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Post by hannikan on Mar 4, 2013 1:32:17 GMT
It won't permanently, for sure. If it does break them up, it will be briefly.
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Mar 4, 2013 3:05:23 GMT
There is a fight coming up so maybe this is the episode for it? I wonder if Julia starts it because of her fantasy (if it is really hers. Just predicting here. But if it is real that could start a fight too).
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Post by hannikan on Mar 5, 2013 9:48:53 GMT
Wow, that was quite an episode! At first I thought the actress who played Eva was the same one who played Clara Thorn in Downstairs, Upstairs. She wasn't. I wasn't surprised that Darcy is trying to keep William and Julia from being together although it's surprising that he agreed to letting them be together earlier. I guess, it was spending time with Julia again that prompted the change. I guess this is him fighting for her in the extreme as he threatened in The Kissing Bandit in S4. I liked the case, it reminded me a little of Bloodlust with the girl being very forward in pursing William. She was also a lot like Sally Pendrick. I wonder if she'll return. The filming in this one was good. I liked the multiple Murdochs when he was looking for evidence in the stock room. I heard Eaton's was bought out by Sears, which isn't doing very well lately. I thought the scene with Julia's blowing off steam by doing some archery was funny. George was also pretty funny in this one. Julia explaining Eva's method of manipulation was funny, too.
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Post by murdochic on Mar 5, 2013 11:25:42 GMT
Wow, that was quite an episode! At first I thought the actress who played Eva was the same one who played Clara Thorn in Downstairs, Upstairs. She wasn't. I wasn't surprised that Darcy is trying to keep William and Julia from being together although it's surprising that he agreed to letting them be together earlier. I guess, it was spending time with Julia again that prompted the change. I guess this is him fighting for her in the extreme as he threatened in The Kissing Bandit in S4. I liked the case, it reminded me a little of Bloodlust with the girl being very forward in pursing William. She was also a lot like Sally Pendrick. I wonder if she'll return. The filming in this one was good. I liked the multiple Murdochs when he was looking for evidence in the stock room. I heard Eaton's was bought out by Sears, which isn't doing very well lately. I thought the scene with Julia's blowing off steam by doing some archery was funny. George was also pretty funny in this one. Julia explaining Eva's method of manipulation was funny, too. I don't care about Darcy he stands no chance. Julia will just tell him to get lost. Which would explain future events. So the kiss was nothing? the girl just jumped him or was it a fantasy? I'm still not worried by Darcy or any other women. W/J are staying together this time, that's clear. |
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Post by nicole on Mar 5, 2013 11:57:44 GMT
The scenario of the end of the season is set up in this episode. Julia is very angry against her husband and she is very impressive with her bow and the arrows ! I wonder if he is going to have a confrontation between Darcy and William . That could be interessant...
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Mar 5, 2013 16:31:27 GMT
I think the kissing scene was William's dream and that was Julia's vision of things. I don't know. >.<
I really liked that episode, though! One of my season six top picks so far! Additionally, it was awesome talking to the Eaton's girls on twitter before and after the episode aired!
Darcy of course complicated things yet again. I'm surprised at Julia's archery skills! Don't get in the way of her, Darcy!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Mar 5, 2013 20:26:52 GMT
Much better episode than last week! It would have been even better if CBC's previews weren't quite so spoilerish. >.<
But anyway, some funny moments, especially with George and the inspector. Fairly interesting case. If I hadn't known about the kiss beforehand, I maybe wouldn't have hated/suspected Eva the entire time! I'm glad she didn't turn out to be some psycho stalker of his that killed the store manager in order to seduce him.
So we can expect more Darcy interfering I guess. He's acting like a spoiled brat who won't let the other kids play with his toys even though he's bored with them. If he don't change his mind, he's dead. I guarantee it.
Nice ending for Jilliam but as others have said, it's like they are just good friends at this point. I want to see them get fiery with passion again, even if only briefly. Cuz if they're gonna be this dull when they do get together it's gonna suck. :/
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Post by barbarama on Mar 5, 2013 20:30:46 GMT
Ok so now that I have seen the episode I can finally comment, it was interesting to read your previous posts and see what you all thought it might be before seeing the episode. Now going back again, the director of this one is Cal Coons and the episodes he's directed or written are usually my favorite and this one did not disappoint. He really has a way of getting the characters and the show. The scene with the multiple William searching for clue when we only see George staying in 1 spot, priceless. The look William has while watching Julia leaving the morgue. All of these moments is what creates a great episode for me. Seeing the recreation of a part of the Eaton centre was unbelievable. The dresses, furnitures...all the attention to details was just amazing to watch and after only a few seconds I was taken by that story. However I think the episode was more focused into the private life of the main characters than an intricate plot as I knew from the beginning that Eva/aka "wanton woman"  was involved in the killing of the manager I just didn't know what was her exact role; the other girl though I admit I didn't know why she killed that young man until well, it was mentioned. I for one I'm glad it was just a fantasy (because that trailer got me worried for an entire week) and William is human after all, I think that only getting to play dominoes with Julia or kissing her might not be enough for him not to become frustrated or flustered at the site of a beautiful woman. However even before that "scene" was shown when I saw who was that Eva I wasn't worried at all, she is the total opposite of what William likes. Now regarding Darcy, boy oh boy I didn't like him in this scene, his reaction was just so childish. I understand that he's still in love with his wife but why fight for her only now, why not at the beginning, or even when the annulment didn't work...; he knew that Julia & William were courting for months and now just because of one formal dinner with Julia he wants her back? The problem is not really there it's what he said "If I can't have you as my wife so can't he", and I think it is also because his pride has been hurt by her rejection and what he red about their "night" together. Does he really think she's going to resign herself and go back to him at some point? Obviously he had no idea who was Julia when he married her. That archery scene was just hysterical, I didn't expect at all for Julia to lash out her frustrations shouting arrows and William seemed a little bit scared I think that's why he didn't react much to the "we should live together" part, he understood that Julia was angry and steaming at the moment so even discussing that point might have been a bit dangerous for him at the time; although I have to admit that him fleeing like that because he figured out something about the weapon was again in my opinion a case of avoidance. The scene overall I loved, I laughed so much watching it. What did cracked me up though was George taking credits for William's idea while talking to Brackenreid. I was like he is shameless but I couldn't help laughing. The end was very sweet as well, William does have principle and Julia saying the she loves him all the more for that was nice to watch. I know that whatever happens they will stick together no matter how many Darcys or Evas there are in the world. I think this one is definitely my 2nd favorite after "Murdoch au Naturel". So that was my looonnggg take on this episode |
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Post by barbarama on Mar 5, 2013 20:36:08 GMT
you right though Pedantic Pedestrian, more passion and heat would be nice to watch; I do not think they are dull but I think they also really have the "hots" for each other and somehow if that could be shown more on screen that would be awesome!!!
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Post by murdochic on Mar 5, 2013 21:09:36 GMT
you right though Pedantic Pedestrian, more passion and heat would be nice to watch; I do not think they are dull but I think they also really have the "hots" for each other and somehow if that could be shown more on screen that would be awesome!!! I think this series has done a good job showing their love and chemistry. They can't be all over each other because Julia is still married and William's religious principles mean he won't commit adultery, so kisses is as far as he'll let things go. Julia would be all over him given the chance but she doesn't want to push William into being uncomfortable. |
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Post by barbarama on Mar 5, 2013 21:17:03 GMT
True murdochic it makes complete sense given their situation that they can't be as impetuous as they would like (if I was in Julia's place I would also have trouble to restrain throwing myself into William's arms ) Let's compromise then because the reality can't let them do that, bring back the "steamy dream sequences" again!!! |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 5, 2013 21:56:17 GMT
I think it will be steamy in the finale, but I like the more sweet moments, too. There has been plenty of passion in their longing to be together/married, too. I don't think Darcy has any real hope that Julia still loves him after he tried to caress her and she drew away. He's just being vindictive at this point. He wants to punish them and ruin their chance at happiness because he's not happy. I'm not surprised given his reaction in The Kissing Bandit to the fact that they'd had a relationship in the past. He was seething with jealousy there, though he is a very cool customer, so he hid it well. I doubt the episodes to come will have anything to do with archery. That was just Julia blowing off steam. I also think William knew that Julia wasn't really serious about living together, she was suggesting it in a moment of extreme frustration. She knew he wouldn't do that, so it wasn't a real suggestion.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Mar 6, 2013 2:35:33 GMT
Okay I don't find them dull exactly but I just find something lacking in some of their interactions lately. I know they have all these constraints, be it the time period or the fact that she's married or both, but I guess I'm becoming as frustrated as they must certainly be by this point.
And yes, I agree with most of what you said Hannikan. I just hope Darcy's "fighting in the extreme" will not come into play anymore than it already has.
This is a totally random question but does anyone know if the field they are in at the end is the same one that George and his mother were in in season 2? I'm not sure why I care so much but for some reason I really want to know.
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Post by barbarama on Mar 6, 2013 4:53:41 GMT
Good point Hannikan, I know at that point Darcy is just vindictive but if I had some sympathy for him before it's gone now. I doubt also that we will see the archery again but it was such a cool part, I really enjoyed that scene  ok Pedantic Pedestrian, I won't let you get crazy with not knowing. in my opinion it's the same field indeed |
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Post by murdochic on Mar 6, 2013 14:03:42 GMT
I liked W/J didn't get jealous of Eva and Darcy. In the past they would have gotten over things like that but they are so secure in each others feelings now. They don't feel threatened by third parties or outside forces. I also liked that Julia was amused by Williams subconscious attraction to Eva so she could tease him over it. Their relationship isn't any less interesting this series, it's just matured. The almost married behaviour they show is refreshing after five series of obstacles of one kind or another. This is the first series where I don't worry that their relationship will be broken up, they feel settled at last.
Darcy is just being a spoiled brat. It was initially his decision to let Julia go. He knows she only wants William, so it's petty to change his mind because he's got a bruised ego. I don't think his actions are about loving her, he doesn't want to lose. I don't have any sympathy for anything that will happen to him. His own childish actions will cause his troubles.
Nice to finally see Emily and Julia have a scene. Those have been seriously lacking this series, I wish they'd start interacting more again. I always liked their dynamic. I also like Brackenreid's dynamic with the girls, we need more of that. I have a feeling we'll be seeing Eva again, that won't be the last crime she's involved in.
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was involved in the killing of the manager I just didn't know what was her exact role; the other girl though I admit I didn't know why she killed that young man until well, it was mentioned.
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