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Post by RoseDeVersailles on Apr 1, 2013 18:43:28 GMT
Maybe they will kill both Julia and William. I hope the writers won't do such a thing, but I'm really scared.
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Apr 7, 2013 20:18:01 GMT
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Apr 8, 2013 12:30:03 GMT
*dies because of feels*
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Post by hannikan on Apr 9, 2013 9:31:13 GMT
Very much a nailbiter as they also said in that interview. There were definitely some moments that were romantic though. I'm off to sleep, so I'll ave to give more thoughts tomorrow. Well, today but much later today for me.  |
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Post by petunia on Apr 9, 2013 13:31:50 GMT
Well that was quite an episode. Absolutely loved it. Having said that.... At such a time would family not step in? I realize that bringing Ruby back is impossible as the actress is quite busy these days, but surely her father could have made an appearance. I would have loved a scene between Julia and her father.
There is still one more episode, hopefully he shows us then.
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Post by barbarama on Apr 9, 2013 13:50:55 GMT
I love reading everybody else comments about that amazing episode. I have to admit that I'm still in shock because of it and I was at the verge of crying almost the entire episode (and I rarely cry even watching my favorite show except for the scene at the morgue with William & Julia in "The Tesla Effect" and the last scene in "Voices" between William & his sister). I didn't watched the latest trailers so I was constantly on the edge watching everybody reactions as the evidences were pilling up against Julia and her alibi seemed more and more non-existent. When I first heard her voice with that phone call was I the only one thinking that Gillies might have drugged or hypnotized her, the voice seemed robotic in my opinion? Also that scene where William is in his head and he barely hears George I thought it was done brilliantly. This episode talks about the affair at the Queen's Hotel and brings back the Ava Moon case so everything was linked so perfectly. And Gillies, I can't wait to see next week how William will solve this and I know he will!!! The acting by everyone in this episode was just outstanding, all of them at the top of their game; as other people mentioned we could see different ranges within Julia's emotions and the desperation between her and William was just heartbreaking. I'm going to stop now because it is already a very long post and I could go on and on about this wonderful episode. Best of the season for me so far if not one of the best of the entire show but one of the saddest and scariest for sure.
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Apr 9, 2013 15:34:00 GMT
What a great episode! Probably my favorite so far, but the finale will probably be the best. It was so sad at times though  I don't know how I will last another 6 days! And did anyone else notice that there wasn't a preview for next week last night? I kind of figured it was Gillies right at the beginning, even though I knew he would have something to do with the case beforehand. Micheal Seater was in the opening credits too so if one is really observant they could spot that. Also, he's done the dressing up like a lady and recording fake voices before (Toyland, 511) so that was easy to see as well. It was so sad how even Emily couldn't comfort Julia I was on the verge of tears pretty much the whole hour. It would have been nice for Ruby to be back and have a say on all of this, but whatever. I also found it kind of romantic how Julia and William declared their love for each other in the courtroom. But Julia being taken away just broke my heart  ? I wonder how things will turn out next week. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 9, 2013 15:46:13 GMT
Well, unless her father was in some far away place and couldn't get there in time, he would have shown up. Sooo, basically we're never going to see him. :/ Also annoyed that Ruby wasn't there. Even if the actress is busy, couldn't she have squeezed in time for one short scene? :/
Of course I still loved this episode! I think we all went through the various emotions that Julia and other characters experienced. Which is to say, that was some mighty fine acting!
Something I loved: Murdoch discovering the fingermark and NOT erasing it. I don't know how he had the strength to NOT do this considering the circumstances. Possibly he was thinking back to the Ava Moon case and how that royally screwed up things for him. So even though he might lose Julia again, he STILL left it there. Bravo, sir, bravo!
My theory for the fingermark: those WEREN'T Julia's records! Gillies swapped them out at a previous point in time with Darcy's mistress! Either that or the mark was planted on the bullet casing, but I'm not sure such a thing was possible back then.
In any case, it will be a loooong wait till the finale. But one things for sure, we can expect it to go out with a bang! *cough* proposal? *cough
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Post by RoseDeVersailles on Apr 9, 2013 17:47:03 GMT
My theory for the fingermark: those WEREN'T Julia's records! Gillies swapped them out at a previous point in time with Darcy's mistress! Either that or the mark was planted on the bullet casing, but I'm not sure such a thing was possible back then. That's what I think about the fingermarks. This James Gillies is able to do such a thing, he's an evil. |
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Post by murdochic on Apr 9, 2013 20:24:28 GMT
Poor Julia, Gillies is always trying to get her killed. The telephone call must have been a recording of some kind, which would explain why it was halted. The bullet evidence probably something simple like she touched another bullet in the months previous and Gillies got hold of it.
William should have wiped it clean. Once again his over moral attitude has gotten them into drama. Though Julia won't ever hold it against him because she loves that part of him.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 9, 2013 21:39:15 GMT
Yep I think Gillies recorded her speaking in another conversation (perhaps snuck into her work while she was on the telephone) and then spliced together the words. That's why it would sound halting. it was definitely Julia's voice, not Gillies in a modified tone. That's a good theory on the fingerprint CC, yeah. I didn't think of it being weird that her father didn't try to help her, but yes, that is strange. He must be away, but maybe he will come rushing home when he gets word and he'll be in the finale. I hope so! Ruby is also probably far away. I doubt she'll show up though. Julia's refusal to lie was the complement to William's refusal to wipe the bullet casing clean. They both take the moral high ground even when it is tragic to do so. The acting was stellar. I look forward to watching it again even though it was so sad. The romantic declarations of love were great. I liked seeing George struggle with the case, too. And Emily. And Thomas yelling at Giles was awesome!  I have to share this because it's strange and funny at the same time. Yep, it was so great it affected my dreams last night. I dreamed that my husband and I were accused of murder. They didn't believe his story and sentenced him to life in prison. Everything was in the modern day and very vivid. I often have dreams that are impacted by things I see though. And my dreams tend to be very vivid. I woke up in the middle of this one all upset and couldn't go back to sleep. When I did fall back to sleep, I still keep dreaming the rest of the same dream "plot." *sigh* Darn you, Murdoch!! |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 9, 2013 23:04:13 GMT
I've had similar ideas about the phone call too. I'm not sure when she would have had occasion to say 'chilling champagne' though. :/ But while he was bugging her home or work or both, he could have stolen something with her prints.
Barb had another good theory I think, which was that Gillies had hypnotized Julia! Which means that she did make that phone call, did show up to Darcy's house, did touch the bullet, and possibly even killed him, unknowingly of course. The reason why there is no record of the husband and wife is NOT because they used fake aliases but rather because they really never existed! They were just suggestions made to her while under her deep hypnosis. So she never was in Port Credit, which is how she was at his house! But then if all of this is true, it would be next to impossible to prove Julia's innocence without a full confession from Gillies.
Well, what is Gillies mantra? Don't over think things or something? (He taunted Murdoch in Toyland saying something or other about this). So whatever Occam's razor would be in this instance is probably the answer. Is it more likely that Julia was hypnotized to frame herself, or is it more likely that Gillies orchestrated a bunch of players to help him out in this regard?
I think the answers pretty clear.
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Post by murdochic on Apr 10, 2013 0:02:33 GMT
I've had similar ideas about the phone call too. I'm not sure when she would have had occasion to say 'chilling champagne' though. :/ But while he was bugging her home or work or both, he could have stolen something with her prints. Barb had another good theory I think, which was that Gillies had hypnotized Julia! Which means that she did make that phone call, did show up to Darcy's house, did touch the bullet, and possibly even killed him, unknowingly of course. The reason why there is no record of the husband and wife is NOT because they used fake aliases but rather because they really never existed! They were just suggestions made to her while under her deep hypnosis. So she never was in Port Credit, which is how she was at his house! But then if all of this is true, it would be next to impossible to prove Julia's innocence without a full confession from Gillies. Well, what is Gillies mantra? Don't over think things or something? (He taunted Murdoch in Toyland saying something or other about this). So whatever Occam's razor would be in this instance is probably the answer. Is it more likely that Julia was hypnotized to frame herself, or is it more likely that Gillies orchestrated a bunch of players to help him out in this regard? I think the answers pretty clear. He could well have hypnotized her as the web series did include that so it could of been a hint. But even if she was hypnotized I don't believe she pulled the trigger. |
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Apr 10, 2013 0:47:13 GMT
Hypnotism is a good explanation for the case but it doesn't answer all the questions. And how would Julia let herself get hypnotized in the first place? You'd think she'd be smarter than that.
On imdb Karen Ivany is credited in this episode as a telephone exchange operator, which means that they may look into the phone call that 'Julia' made and possibly track it or get some information from it. Also, Mary Krohnert, who plays Darcy's paramour who appeared in this episode and last, is not credited yet which makes me think she's out of the picture. But I could very well be wrong, and she just hasn't been added yet.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 10, 2013 2:37:55 GMT
Hypnotism is a good explanation for the case but it doesn't answer all the questions. And how would Julia let herself get hypnotized in the first place? You'd think she'd be smarter than that. On imdb Karen Ivany is credited in this episode as a telephone exchange operator, which means that they may look into the phone call that 'Julia' made and possibly track it or get some information from it. Also, Mary Krohnert, who plays Darcy's paramour who appeared in this episode and last, is not credited yet which makes me think she's out of the picture. But I could very well be wrong, and she just hasn't been added yet. Yeah, there's definitely going to be some tracing of the phone call. George knows how to do that. Tess Moffatt was rumored to be in S6, so she could even appear in the finale. I doubt Gillies hypnotized Julia. Sorry, that just sounds really unlikely to me, esp. since Julia is trained in how to hypnotize others as part of her job. I think it's much more likely that Julia's voice on the telephone was done combining the words from multiple conversations. "Chill the champagne" could have been taken from a phone call at home, even from back when Darcy was made head of the hospital in S5. He was already tracking her then. It could have been from any conversation. It could have been from a conversation with William when Darcy originally agreed to the divorce. |
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I don't know how I will last another 6 days! And did anyone else notice that there wasn't a preview for next week last night?
? I wonder how things will turn out next week. 
I have to share this because it's strange and funny at the same time. Yep, it was so great it affected my dreams last night. I dreamed that my husband and I were accused of murder. They didn't believe his story and sentenced him to life in prison. Everything was in the modern day and very vivid. I often have dreams that are impacted by things I see though. And my dreams tend to be very vivid. I woke up in the middle of this one all upset and couldn't go back to sleep. When I did fall back to sleep, I still keep dreaming the rest of the same dream "plot." *sigh* Darn you, Murdoch!! 
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