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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 7, 2013 3:06:47 GMT
A series of violent drowning deaths of university-educated unmarried career women leads Murdoch to suspect sexist and racist motives.
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Mar 10, 2013 22:48:50 GMT
Spoilers; do not read if you don't want to know.
Murdoch and Crabtree attend the scene of a drowning. The victim was found by aspiring Olympian Ralph Bridgewater, an old friend of Dr. Grace's from the Toronto Athletic Club.
Crabtree's jealousy shows when he enquires to Dr. Grace about Bridgewater, and she admits is appearance is bringing back her competitive streak. With the Paris Olympics on her mind, Dr Grace plans to return to playing croquet.
Yannick Bisson's father also guest stars in this episode
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Post by hannikan on Mar 13, 2013 3:22:35 GMT
I'm glad the Olympics will play a role in an episode this season! I'm kind of thinking that this plot will be too close to Still Waters though. Hopefully not. I guess the next episode is where this photo is from:  |
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Mar 16, 2013 0:36:04 GMT
Yes, that picture is from this episode. I watched the preview today and it seemed pretty interesting. It was only Emily Grace in it, so the plot is obviously very focused on her. At least it will be besides her spiritual / morgue persona.
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Post by lmcg on Mar 16, 2013 17:08:48 GMT
i'm excited for this one!!
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Post by hannikan on Mar 17, 2013 23:06:55 GMT
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Post by iheartmurdoch on Mar 19, 2013 3:18:48 GMT
Loved it. Really interesting how everyone was subject to discrimination but no one thought their own prejudices were affecting others the same way. And no different really than it is today. One of the thinking episodes. And I had no idea who did it.
And Emily was awesome. Love her even more now.
Probably in my top 5 of the season so far.
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Post by barbarama on Mar 19, 2013 16:51:29 GMT
I also really liked that episode the plot was so well done because I couldn't even imagine who was the murderer or his motives. I alternate between despising him as he killed more women to cover his tracks and feeling sorry for him being blackmailed like this as he was trying to protect his family. I'm against any crime of course but I found the first victim really hard to like, she also killed someone (by accident of course) but she had no problem threatening her boss to have a good story as a reporter. The storyline about racism and intolerance was very well done, I found it sad that women who could access education facing prejudices themselves could be so intolerant against people from another race but that was the society at the time.
I actually like the parts with George and Emily and the sceneries at the club were really beautiful to watch with all the costumes, it was just breathtaking.
As for what we saw from William & Julia (plus the trailer for next week episode which I won't mention here), come on William stop being so obtuse, that is NOT a coincidence that freaking Darcy bought a house 3 blocks from Julia. I understood that she was annoyed by his reaction!!!
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Post by stephen on Mar 19, 2013 17:25:23 GMT
I would like to offer a counter to this episode:
I have followed this series from the start, the ups and downs and constant time changes on City but have stuck with it happily as I think it is one of the best shows on TV. However lately I have noticed an alarming trend of lazy writing creeping into the show. Case in point last nights episode.
1. The role of the pens was never fully explained?
2. How in the world did he drown 2 other women and then drag the bodies to the places they found them without being scene or caught?
3. For a 'poor farm girl' as Dr Grace was supposed to be (quote from her ex fiance in the hockey story) she certainly knows and did move in some very respectable circles, right up there with Dr. Ogden who does have money.
4. The old canard of your ex moving in down the street from you as Darcy is doing to Julia, is just a very lazy plot device to turn him into the villain and use that as a plot to get him out of the way so they can marry. Just write him out gracefully its classier and just not hackneyed as this is going about.
5. One of the victims moved from Rimouski to Toronto to try and further her medical studies. That makes no sense as U of T didn't start accepting women to Med School until 1912
6. Why would a person(the clerk in the Pen Store) be working there if as he said he went to University with one of the women? Even if he dropped out he'd have a better job than that.
Just my opinion but it seems like the wrtiers painted themselves into a corner and just picked a person at random to be the murderer. Here's hoping this is just a blip and it gets back to well written plot driven stories. On the plus side we now know George has another aunt, Begonia, and Dr. Grace made a choice with one smash of a mallet.
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Post by lmcg on Mar 19, 2013 18:24:47 GMT
In response to Stephen:
I don't think it was lazily written. It was quite mysterious actually, and all made sense to me.
1 - the pens linked Sophia Lucas to the pen clerk, and that's how they found where she was hiding - it connected him to the other girls as well and made him look like the killer and as though she was in imminent danger. I don't think they needed to spell that out any more than they did.
2 - not a bad question but it didn't bother me.
3 - Emily was a member of the club because Jerome was a member. She says this to George in the morgue. Then she broke up with him and she couldn't go back to the club. So that was explained perfectly well.
4 - Maybe but I don't personally care much for Darcy and just want him to be gone already
5 - I think they said she couldn't get into medical school in Quebec so she came to Toronto. To me this meant that she wanted to be a doctor but couldn't get in to medical school. And she went to St. Hilda's, not UofT.
6 - Possibly, but not a big deal to me. He may have been related to the pen shop owner. And not everyone who went to university was super wealthy or graduated. Just middle class and above. Even Anne of Green Gables went to university and she was just a poor farm girl, who had to work after.
I think you could make a list like this for every episode, even the earlier seasons, but why spoil the fun? It's the most historically accurate show I've seen on this side of the pond ever, and even if they have to slip a little now and then to make a story work, I still think it's great and enjoy it for what it is.
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Post by stephen on Mar 19, 2013 18:50:45 GMT
Points taken except Emily said she didn't feel welcome at the club, not that she couldn't go back.
If you wanted to be a doctor in Canada at this time you had to go to the states, applying anywhere else in Canada was a waste if you were a women. So even if you decided not to become a doctor why come all the way to Toronto from Rimouski where most likely you would at that time only speak French to go to school in Toronto when you could have gone to university in Quebec. That only makes sense.
I enjoy it for what is is as well, but I'm really worried its going to slip into easy plot lines like so many shows and not the brilliant show it has been so far.
I agree with you on Darcy, just get rid of him, going down this road is much to like the psycho from Uof T (again) that kidnapped Julia.
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Post by hannikan on Mar 19, 2013 21:10:17 GMT
"She did not feel welcome" was Emily's polite way of saying she wasn't allowed to go to the club without her ex-fiancee. He said in Murdoch in Toyland that he had "offered to bring a lowly, working class girl up to his station." It was very clear that without him, she would not have been privy to these privileges.
I would think that since Alvin Storey had money, he hired muscle/thugs to move the bodies. These would be guys who knew how to move the bodies at night so that no one would see them. And if anyone did see them, these guys have no problem knocking them off, too.
I'm off to work so I'll come back with my thoughts on the episode later.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Mar 19, 2013 22:06:51 GMT
Because I'm a nit picker, I have to correct you Hanna, it was Murdoch Night in Canada that Jerome was in. And I've just thought of this but the set of MM is probably where Georgina and Mark originally met and then fell in love. How romantic!  I also didn't have any problems with this ep, not really anyway (there was another easter egg for the webseries and I don't get why it was there). For once this season the murderer wasn't blatantly obvious and I appreciated that. Well, the ghost one I didn't really have a clue either so it's the second ep this season. As long as it all makes sense in the end, and in my book, that means it was well written. |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 19, 2013 22:09:43 GMT
Yeah, that's what I meant. I don't know why I put Toyland. * Brain fart. * And because I'm a nit picker my name is spelled Hannah No, they already were engaged to each other actually. They met on the set of Republic of Doyle when they were both on it. Mark is a close friend of Jonny's. He was a groomsmen in their wedding.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Mar 19, 2013 22:48:39 GMT
Well they met on SOME set anyway. Apparently behind the scenes is where all the magic happens.  Are they close because they are both from NFL? Does everyone know each other there or what?  |
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