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Post by Hodge on Nov 20, 2014 22:33:55 GMT
I think it's wonderful you caught it on your own! I didn't catch it all - I marvel at the people who did!  Also that's a great way to get that discussion transported into this thread. This also made me notice that none of the VAST discussion on The Kissing Bandit is here.  I wonder where it is, lol. It took me like 5 watches to spot that and put two and two together. I was probably making gifs at the time too for some other reason and just happened to notice this. Hardly obvious. And not necessarily conclusive of anything...but I like to think it is. I spotted this about the second time I watched it and was thrilled at the continuity. I think it was deliberately done to show that William is lying. Trouble is now he has to stick to his word. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 20, 2014 22:40:09 GMT
It took me like 5 watches to spot that and put two and two together. I was probably making gifs at the time too for some other reason and just happened to notice this. Hardly obvious. And not necessarily conclusive of anything...but I like to think it is. I spotted this about the second time I watched it and was thrilled at the continuity. I think it was deliberately done to show that William is lying. Trouble is now he has to stick to his word. This is why angst is sooooooooooo sweet. Nice little clues to a satisfying pay off.  |
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Post by lea on Aug 2, 2015 2:46:12 GMT
Another ep a day! I quite like this episode! 1. I really like Paddy. We never really gained anything from him but he rubs the Inspector the wrong way and I love it entirely too much. 2. Interesting that her father knew so much about her wedding plans yet he didn't seem to be there! 3. Julia felt so bad when William walked in and saw her messing around with the veil. Not to mention he wasn't forthcoming about what he was up to! When she asked what he needed the walnut oil for he just replied "A project I'm working on..." Eee! 4. Thank goodness for Ruby coming and stirring sh!t between Julia & Darcy. I love Ruby! 5. This episode kinda sucks for William. He walked in on Julia trying on her veil, Ruby was badgering him about Julia, and now Darcy confronts him and lays on the "I'll fight for her". I'm not ready for tomorrow's episode  |
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Post by snacky on Aug 2, 2015 19:49:39 GMT
Another ep a day! I quite like this episode! 2. Interesting that her father knew so much about her wedding plans yet he didn't seem to be there! I never understood Julia's distance/fight with her father, even in the episode about his death where they reconciled. That still needs to be clarified. Also, in early episodes it seems like Julia's father pushed her to participate in high level social circles - we should know something more about his social status since we've only seen him in a cabin by the lake. |
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Post by lea on Aug 2, 2015 21:13:31 GMT
Another ep a day! I quite like this episode! 2. Interesting that her father knew so much about her wedding plans yet he didn't seem to be there! I never understood Julia's distance/fight with her father, even in the episode about his death where they reconciled. That still needs to be clarified. Also, in early episodes it seems like Julia's father pushed her to participate in high level social circles - we should know something more about his social status since we've only seen him in a cabin by the lake. I'd absolutely love to know more about Julia's past/her relationship with her parents. It doesn't seem that he cut her off or anything drastic or tried to stop her from pursuing her career. Ruby is always off doing something crazy and she seemed to be fine with her father.... It's an odd mystery. I also wish we knew when her mother died. |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 3, 2015 14:53:19 GMT
I never understood Julia's distance/fight with her father, even in the episode about his death where they reconciled. That still needs to be clarified. Also, in early episodes it seems like Julia's father pushed her to participate in high level social circles - we should know something more about his social status since we've only seen him in a cabin by the lake. I'd absolutely love to know more about Julia's past/her relationship with her parents. It doesn't seem that he cut her off or anything drastic or tried to stop her from pursuing her career. Ruby is always off doing something crazy and she seemed to be fine with her father.... It's an odd mystery. I also wish we knew when her mother died. I've always found the distance strange. At first I wondered if it was because he didn't want her to become a doctor, a perfectly respectable occupation, but (I assume) he was fine with Ruby being a gallivanting reporter so that doesn't make sense. It has to be something in the way they relate to one another, perhaps they're too much alike and just lock horns. |
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Post by lea on Aug 3, 2015 15:50:43 GMT
I'd absolutely love to know more about Julia's past/her relationship with her parents. It doesn't seem that he cut her off or anything drastic or tried to stop her from pursuing her career. Ruby is always off doing something crazy and she seemed to be fine with her father.... It's an odd mystery. I also wish we knew when her mother died. I've always found the distance strange. At first I wondered if it was because he didn't want her to become a doctor, a perfectly respectable occupation, but (I assume) he was fine with Ruby being a gallivanting reporter so that doesn't make sense. It has to be something in the way they relate to one another, perhaps they're too much alike and just lock horns. He didn't seem like he was a particularly bad parent either so locking horns might be it. Julia is pretty stubborn so I can see her keeping the distance between them over something like that. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 3, 2015 17:52:42 GMT
I'd absolutely love to know more about Julia's past/her relationship with her parents. It doesn't seem that he cut her off or anything drastic or tried to stop her from pursuing her career. Ruby is always off doing something crazy and she seemed to be fine with her father.... It's an odd mystery. I also wish we knew when her mother died. I've always found the distance strange. At first I wondered if it was because he didn't want her to become a doctor, a perfectly respectable occupation, but (I assume) he was fine with Ruby being a gallivanting reporter so that doesn't make sense. It has to be something in the way they relate to one another, perhaps they're too much alike and just lock horns. There was a storyline on Scandal where the "little sister" proved to be someone's daughter. That made me wonder if Ruby were actually young enough to be Julia's daughter, raised as her sister (that would explain a lot of tensions!) - but that would soap-operishly ruin the weight of the whole abortion storyline. Perhaps what Ruby does is okay because she hangs out with upper class people - princes and rajas and the literati of the day. Julia works in a middle class profession and interacts with the sort her father didn't want her hanging out with. There needs to be a flashback episode showing her father to be some quasi-Aristocrat in the center of Canadian society rather than an isolated old man in cabin. |
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Post by lea on Aug 3, 2015 18:40:11 GMT
I've always found the distance strange. At first I wondered if it was because he didn't want her to become a doctor, a perfectly respectable occupation, but (I assume) he was fine with Ruby being a gallivanting reporter so that doesn't make sense. It has to be something in the way they relate to one another, perhaps they're too much alike and just lock horns. Perhaps what Ruby does is okay because she hangs out with upper class people - princes and rajas and the literati of the day. Julia works in a middle class profession and interacts with the sort her father didn't want her hanging out with. There needs to be a flashback episode showing her father to be some quasi-Aristocrat in the center of Canadian society rather than an isolated old man in cabin. Now that would be interesting (however, yes, too soap-y) I always did think Ruby seemed a bit young! But yes no opportunity for that to have happened really. |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 3, 2015 19:07:56 GMT
I've always found the distance strange. At first I wondered if it was because he didn't want her to become a doctor, a perfectly respectable occupation, but (I assume) he was fine with Ruby being a gallivanting reporter so that doesn't make sense. It has to be something in the way they relate to one another, perhaps they're too much alike and just lock horns. There was a storyline on Scandal where the "little sister" proved to be someone's daughter. That made me wonder if Ruby were actually young enough to be Julia's daughter, raised as her sister (that would explain a lot of tensions!) - but that would soap-operishly ruin the weight of the whole abortion storyline. Perhaps what Ruby does is okay because she hangs out with upper class people - princes and rajas and the literati of the day. Julia works in a middle class profession and interacts with the sort her father didn't want her hanging out with. There needs to be a flashback episode showing her father to be some quasi-Aristocrat in the center of Canadian society rather than an isolated old man in cabin. Not sure why you're referencing her father as an old man in a cabin. That was definitely not a cabin, more like a 'lake house', aka cottage. Many cottages are multimillion dollar mansions. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 4, 2015 6:46:30 GMT
There was a storyline on Scandal where the "little sister" proved to be someone's daughter. That made me wonder if Ruby were actually young enough to be Julia's daughter, raised as her sister (that would explain a lot of tensions!) - but that would soap-operishly ruin the weight of the whole abortion storyline. Perhaps what Ruby does is okay because she hangs out with upper class people - princes and rajas and the literati of the day. Julia works in a middle class profession and interacts with the sort her father didn't want her hanging out with. There needs to be a flashback episode showing her father to be some quasi-Aristocrat in the center of Canadian society rather than an isolated old man in cabin. Not sure why you're referencing her father as an old man in a cabin. That was definitely not a cabin, more like a 'lake house', aka cottage. Many cottages are multimillion dollar mansions. Perhaps the Lake House was bigger than a cabin, but it definitely did not strike me as a mansion. None of it helped me understand the power Julia's father held over her life during the earlier part of the series where he seemed to be pressuring her to socialize with the Canadian elite, find a an "aristocratic" husband, and not be a mere police coroner. I definitely expected Julia's family to be something more like the Pendricks. |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 4, 2015 13:05:55 GMT
Not sure why you're referencing her father as an old man in a cabin. That was definitely not a cabin, more like a 'lake house', aka cottage. Many cottages are multimillion dollar mansions. Perhaps the Lake House was bigger than a cabin, but it definitely did not strike me as a mansion. None of it helped me understand the power Julia's father held over her life during the earlier part of the series where he seemed to be pressuring her to socialize with the Canadian elite, find a an "aristocratic" husband, and not be a mere police coroner. I definitely expected Julia's family to be something more like the Pendricks. No, it wasn't a mansion, and I wasn't inferring it was, but it wasn't a cabin either. I didn't think they were supposed to be aristocratic, just wealthy and it never did say whether it was old money or not but they were definitely up there in the social classes as they were members of the King's Rowing Club. Julia was obviously used to hobnobbing with the social elite but she made it clear in Still Waters that she found the whole 'country club scene' tiresome. She doesn't put on airs and graces unless she has to and is obviously comfortable with the lower classes. Perhaps she just didn't like what she saw in her own social class and preferred to be around 'normal' people. That in itself could perhaps cause a rift with her father if he thought she should be a genteel lady and marry. I would have thought him more progressive than that though if he accepted Ruby's occupation. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 4, 2015 16:47:25 GMT
No, it wasn't a mansion, and I wasn't inferring it was, but it wasn't a cabin either. I didn't think they were supposed to be aristocratic, just wealthy and it never did say whether it was old money or not but they were definitely up there in the social classes as they were members of the King's Rowing Club. Julia was obviously used to hobnobbing with the social elite but she made it clear in Still Waters that she found the whole 'country club scene' tiresome. She doesn't put on airs and graces unless she has to and is obviously comfortable with the lower classes. Perhaps she just didn't like what she saw in her own social class and preferred to be around 'normal' people. That in itself could perhaps cause a rift with her father if he thought she should be a genteel lady and marry. I would have thought him more progressive than that though if he accepted Ruby's occupation. The seeming extremity of the rift with her father is why I always assumed Julia came from a much higher social class than she appeared to be on MM. And she appears to have a lot of money now that she hid from William! I don't think all of it came from Darcy. It was more apparent in Ruby's lifestyle as she hung out with Rajas in India. |
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Post by lea on Aug 4, 2015 19:16:22 GMT
No, it wasn't a mansion, and I wasn't inferring it was, but it wasn't a cabin either. I didn't think they were supposed to be aristocratic, just wealthy and it never did say whether it was old money or not but they were definitely up there in the social classes as they were members of the King's Rowing Club. Julia was obviously used to hobnobbing with the social elite but she made it clear in Still Waters that she found the whole 'country club scene' tiresome. She doesn't put on airs and graces unless she has to and is obviously comfortable with the lower classes. Perhaps she just didn't like what she saw in her own social class and preferred to be around 'normal' people. That in itself could perhaps cause a rift with her father if he thought she should be a genteel lady and marry. I would have thought him more progressive than that though if he accepted Ruby's occupation. The seeming extremity of the rift with her father is why I always assumed Julia came from a much higher social class than she appeared to be on MM. And she appears to have a lot of money now that she hid from William! I don't think all of it came from Darcy. It was more apparent in Ruby's lifestyle as she hung out with Rajas in India. I feel like the writing leaves her social status somewhat ambiguous. Julia's father spent a fair amount of time with the Pendricks before Sally left James with nothing, Ruby spent time with Rajas, and yet I feel when we did see her father his home seemed much more humble than I would have thought. (Perhaps he had several...?) Also, when Ruby confronts Julia about William in this ep they are outside what I think I remember to be a home, was it Julia's? I can't remember without going back and looking. (I will go back and see when I get a chance unless someone knows off the top of their head) |
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I wonder where it is, lol.
