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Post by barbarama on Apr 11, 2013 18:42:16 GMT
Please please please NO CLIFFHANGER!!! I won't be able to stand it if they do that, the wait would be excruciating!!!!! It is interesting to read everyone's theory about what will happen next. I seriously can't wait for this episode even if I'm sad that it's the season finale, it went way too fast!!!!
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Apr 11, 2013 21:58:52 GMT
If Gillies never in the courtroom, why did other people look around to see what the source of the clapping was?
Also, I've discovered a mysterious picture pertaining to the finale. I know for sure it is in the next episode because the picture on CBC.ca/MurdochMysteries is similar - William behind bars, and a ghostly figure in the background. I posted it on twitter as well, but it's all speculation from here on in. I don't know how to do an image so I'll just link it.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 12, 2013 2:11:30 GMT
I had recently done archival research on Dr. Frederick Banting and when his wife, Marion, had an affair, it was quite a public scandal (and this is Toronto during the 1930s). There was concern about how a divorce would affect his position as a doctor and medical researcher at the University of Toronto. While matters were being settled during the divorce, Dr. Banting was seeing another woman, but there was also quite the concern about anyone knowing about this as it was considered unacceptable while he was still married, so they had to be discreet. I therefore find it hard to believe that Darcy would be walking around with Melanie out in the open, or be seen leaving a hotel at the same time in 1900, considering things were still rather difficult 30 years later. However, the writers are not always historically accurate and may have been a bit sloppy on this part... But had his wife had a publicly known affair before he began his affair? That changes the social perception of Darcy than if he had just started having an affair and Julia was considered "blemish-free" by the public. Julia's tarnished reputation gives Darcy a lot more freedom to behave in a way that would otherwise be more damning for him. I'm not saying there wouldn't be some social fall out for him, too, but far less than for Julia and far less than if he had just started to have an affair without Julia being perceived to have one first. |
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Post by hannikan on Apr 12, 2013 2:19:15 GMT
Oh, that is a weird photo! Who is that ghostly figure? It's not Gillies or Darcy.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 12, 2013 8:15:11 GMT
It definitely cannot be Julia hypnotized (or in any other state) that killed Darcy. This is from the FB MM CBC page: "With his colleague sentenced to hang for murder, Detective Murdoch races to exonerate her and steps into a trap set by the real killer..." They say they will release a teaser for the finale tomorrow on that page. So keep your eyes peeled for it! www.facebook.com/MurdochOnCBC |
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Post by RoseDeVersailles on Apr 12, 2013 8:58:01 GMT
I'm now scared for the end of this season, I've just read something on Facebook.
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Post by murdochic on Apr 12, 2013 10:32:48 GMT
I'm now scared for the end of this season, I've just read something on Facebook. There is no reason to be scared. Murdoch can't die as it's his show and they would never have Julia be hanged even if the actress was leaving. Which as far as we know she's not. There is only one outcome to this storyline and it's Julia alive and exonerated. And with Darcy dead I'm sure W/J will discuss marriage though it's too soon to have a wedding. I am completely sure it will be fine. The nature of the show dictates it. |
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Post by barbarama on Apr 13, 2013 0:18:09 GMT
I'm with you Murdochic, let's stay optimistic even though I'm sure the ulcer in my stomach will get bigger until I finally see this episode  |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Apr 13, 2013 19:14:16 GMT
Reasons why I am waiting until next week to watch this episode followed by "The Murdoch Trap"
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Post by hannikan on Apr 14, 2013 1:24:17 GMT
Yeah, I agree with murdochic. It will work itself out. Julia will not hang. William is in a cage, not jail. The preview for the finale was creepy!! A little like part of Murdoch in Toyland, but even creepier. Gillies is a whack-o!! Here it is if you haven't seen it. It's a clip of the first couple of mins of The Murdoch Trap. www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151311685816266 |
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Post by barbarama on Apr 14, 2013 3:13:30 GMT
Whoa randomkiwibirds you still haven't seen "Crime & Punishment"?  I don't know how you did it but it is indeed a good idea to watch the 2 one after the other because honestly these past few days have been very difficult on me, I can't stop from worrying even though I'm sure that the ending will be an happy one. I hope people won't start talking about the final episode on this thread as I try to avoid spoilers as much as possible :/ |
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Post by petunia on Apr 14, 2013 4:45:44 GMT
I do wonder if William's little Freudian slip when he, Julia, and her lawyer discuss her defence will be referenced again. "If you are innocent..." It seemed to me that until he said that, Julia had started to consider the possibility of pleading self defence. When he said it though, she totally rejected it and it proved to be her downfall. While I totally enjoyed the episode, I will admit to a few disappointments
1. Where is Julia's father? He has been referenced so often in the past. He lives in Toronto. Surely this would be the episode to bring him in.
2. Julia's lawyer. Rich as she is, she could have "Hired an army of lawyer" as it's been quoted so often in past episodes. I thought her lawyer was not very good.
3. The green dress!!!! When did we see that dress this season? If it had been "the blue dress" on the other hand, that would have made sense.
With a 18 episode 7th season, I am wondering if we are heading towards a cliffhanger. Th MM people have been known to film more than one ending for the season finales. I am also wondering what the fallout will be of all this once it is all done. How will Chief Inspector Giles handle being wrong?
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Post by hannikan on Apr 14, 2013 5:32:31 GMT
1. Where is Julia's father? He has been referenced so often in the past. He lives in Toronto. Surely this would be the episode to bring him in.My only explanation for this is that he was not nearby when all this happened. He would have traveled abroad a lot. From the time Julia was arrested to the time of the trial was very short. Probably at most a week. It's possible he is far away and could not get there quickly enough. Remember that traveling in those days took MUCH longer. It would have taken him weeks to get back from Europe. I'm hoping he will be in the finale. 2. Julia's lawyer. Rich as she is, she could have "Hired an army of lawyers" as it's been quoted so often in past episodes. I thought her lawyer was not very good.I think this was the time issue. I don't think she would have had time to do so. Also, Julia didn't seem to think that her chances of losing the case were so strong. She may have been advised to hire an army of lawyers, but rejected the idea because she saw it as unnecessary. 3. The green dress!!!! When did we see that dress this season? If it had been "the blue dress" on the other hand, that would have made sense.I don't think they'd have wanted to ruin a dress they'd want her to actually wear again.  The blue one is probably pretty expensive. I don't think it's an original from the period, but it is quite ornate. Someone went to a lot of work to make it. This green one looked quite cheap and easily made. Yeah, I don't think we've seen her wear it before. Insp Giles has been wrong before and admitted it (in Murdoch Night in Canada and even in Murdoch in Wonderland). He won't relish it, but he'll accept it. He'll probably actually be relieved since Julia still works with the constabulary unofficially. He doesn't actually want her to be the criminal, but once the evidence looks that way, he pursues that line until the end, regardless who it is. If it was his mother accused, he'd probably pursue her to the end if the evidence pointed to her as the murderer.  |
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Post by barbarama on Apr 14, 2013 15:50:53 GMT
Lol Hannikan, indeed Giles would go after his own mother if she would be a suspect in a case !!!! |
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Post by MelodyPond101 on Apr 14, 2013 16:53:17 GMT
This episode was brilliant, and truly I enjoyed it. The court scene at the end had me sniffling a bit, especially when they declared their love for each other in front of everyone. But. I found that Murdoch & co didn't investigate as thoroughly as normal, as if just because it was Julia meant that they shouldn't investigate every nook and cranny. First of all, what about carriage drivers? Wouldn't they know where Julia went and came from, if they drove her? Secondly, did nobody question the height of the tree? George needed a boost from Henry to retrieve the gun, thus proving Julia wouldn't be able to get the gun up there with ease. Yes, she could have thrown it, but would it not be odd to see a grown woman throwing something at a tree, especially if she missed a few times? Surely there would be an easier place to hide the gun... Julia was sort of treated as a fool, as well- she has been working with the constabulary for how long? She would not hide the evidence on her own property or anywhere near her property. Nor would she approach the house in broad daylight, where everyone could see her. It was so obviously a frame-up I was surprised Murdoch didn't notice it. I was intrigued by the theories that Gillies was just Murdoch's subconscious, but after re-watching the episode, I noticed other people turn towards the noise of the clapping, so I'm fairly certain Gillies was there, despite not seeing him in the crowd earlier on in the court. I'm new here, haha, and just wanted to put my thoughts in.  |
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I don't know how you did it but it is indeed a good idea to watch the 2 one after the other because honestly these past few days have been very difficult on me, I can't stop from worrying even though I'm sure that the ending will be an happy one.
The blue one is probably pretty expensive. I don't think it's an original from the period, but it is quite ornate. Someone went to a lot of work to make it. This green one looked quite cheap and easily made. Yeah, I don't think we've seen her wear it before.
