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Post by snacky on Jul 22, 2015 20:48:15 GMT
I don't think Julia felt like a spinster or started husband-hunting until William started stringing her along. Then she started to question her value on the marriage market and feel her biological clock ticking (even though she couldn't have children). And Ruby was making her feel like a frumpy old maid. She needed to feel desirable. I don't think William was stringing her along. As usual he needed a push and her leaving was just that, unfortunately just a little too late. I do think Ruby made her feel like a frumpy old maid though. William may not have been intentionally stringing her along, but that was the affect from her point of view. During the Tesla Effect, she was obviously asking him if he would make a commitment if she couldn't have children: and they had been dating for a while without him making any sort of commitment. She shouldn't have had to be the one to bring it up. That wasn't very Victorian and a very awkward situation. That certainly must have doubled-down on the frumpy old maid feelings, especially when William confirmed her fears and "didn't know what to say". |
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Post by snacky on Jul 22, 2015 20:54:40 GMT
As far as complexity goes S2-4 were definitely the best. You could read into them almost anything you want. S5 was a bit of a bust but I understand why given the situation the writers found themselves in. Despite that it did have some good episodes just not very complex. When Julia left Darcy it was pretty obvious what was going to eventually happen and again complexity went out the window until the end of S8. Perhaps some could say there was some given we didn't see much of the marriage so you could read into it that there was a problem. I just assume the writers forgot about it. Too bad, it would have been a great time to explore a more intimate relationship (without sexual content of course). I guess we'll see what S9 brings but as far as the relationship goes there's not much to explore, we know he's not a virgin now so nothing to speculate on there. I used to think production values went up after Season 5 while writing quality went down (though FallenBelle has pointed out there may have just been less time for writing because 5-10 minutes got cut off from the show time). But now that Lea pointed out the consistency in the memory colors and you have pointed out the "roughness" of the previous production (I think of it as "grunge"), I think perhaps there was some complexity conveyed through directing as well. Perhaps there was more symbolism that was transmitted at a subconscious level. There was also a lot of acted/story symbolism - one of the things I've always LOVED about MM. But perhaps there were even more clever things done with color and framing that we're not even aware of. I think of seasons after 5 as more polished, but perhaps that involved some sort of "take away" since they don't seem as deep? |
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Post by snacky on Jul 22, 2015 20:58:20 GMT
From my historical reading, it seems to me that Victorians had practices that could get very intimate without going all the way, as it were. So William could still go into the marriage without having slept with Julia (perhaps he slept with Liza before she died), but still sexually comfortable with her - as Julia obviously conspired to make so - and that's why he was rolling his eyes at Brackenreid. I actually have to agree with this and this is the reason I thought he was still a virgin whilst still being able to fool around. I'm still on the fence, just teetering heavily towards not a virgin. I'm pretty settled on "not a virgin" in general but never went all the way with Julia until after Darcy's death. |
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Jan 30, 2013 21:44:55 GMT
Jan 30, 2013 21:44:55 GMT