48:37 GMT
oops! i saw the words accused of murder and somehow interpreted as Darcy framing William. i guess that was the only logical conclusion in my mind for some reason, even though it didn't make a lot of sense for Darcy to kill someone. thanks for clearing that up Hannikan! i wonder if someone William knows gets killed and that's why he's initially suspected. i hope it's not Anna!
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Post by hannikan on May 5, 2011 0:56:00 GMT
Yeah, I know it's frustrating but this episode also reminded us how frustrating it is for William that he really thinks she's in love with Darcy, that she has moved on. She's been sending him all these hints (including the ring on the wrong hand thing that I think was trying to tell him she didn't want to marry Darcy after all) but still she's giving him a wedding invitation and trying on a veil and going ahead with the wedding (even if she is behind on planning it). William clearly thinks it's too late to say something. He's thought about it but thinks it would do no good. We know it would, but he doesn't. I laughed when George was pointing the gun accidentally at William and when George said "Higgins!!" and threw his newspaper in the air, too. And Higgins there trying to look inconspicuous pitching hay George really did look silly in the mustache.
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Post by akarana on May 5, 2011 6:48:10 GMT
What made me wonder about the duelling was the "in the extreme" comment. Fight for her, ok every guy would say that, but how far exactly is he willing to go to threaten a police man by saying "fight for her (defend her?) in the extreme". (Don't remember the exact words, but you all know what I mean). Would he hit him? Ruin his reputation? Kidnap Julia?Frame him for murder?... I just can't seem to come up with any non-violent options. Even though Darcy ddoesn't strike me as a brutal guy. However when provoked and pushed into a corner people tend to react "extreme". Also interesting was that he confronted William after he saw him with Julia. He was jealous/shaken enough to just leave (probably because he couldn't face Julia in this state of mind, without accusing her) and all they did in that moment was standing close and talking to each other. I don't know what would happen if he had caught them like in Julia's dream last week I think however that we will get to see part of that extreme next week. And if this season ends in a way that I think it will end, then I need another season asap. And while I agree that the show is a crime drama and that is the important part, I think that the writers and producers of the show are aware of the importance of the William/Julia relationship. I watch a lot of shows and a lot of crime shows, but what the viewers get most passionate about are usually not the cases, but the (potential) couples (for example: NCIS, Bones, Castle, Fringe, House, Crossing Jordan, Judging Amy.... just to name a few where the viewers went crazy (are are still) about the potential couple(s) )
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Post by kaybee on May 5, 2011 13:26:22 GMT
It was interesting that Darcy left without saying anything in the morgue, after watching them just standing and talking. I think seeing how they get wrapped up in conversation is alarming to him, now that he knows they used to have a relationship. And, if Julia wasn't lying to Ruby, and did tell Darcy about her relationship with William, without identifying him by name, he would be even more alarmed if he has any idea how much she loved him.
By the way, was anyone else surprised that Julia had told Ruby why she broke up with William, and in detail? I think I was surprised to even realize that she must have told Ruby about her abortion, and the resulting sterility. Yet still notes that Ruby has a wild streak!
I forgot to mention - someone else did earlier - watching William's reaction to Rupert's question of how would he feel if the woman he loved showed interest in another - I was glad to hear some passion in his frustration!
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Post by lifeisridic on May 5, 2011 16:38:20 GMT
Julia will likely end the wedding, it's the only logical way. She will obviously be more interested in trying to clear William than getting ready for the wedding which will no doubt cause some kind of confrontation with Darcy, and then I think she will break things off. I have a feeling it will be Julia doing most of the work with William next week.
As for the letter, obviously she must write it at the start of the episode and William will find it either just after she breaks it off with Darcy or just before the wedding so he will know why she broke it off. I think everything will go down to the end of the episode and they will reunite then. That way the series doesn't leave us hanging yet again. Because like I said it makes zero sense to that with it not being all about them.
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Post by renaissancegirl on May 5, 2011 17:21:23 GMT
To tell you truthfully, I'm beginning to feel sorry for Julia and think she deserves better--even Darcy! Murdoch is beginning to look pathetic and is turning out to be like another Detective Lamb. Victorian morals or not, Murdoch should have gone after Julia when she first went to Buffalo, rather than wait 6 months later, after being summoned. You would think with all the advice he was given--from that detective in Buffalo, the French inspector etc., he would have said or done something by now. The last episode was painful to see too--just sitting there passively, absorbed in his work, while both Ruby and Brackenreid give him a big hint about 'doing something about it.' Darcy at least moved to be with Julia, and is even willing to fight for her... Clearly, something Murdoch is not willing to do.
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