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Post by hannikan on May 10, 2012 19:51:45 GMT
The photos of Dr. Grace are all part of the promos for S5. Since S5 has not aired in Canada yet and the CBC will be reairing S5 before it shows S6, it makes sense that she's on there. I don't think it necessarily means she's here to stay but she certainly could be. It does bother me that Dr. Grace was dropped in unbelievably and there are definitely people that still hold a torch for William and Anna. I think the writers will want to draw the Black Hand plot out more. Esp. since William made the deal with Falcone. There's room to do a lot more with that. Julia is far more interesting to watch in the morgue than Emily. I agree with whomever said that Emily was supposed to make us miss Julia in the morgue and in William's life in general. The chemistry was purposely bad for that effect. So I don't know where they will go with her if she stays except to work along side George. I don't think that will be much better. I suppose they are both awkward in their own way so it could be funny but so far it hasn't been.
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Post by murdochic on May 10, 2012 20:06:22 GMT
The deal with Falcone was broken when he thought Anna died, he said that himself. That part was resolved. That is precisely why they shouldn't resurrect the storyline, they all got out of the mess so putting them back in it for a third time would be tedious. The show needs to move on. It isn't even that interesting a storyline so to drag it out for three series is a bit much. I for one wouldn't want to see it again.
People still carrying a torch for W/A are gluttons for punishment. Could a character blatantly be more of substitute love interest? I don't personally like Anna, because the character annoys me on a personality level. But even I think she deserves better than for William to disappoint her for a fourth time. She needs to get some self respect and needs to find a man who actually loves her. To keep sniffing after William even when she knows he'll never feel for her, and give her what she wants is sad to watch. I actually pitied her in the two parter because I could see she will never get what she needs from him, he's not the man she longs for him to be. She wants an adventurous guy who is madly in love with her. It's not William.
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Post by barbarama on May 10, 2012 21:24:04 GMT
Actually Hannikan you are right I didn't think about that, considering that Dr.Grace has been in all the episodes of season 5 and that CBC will show that season in the fall that would make sense that she is here even if she might not be in season 6, although considering that filming starts in 2 weeks it would be really unfair for the actress to promote the show and not being part of it in the weeks to come (it wouldn't be a first though and I have heard worst stories regarding the business of entertainment  ) |
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Post by petunia on May 10, 2012 22:23:30 GMT
I now actually have hope for S6. With CBC only starting to broadcast it after Christmas means that the showrunner is reading all of our comments about S5 and is hopefuly taking them into account for S6. With the deadline moving from September to December for S6, changes could be made....
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Post by hannikan on May 10, 2012 23:03:24 GMT
It's always funny to me to read people's vitriolic feelings for Anna or for Julia, which are ironically kind of similar. Each side thinks either Anne or Julia force William to be different than himself. I think they both challenge him in different ways. I can't imagine how anyone could dislike either of them, regardless who you want William to be with. I think they are both lovely characters and make the show interesting. I am definitely a fan of William and Julia together and want them to work things out but they would never have kept them happily together throughout an entire run of a show. That would be dull. They have to create obstacles for their relationship; preferably interesting obstacles. They've already had other love interests for William, but Anna proved to have the most chemistry with him. So it doesn't surprise me that they've brought her back twice now. It's precisely that the deal was broken that the story with the Black Hand is not over. They are not going to leave William alone now even though Falcone was released for a "crime" that William committed (Anna's faked death). Falcone will figure out that Anna's death was staged (if he doesn't already) and know that his release was meaningless and not a true favor. It's not going to stop the Black Hand from going after Anna, and William for protecting her. You can't just drop that now. I agree that it would be kind of sad for Georgina Reilly for them to promote her part in the show and then yank her role in the S5 finale. If she does stick around in S6, I hope Ruby reappears to give her a run for her money with George.  |
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Post by murdochic on May 11, 2012 0:52:44 GMT
I honestly don't dislike Anna because of W/J. I didn't mind Enid, and thought she was quite sweet. I also quite liked Ettie in the tv movies, who was a much bigger threat to W/J than Anna ever was. Okay, I didn't think any of them should have been with Murdoch as from the start it's been clear W/J are soulmates. But I liked the women as people. I find Anna annoying as a person, I did from her first appearence in S3. She's too full on and it's irritating. I also think she's too pushy, like Emily only x10. I can only take her in small doses, and after she's been in three series in a row, enough is enough. How many times do we need to see her being rejected. I am bored of that storyline being recycled every series, it needs to be left as it is. Especially as S5 was meant to be the last, that means her exit was how the writers intended for it to be ended permantantly. Why backtrack on that in S6? It's not like she is the love of William's life or even close to it.
I don't really agree the Blackhand storyline needs continuing. That is another storyline the show wrote as finished, it wasn't intended to be continued. It got all the closure that was possible for the situation. It's boring with them having to keep saving Anna when she won't listen to reason. She would have deserved to get herself killed with her stupid recklessness. She was safe in the witness protection but she just had to come back to Toronto to tempt fate. If she tempted fate again it would be insane. If they do decide to resurrect the Blackhand in S6 they shouldn't include Anna, she's safe so leave her that way. Have any revenge be directed at William, Julia and maybe Emily. As I think the pathologist had to have been in on it. So those three should be the target next time. If there is one.
I don't understand people who think Julia doesn't want William to be himself. She respects his career and religion mean a lot to him. The only thing Julia ever wanted differently from William was for him to be more honest about his feelings. Whereas Anna wanted him to give up his entire life to go traveling with her, she couldn't understand what his career meant to him. That is the difference between Julia and Anna, one wants him to be who he is which includes letting his feeling out as she knows he'd be happier. The other wants him to be someone she naively thinks he could be. I don't think Anna would even be in love with him if she hadn't met him when he had amnesia and was a different person. That's who she's really in love with - memory loss William. The real day-to-day William doesn't seem to be enough for her, she wants more excitement. And as much as I love Murdoch he is not an exciting man. She's in love with a man who never really exsisted.
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Post by akarana on May 16, 2012 7:15:07 GMT
I have to say I thought Anna had come back last week, because there were two or three scenes when one saw the back of a womans head with blonde curls and then she was gone. At first it was when Julia came to William to ask him how he was at the station. There the blonde woman was cut in between the scene in a weird way. She was there and then she was suddenly gone wen she saw Julia in Williams office. The same thing happened later on. So at first I wondered if it was Anna, then I considered her being the villain and wondered with blonde women William had upset. Anyone else noticed her?
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Post by hannikan on May 16, 2012 19:23:25 GMT
Yeah, I don't find Anna pushy actually. I think she suggested traveling to William because she didn't think he was happy in Toronto without Julia. I think she thought the change of scenery might do him good. But she certainly wouldn't have forced him to go. But I agree with you about Julia's motivations. I don't see what people are saying when they say that Julia looks goo-goo eyed either. Helene Joy is a very good actress and uses her eyes in the same way Yannick does to express emotion. The same way Lisa Faulkner does, too. I think people see what they want to in characters they like or dislike, amplifying attributes negatively or positively. Just like we do with real people in our lives. While I felt badly for Enid, I didn't really like her. She was very intense and she got this scary look in her eye when she was upset. It made her off putting. I found her a bit pushy actually but she did have a reason to be since she had a son to consider. I found William's relationship with Alwyn far more touching than his relationship with Enid.
The blond woman you're thinking of was James Gillies dressed as a woman. At first I thought it was some female accomplice but it was actually him. You saw the wig, the red shawl and the green dress he wore on the bed when William found him. He wore the outfit/wig/make up and disguised his name when he bought the dolls as Gillian James, too. I also thought the hair looked like Anna in S3. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same wig she wore then. LOL!
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Post by catymurdoch on May 16, 2012 22:39:17 GMT
I agree too that if the black hand reappears in s6, it should be directed towards William and Julia as they both helped Anna to escape by faking her death. I don't think Anna should reappear. Her name could be mentionned obviously and either we know she is safe or not but I think it would be interesting perhaps!! to see an episode regarding the black hand again but only focused on William and Julia because they are accomplice. I could do without that storyline being resurrected though and would prefer to see a new storyline or even see Gillis back with more threat in his pocket but I 'd rather see another villain back from ealier season then if they have to bring back somebody. I would prefer to see brand new crimes to b honest and William as a great detective with profiler Julia working with him side by side in almost every scenes to compensate for the lack of Doctor Ogden in season 5. Any spoilers anywhere about next week episode with the travelling machine ? If anyone has some, could u please send me a private message? Thank u in advance  |
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Post by hannikan on May 16, 2012 23:24:51 GMT
Oh, I'm sure Gillies will be back. They've made that pretty obvious that that is likely. Of course, it also looked like Sally Pendrick/Hubbard would be back, too. I really hope she is in S6. If she teamed up with Gillies, that would be a super challenge for William. I hope James would be involved in helping him track her down.
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Post by catymurdoch on May 18, 2012 23:32:32 GMT
LOL Hannikan, Sally and Gillies! That would be a blast. I wonder how they would meet though! I mean Gillies is pretty bad. He kills for pleasure but I don't think Sally kills for pleasure or does she!!! Anyway, I would love to see Pendrick because he is very intelligent and he got blamed to many times. I think he needs to show up and really assist William and Julia into the investigation next time and then yes perhaps try to catch his naughty wife and put her in jail for a few years. Hahaha. That will teach her a lesson to cherish what she had and lost. |
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Post by hannikan on May 19, 2012 0:15:42 GMT
Yeah, I think they'd probably spread them out since they are both such dramatic characters. Each wouldn't want the other to steal their limelight. Their motives are quite different. Gillies is more of a psychopath who kills for sport while Sally is more of a mercenary who kills for profit.
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Post by murdochic on May 22, 2012 22:39:23 GMT
While the S5 ending was would have been an amazing ending to the show. They did leave things in a way that they can continue things in S6.
- They have Julia's new role as a profiler working with the police.
- William and Julia being a proper couple, and how they deal with the issues of that. Divorce/widowhood, marriage and children.
- George and Emily aren't together yet so they can go back and forth with that. They can take over the W/J back and forth.
- The Chief Constable is still being a pain so they can continue him being a thorn in the side of the characters.
- They have old criminals they can bring back.
S6 will be different with Julia's role being even more different than this series. And us finally getting to see W/J as a real relationship, and not one being kept apart. I can't say I am excited about G/E but you can't have everything. I still think S6 has the potential to be good, so much better that S5.
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Post by catymurdoch on May 22, 2012 22:46:04 GMT
Season 6 will be very good if Helen Joy is back full time in the role of Julia. |
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Post by murdochic on May 22, 2012 23:00:36 GMT
The way S5 ended there's no way Julia can't be back fulltime, or almost fulltime. As William's partner and a profiler in the station they can't have her missing for over half the series like they did in this current one. They'll just have to work out filming schedules with Helene, and I doubt she'll be unavailable two years in the row. She doesn't have any other tv shows lined up.
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